West should be prepared to use force against China, says Kevin Rudd Options

[bear11]

Former Australian PM Kevin Rudd said the West should be prepared to use force against China if it acted irresponsibly, a cable leaked by Wikileaks alleges.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11925438

Why the fu-k China still has only 200 atomic bombs, it need immediately produce at least 10000 bombs, how fu-king arrogant are those white pigs.

And what the fu-k is this about Tibet, Aborigines in Australia live at least 10 years shorter than white people, this white pig should take care of them.


And what is wrong with the communists, China must arm it self to the teeth whit every available weapon of mass destruction, so what if it comes to nuclear war, we all be dead.

Imagine how would they scream if some Chinese official said that we need to invade Australia if China need resources

this makes my blood boil, China arm yourself for the total war, if it comes so we will all be dead , so what, but this white pigs must be touth a lesson.

This post has been edited by bear11: Dec 6 2010, 06:34 AM

[swingdoctor]

These comments outline who really calls the shots in Australia’s so-called parliamentary democracy. Labor leaders must understand “what they need to do”—that is, kowtow on every major strategic and foreign policy issue to Washington. They need to recognise that Australia is an obedient servant of US imperialism, and that its political superstructure must function accordingly.

Trying to score cheap political points here, nothing more then political bull$hit.

Arbib issued a terse statement today, simply outlining that he was an active member of the Australia-American Leadership Dialogue, and “like many members of the federal parliament, have regular discussions about the state of Australian and US politics with members of the US mission and consulate”. Contained here is a fairly clear warning, by Labor’s key backroom operator, to anyone in the government thinking of using the revelations against him. Arbib has helpfully reminded them that he enjoys Washington’s support, and that others are sure to be implicated as more cables are released.

He did issue the statement all the media reported this but the highlighted part is again speculative bull$hit, merely his opinion and a stupid one at that.

The Fairfax press has already named former Labor national secretary and Rudd government cabinet member Bob McMullen and current backbencher Michael Danby as among those named in the WikiLeaks documents. Others likely to be named are starting to come out of the woodwork, in an effort to pre-empt the fallout. Health Minister Nicola Roxon today volunteered that she is likely to be identified, as she “meets with US diplomats from time to time”. Greens’ leader Bob Brown has foreshadowed similar revelations—though he was at pains to point out that he was always “very careful” in his responses, and spoke with diplomats “from all over the world, from Bangladesh to the US to New Zealand, Taiwan and Beijing”.

Again cheap political point scoring, it is normal for politicians to talk to diplomats, it happens in every country around the world. Just because they are talking to them does not imply impropriety as Mr O'Connor is suggesting.

The cables will no doubt reveal similar relationships between Washington and senior Australian media personnel. Editors, journalists, and broadcasters are routinely nurtured through the Australia-American Leadership Dialogue, and other such forums.

Again speculative bull$hit. "No doubt reveal" my arse. He is in no better position then me to speculate what the Wikileaks documents contain.

The excerpted cables also expose the close working relationship between the US government and Australia’s trade unions. The Fairfax press noted that “senior union leaders have privately briefed US officials about how they use their influence over the Labor Party to shape federal government policies”, and cited an August 2009 cable, which stated that the trade unions “continue to play a significant role in the formulation of national policies that can impact the United States”. Discussions between US embassy officials and senior figures in the Australian Workers Union and the National Union of Workers were reported, with one cable declaring that the leaders of the right-wing unions were “dynamic and forward thinking”.

The same cable reportedly described the declining influence of the “left” unions within the Labor Party, a conclusion that was “drawn partly through briefings from CFMEU [Construction, Forestry, Mining and Energy Union] national secretary Dave Noonan and Victorian secretary Bill Oliver”. These two figures—often hailed as great militants by the various middle class pseudo-left outfits—were described by US embassy officials as “capable leaders”

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This is the article O'Connor is referring to http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technolog...1208-18pwj.html, no where in the article does it suggest that any of the union members have behaved inappropriately, or were influenced by the US to somehow dump Rudd. Yet O'Connor has written his article in a way that suggests impropriety.



qwerty20, if you want to believe without question everything that is presented in a political journal, well thats up to you, but don't expect the rest of us to.

This post has been edited by swingdoctor: Dec 14 2010, 07:59 AM