Illegal immigrant worker, will be sending home Options

[purnomor]

Funny, last month Malaysia was so anxious to expel Indonesian workers, but now the Malaysians are so desperate on having them back.

Factories can’t meet orders, labour shortage at electronics firms


BY SIM LEOI LEOI
PUTRAJAYA: Malaysia is losing out in the current boom in global electronics because the country’s labour-shortage-hit component manufacturers are unable to meet their orders.

The critical shortage of foreign labour has affected local and multinational operations, said Human Resources Minister Datuk Dr Fong Chan Onn. 

“Once the manufacturers cannot deliver their orders on time, they may have to pay penalties to their suppliers. Worse, some of the orders are later rescinded.

“This is bad because there is a demand boom in the global electronics at present and we were hoping to benefit from this,” said Dr Fong. 

“We know that some factories have had to suspend their operations because they cannot find employees to work the machinery,” he told reporters after meeting with bosses and employers, including representatives from the Federation of Malaysian Manufacturers, the Malaysian Retailers Association and the Association of Hotel Owners.

Dr Fong said the small- and medium-sized enterprises were the hardest hit with a shortage of 100,000 workers while the construction sector and Indian Muslim restaurants were asking for 100,000 and 8,000 foreign workers respectively.

“Even the Indian barbershops have claimed to be in need of 1,500 workers,” he said. 

Dr Fong said he had asked these associations to submit to the ministry a list of their grievances and difficulties caused by the bottleneck at the 11 one-stop legalisation centres in Indonesia.

“We will then submit these to Home Minister Datuk Azmi Khalid. Our ministry also wants the bosses to work together with us to prevent more impact on our economic activities,” he said.

As an immediate measure to ease the shortage, Dr Fong said he had advised companies to get local workers by giving them priority in employment and to advertise their vacancies.

“We want them to become less dependent on foreign workers in the future,” he said, adding that should the Indonesian authorities fail to resolve the administrative delays, Malaysia might be forced to get more foreign workers from other countries.

On another matter, Dr Fong said the ministry was also investigating claims that about 50 Malaysian companies had withheld salaries of their illegal foreign workers.

[furansizuka]

[quote=purnomor,Mar 12 2005, 06:58 AM]
Funny, last month Malaysia was so anxious to expel Indonesian workers, but now the Malaysians are so desperate on having them back.
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[/quote]

So sad...yang lebih miris lagi pasti banyak TKI yang memilih kembali kesana meskipun menderita (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/sure.gif) My ex-maid (yg sekarang sudah jadi OKB) said that she prefered working in Taiwan or Hongkong to neighbor country karena perlakuan mereka lebih manusiawi. They know they need para tenaga kerja asing ini dan ngga mau macam2. Unfortunately mereka lebih milih TK dari Filipina than Indo krn bahasa inggris TKI kita masih kurang.

[Nusantara]

Let me remind people here, this issue what we talked about is IILEGAL immigrants, Indonesian already get used to cross the line of illegal thing so we don't get the actual meaning again.

As far as I know Malaysian government had given windows oppurtunity twice in few month back for all illegal immigrants to comeback to their country and prepared the document and could comeback again working in Malaysia.

So what's all about so many fuss in Indonesia? 2 windows oppurtunity given in the past to comeback to Indonesia and prepare LEGAL document (many of them does not even have a passport). Whose nose need to be pointing at?

[purnomor]

Unfortunately for Malaysia, their manufacturing, construction, and service industry have for long been highly dependent on Indonesian illegal workers, bcoz they cost a fraction of the salary of legal workers.

This post has been edited by purnomor: Mar 15 2005, 09:32 PM

[Nusantara]

Unfortunately for Malaysia, their manufacturing, construction, and service industry have for long been highly dependent on Indonesian illegal workers, bcoz they cost a fraction of the salary of legal workers.

Indonesia should not let it happened in the future, only send legal worker abroad for their own protection themself.
And being legal in Malaysia will increase their bargain power in salary but they will not be less competitive compare to others workers from other country like Philipine, India, Bangladesh and Thailand.
Malaysian so much in favor using indnesian worker as a lot of similarity not only in religion but also in culture.

[purnomor]

the problem is not only the supply part, but the demand side as well. there are malaysians who receive these illegal migrants when they land at malaysian shores at night, shelter them, and use their labor. these malaysians also actively look for illegal migrants in indonesia itself (i konw by personal experience). why? bcoz these illegal migrants are practically slaves to their malaysian employers, and slave labor cost them very little. if illegal migration problem were to be solved, the malaysian govt must crack down hard on the malaysians who employed them (eg: the whole manufacturing, construction, and service industry)

[Nusantara]

Malaysia right now did has strict policy regarding illegal immigrant being employed by Malaysian. Employer who did such as action has been imposing with high penalty.

PUTRAJAYA, 2 Mac (Bernama) -- Dua majikan lelaki di Johor ditahan dalam Ops Tegas oleh penguatkuasa Jabatan Imigresen kerana mengambil pendatang asing tanpa izin sebagai pekerja.

Menteri Hal Ehwal Dalam Negeri Datuk Azmi Khalid berkata salah seorang daripada majikan itu dipercayai mengambil lapan orang pekerja pendatang haram untuk bekerja di sebuah kantin.

Seorang lagi majikan mengambil tiga pekerja pendatang tanpa izin untuk bekerja di bidang pembinaan, katanya kepada pemberita untuk membentangkan perangkaan Ops Tegas seluruh negara selepas mesyuarat kabinet di sini hari ini. Tempoh pengampunan tamat pada Isnin lepas.

Katanya sehingga pukul 4 pagi, perangkaan Ops Tegas merekodkan seramai 5,521 pendatang asing diperiksa dan daripada jumlah itu, 563 orang ditahan manakala selebihnya dibebaskan.

Azmi berkata mereka yang ditahan itu didapati melakukan kesalahan mengikut Akta Imigresen kerana tinggal lebih masa di negara ini, berada di negara ini tanpa dokumen atau pas yang sah, dokumen serta cop visa palsu dan salah guna pas pelawat.

Beliau berkata daripada 563 orang yang ditahan, 370 orang adalah warganegara Indonesia, Filipina (108 orang), Perancis (23 orang), Thailand (16 orang),

Bangladesh (lapan orang), Britain (lima orang), Nepal (empat orang), Pakistan (tiga orang), Amerika Syarikat (dua orang), India (dua orang), Vietnam (dua orang), Itali (seorang) dan Croatia (seorang).

Katanya Sabah mencatatkan jumlah tangkapan tertinggi iaitu seramai 235 pendatang haram diikuti Sarawak seramai 69 orang.

[Protoculture]

Starting April 1, ALL foreign workers (including Indonesians) need to undergo 3 - 15 days induction courses conducted by Ministry of Human Resource, Malaysia. If they passed the induction courses, they will be eligible for work permits.

This course to educate foreign workers regarding Malaysian law, culture, environment, sensitivities, history etc.

Hopefully, by this, we'll be able to increase the quality of foreigners working in various Malaysian industries.

[purnomor]

^ i agree!

Dua majikan lelaki di Johor ditahan dalam Ops Tegas oleh penguatkuasa Jabatan Imigresen kerana mengambil pendatang asing tanpa izin sebagai pekerja.

malaysia hv only arrested TWO employers employing illegal migrants? pardon me, but i dont think this can be taken seriously

[Nusantara]

^ i agree!

Dua majikan lelaki di Johor ditahan dalam Ops Tegas oleh penguatkuasa Jabatan Imigresen kerana mengambil pendatang asing tanpa izin sebagai pekerja.

malaysia hv only arrested TWO employers employing illegal migrants? pardon me, but i dont think this can be taken seriously

Malaysia have strict law about employment illegal immigrant. Here from Kompas:

Malaysia Lancarkan Operasi terhadap Imigran Gelap

Pontianak, Kompas - Pemerintah Malaysia melalui petugas keimigrasian, kepolisian dan instansi terkait, mulai 1 Agustus mendatang akan melancarkan operasi besar-besaran terhadap para pendatang atau imigran gelap yang masih bertahan di negara ini. Operasi ini dilakukan setelah diberikan masa waktu pengampunan tiga bulan hingga 30 Juli mendatang, bagi para pendatang haram.

Hal ini diungkapkan Direktur Yayasan Lembaga Bantuan Hukum Perempuan Indonesia untuk Keadilan (YLBH PIK) Kalbar, Hairiah di Pontianak, Jumat (19/7). "Sejak beberapa bulan lalu dan sampai sekarang, Pemerintah Malaysia secara gencar memberikan pengumuman adanya pengampunan bagi para pedatang haram dan diminta pulang ke negara asalnya. Sebab, mulai 1 Agustus mendatang Pemerintah Malaysia secara serius memberlakukan hukuman baru bagi para imigran gelap yang masuk ke negara ini," katanya.

Menurut Hairiah, dengan berlakunya akta keimigrasian yang baru, para pendatang haram, termasuk para tenaga kerja ilegal, tidak hanya terkena hukuman denda dan penjara, tetapi juga hukuman cambuk. Padahal, seperti di Sarawak (Malaysia Timur) saja, warga Indonesia yang termasuk kategori TKI Ilegal pada saat ini diperkirakan mencapai 150.000 orang.

Ironisnya, kata Hairiah, Pemerintah Indonesia sampai saat ini terkesan kurang peduli dengan persoalan nasib ribuan warganya yang masuk tanpa izin ke negara tersebut. "Pemerintah seharusnya melakukan pembicaraan yang intensif dengan Pemerintah Malaysia untuk mengatur kepulangan mereka. Ini sangat penting agar mereka tidak mendapat perlakukan yang tidak manusiawi saat diberlakukannya hukuman yang baru tersebut," ungkapnya.

Dijelaskan, bagi pendatang asing ilegal yang masih berada di Malaysia setelah 1 Agustus akan dikenakan hukuman denda maksimum 10.000 ringgit Malaysia (RM) dan atau penjara maksimum 5 tahun dan hukuman cambuk dengan rotan sebanyak enam kali. Sementara majikan yang mempekerjakan lebih dari 5 pekerja asing ilegal bisa dikenakan hukuman penjara minimum enam bulan dan maksimum 5 tahun dan hukuman cambuk rotan enam kali.

Adapun bagi pemilik bangunan yang mengizinkan seorang pendatang ilegal masuk atau tinggal ditempatnya dikenakan hukuman denda sebanyak 5.000 RM hingga 30.000 RM atau dihukum penjara maksimum 12 bulan. Jika pemilik bangunan itu mengulangi kesalahan ini bisa dikenakan hukuman denda 10.000 RM hingga 50.000 RM dan atau penjara maksimum 2 tahun.

Selain itu, bagi siapa saja yang melindungi seorang pendatang tanpa izin bisa dikenakan hukuman denda 10.000 RM hingga 50.000 RM. Dan jika pendatang tanpa izin yang dilindungi itu lebih dari 5 orang pada masa yang sama, maka bagi pesalah tersebut dikenakan hukuman penjara selama enam bulan hingga 5 tahun dan dicambuk dengan rotan maksimum sebanyak enam kali. (ful)

Pepatah orang tua kita bilang:
Semut di seberang lautan nampak tapi gajah di pelupuk mata tak tampak.

All about Indonesian illegal immigrant worker the source of the problem is coming from Indonesia. Not only can not feed their own people so they have to find work to other country. But also does not care to give education to people how important to get legal document to work to neighbor country. It's all too much corruption in this country so people does not want to deal about legal matters.

[malaccan]

Sedangkan lidah lagi tergigit.... semoga persahabatan antara Malaysia dan Indonesia akan kembali kukuh seperti sediakala. Here's an article by a Malaysian acedmician which I agree wholeheartedly.

VIEW: Malaysians are forgetting shared past with Indonesia
—Farish A Noor

Historically the great cultural centres of Southeast Asia were the result of collective effort and the negotiation between cultures. Recognition of this historical legacy would require the effort of overcoming the ‘otherness’ of our neighbours

Malaysia’s campaign to detain and deport hundreds of thousands of ‘illegal migrants’ from the country has raised the political temperature in the ASEAN region, with the Indonesian press in particular hot and angry about the alleged mistreatment of Indonesian workers by Malaysian authorities.

The most appalling aspect of the present media-orchestrated scare about illegal migrants in Malaysia is the blatant prejudice that at times accompanies the campaign. Never mind the fact that Malaysia actually needs these foreign workers; or the fact that in many cases their illegal entry was facilitated by corrupt Malaysian companies and businessmen themselves.

Despite the improvement in government-to-government relations between Malaysia and Indonesia, it would appear as if our societies are further apart than ever before. Prejudice, misapprehension and the tendency to resort to caricatural stereotypes have clouded our vision of shared humanity and a collective destiny, for the peoples of ASEAN as a whole.

It is astounding, to say the least, that the citizens of present-day Malaysia and Indonesia seem to demonstrate no knowledge of history whatsoever. The official narrative of post-colonial Malaysia and Indonesia is a modern myth that presents the state as a fait accompli, regardless of the fact that Malaysia and Indonesia — like all the other states of the ASEAN region — are artificial modern constructs whose borders were set not by the peoples of ASEAN themselves but rather by our former colonial masters.

Today Malaysians and Indonesians view each other through the narrow perspective of the modern nation-state, whose boundaries (be they political, cultural or historic) seem eternally fixed. This begs the obvious question invariably asked by the scholar: What about the centuries of cross-cultural contact, migration and fluid inter-penetration?

Lest we forget, the most important and renowned Malay kingdom — Malacca — was founded by Paramesvara (later Sultan Megat Iskandar Shah), who was himself from Palembang, Sumatra [Indonesia’s largest province]. In the post-colonial era the memory of Malacca has been used time and again by countless Malaysian politicians and ideologues as proof of the greatness of the people of Malaysia — except we often forget that Malacca would never have existed had it not been for the labours of a prince from Sumatra!

This is equally true of many other great kingdoms and empires of Southeast Asia, from Angkor to Ayudhaya, Majapahit to Mataram, Aceh to Patani: they were all created by the collective efforts of Southeast Asians who migrated from one part of the region to another. This was the era before the arrival of the modern idea of the nation-state, one that was not configured by the dislocating and disruptive effects of colonial intervention.

Sadly today this sense of a common, abstract, collective identity has passed. It is a supreme irony that Malaysians today regard Indonesians as ‘foreigners’, and vice versa; when the reality is that for hundreds of years the two nations have been in constant contact with each other. It is also ironic that the Malays of Malaysia regard their Indonesian counterparts as being as ‘foreign’ as any tourist from Europe or Japan, considering the obvious links of language, culture and religion they share together.

The ‘Othering’ of our Indonesian brethren as ‘outsiders’ and ‘foreigners’ would not have happened had it not been for the vicissitudes of politics. Prior to the creation of a separate Malaysia and Indonesia, scores of Malaysians were directly involved in the independence struggle of the Indonesian nation, which they regarded as an extension of their own habitus.

It was, however, the ‘Konfrontasi’ (confrontation) between Indonesia and Malaysia in the early 1960s that led to the fatal rupture that effectively sealed the fate of both countries. Hundreds of Malaysian Muslim students who were studying in the traditional madrassahs and pesantren of Indonesia were recalled by the Malaysian government and then redirected to more conservative institutions in the Arab states. (An ironic twist indeed, for it also foreclosed for the Malaysians the possibility of developing of a more tolerant, pluralist and dynamic Islamist intellectualism as we find in Indonesia today.)

As Malaysians and Indonesians were taught to think of each other as different and alien, the sense of common identity and the sharing of a common past became impossible. Centuries of cross-cultural borrowing and migration had been summarily brought to an untimely end by the most unnatural of political developments.

That is why the people of ASEAN desperately need a collective subaltern history of ASEAN written from the perspective of the people, rather than the governments, of the region. Should this condition continue unchallenged, we might as well forget the dream of creating an ASEAN for and by the people of ASEAN themselves. The solipsistic logic of the modern nation-state does not sit comfortably with non-governable elements and phenomena such as the trans-cultural transfer of ideas, values and peoples: Yet it is precisely this fluid dynamics of interaction and exchange that holds the key to the development of dynamic civilisations and cultures.

The collective effort to remember our shared past and future is also the means by which we re-member, that is put back together, the broken and disfigured body of the ASEAN region. The patchwork of cultures, languages and multiple identities that makes up the reality of a complex ASEAN cannot and will never be captured in its totality by an official discourse that privileges the state above all else as the agent of history. Historically the great cultural centres of Southeast Asia were the result of collective effort and the negotiation between cultures. Recognition of this historical legacy would require the effort of overcoming the ‘otherness’ of our neighbours. This is the truth that we, the nations of ASEAN, need to remind ourselves time and again: We are NOT ‘strangers’ to each other!

Kita bangsa serumpun. Bukannya jarang adik-beradik berkelahi, tapi bak kata pepatah, air yang dicincang tidak akan putus.

[Nusantara]

All the tension toward Malaysian over Ambalat case was provoked and campaigned mostly by Indonesian journalism.
Here is script from Jakarta Post:

Media criticized for stoking hatred over Ambalat

The Jakarta Post, Jakarta

Activists here criticized the media for contributing to the tension between Indonesia and Malaysia over the disputed Ambalat offshore oil block in the Sulawesi Sea.

The Indonesian media failed to promote peace in its coverage of a dispute that prompted the two neighboring counties to deploy warships to the disputed maritime area, the activists said.

This assessment was given during a discussion hosted by the Institute for the Study of the Free Flow of Information (ISAI) on Wednesday.

They said the reporting on the "Ganyang (Crush) Malaysia" campaign in several cities and towns was "provocative".

"Based on my observations, the national media focused on the possibility of war rather than advocating a peaceful settlement," said Erianto, an ISAI researcher.

"For example, the local media preferred to give coverage to the deployment of soldiers in Ambalat or the recruitment of volunteers to attack Malaysia," he said.

Erianto noted that the Malaysian media did not cover the Ambalat issue as heavily as the media in Indonesian.

"In Malaysia, the issue first appeared in the media about March 7, highlighting a telephone conversation between Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono and Abdullah Ahmad Badawi, who discussed a settlement to the conflict," he said, citing news reports published by Malaysian newspapers such as Berita Harian, The Star, The New Strait Times and Utusan Malaysia.

The on-line version of Utusan Malaysia, utusan.com.my, however, published a report on Ambalat on Feb. 28, emphasizing Malaysia's claim over the area.

Of 16 articles published by the Malaysian media, none encouraged people to attack Indonesians or to take the Ambalat area by military force, Irianto said.

The Bernama news agency in Malaysia ran two featurized articles, titled What Ambalat? Balinese Ask and A Week of Positive Indications for Indonesia-Malaysia Relations, which conveyed the message that relations between people in the two countries were not disturbed by the issue.

One of the stories mentioned that a Malaysian travel agency had seen an increase in bookings by Malaysian groups holidaying in Bali in March.

Fathi Aris Omar, a columnist for Malaysiakini.com, said the word "Ambalat" was not even familiar in Malaysia, as the disputed area was more often referred to as "Block XYZ".

"There's nothing shocking about it. That's because Malaysia also has territorial disputes with Singapore and Thailand," he said. "But it became a vital issue when Indonesians started burning Malaysian flags."

The activists emphasized the need for the Indonesian media to promote "peace journalism", which means that news outlets should consider the implications of their coverage.

"Merely serving up the facts is not enough. You should also consider putting positive values into your reports because just a few days of war could bring years of suffering," Fathi said.

Peace journalism has been promoted by, among others, Johan Galtung, a Norwegian who founded the Peace Research Institute in 1959. He urged journalists to consider non-violent values in choosing what stories to report and how to report them, by embracing balance, fairness and accuracy in their coverage.

http://www.thejakartapost.com/detailnation...0401.C03&irec=2

[purnomor]

^ this does not make sense. it is malaysia who unilaterally claim indonesian territory. of course it is indonesians who got upset abt this. malaysians have no reason to be upset. if indonesia decide to unilaterally claim sabah and send soldiers to harrass malaysians in that area, of course it will be malaysians who will be upset.

This post has been edited by purnomor: Apr 4 2005, 02:03 AM

[purnomor]

^ i agree!

Dua majikan lelaki di Johor ditahan dalam Ops Tegas oleh penguatkuasa Jabatan Imigresen kerana mengambil pendatang asing tanpa izin sebagai pekerja.

malaysia hv only arrested TWO employers employing illegal migrants? pardon me, but i dont think this can be taken seriously

Malaysia have strict law about employment illegal immigrant. Here from Kompas:

Malaysia Lancarkan Operasi terhadap Imigran Gelap

Pontianak, Kompas - Pemerintah Malaysia melalui petugas keimigrasian, kepolisian dan instansi terkait, mulai 1 Agustus mendatang akan melancarkan operasi besar-besaran terhadap para pendatang atau imigran gelap yang masih bertahan di negara ini. Operasi ini dilakukan setelah diberikan masa waktu pengampunan tiga bulan hingga 30 Juli mendatang, bagi para pendatang haram.

Hal ini diungkapkan Direktur Yayasan Lembaga Bantuan Hukum Perempuan Indonesia untuk Keadilan (YLBH PIK) Kalbar, Hairiah di Pontianak, Jumat (19/7). "Sejak beberapa bulan lalu dan sampai sekarang, Pemerintah Malaysia secara gencar memberikan pengumuman adanya pengampunan bagi para pedatang haram dan diminta pulang ke negara asalnya. Sebab, mulai 1 Agustus mendatang Pemerintah Malaysia secara serius memberlakukan hukuman baru bagi para imigran gelap yang masuk ke negara ini," katanya.

Menurut Hairiah, dengan berlakunya akta keimigrasian yang baru, para pendatang haram, termasuk para tenaga kerja ilegal, tidak hanya terkena hukuman denda dan penjara, tetapi juga hukuman cambuk. Padahal, seperti di Sarawak (Malaysia Timur) saja, warga Indonesia yang termasuk kategori TKI Ilegal pada saat ini diperkirakan mencapai 150.000 orang.

Ironisnya, kata Hairiah, Pemerintah Indonesia sampai saat ini terkesan kurang peduli dengan persoalan nasib ribuan warganya yang masuk tanpa izin ke negara tersebut. "Pemerintah seharusnya melakukan pembicaraan yang intensif dengan Pemerintah Malaysia untuk mengatur kepulangan mereka. Ini sangat penting agar mereka tidak mendapat perlakukan yang tidak manusiawi saat diberlakukannya hukuman yang baru tersebut," ungkapnya.

Dijelaskan, bagi pendatang asing ilegal yang masih berada di Malaysia setelah 1 Agustus akan dikenakan hukuman denda maksimum 10.000 ringgit Malaysia (RM) dan atau penjara maksimum 5 tahun dan hukuman cambuk dengan rotan sebanyak enam kali. Sementara majikan yang mempekerjakan lebih dari 5 pekerja asing ilegal bisa dikenakan hukuman penjara minimum enam bulan dan maksimum 5 tahun dan hukuman cambuk rotan enam kali.

Adapun bagi pemilik bangunan yang mengizinkan seorang pendatang ilegal masuk atau tinggal ditempatnya dikenakan hukuman denda sebanyak 5.000 RM hingga 30.000 RM atau dihukum penjara maksimum 12 bulan. Jika pemilik bangunan itu mengulangi kesalahan ini bisa dikenakan hukuman denda 10.000 RM hingga 50.000 RM dan atau penjara maksimum 2 tahun.

Selain itu, bagi siapa saja yang melindungi seorang pendatang tanpa izin bisa dikenakan hukuman denda 10.000 RM hingga 50.000 RM. Dan jika pendatang tanpa izin yang dilindungi itu lebih dari 5 orang pada masa yang sama, maka bagi pesalah tersebut dikenakan hukuman penjara selama enam bulan hingga 5 tahun dan dicambuk dengan rotan maksimum sebanyak enam kali. (ful)

Pepatah orang tua kita bilang:
Semut di seberang lautan nampak tapi gajah di pelupuk mata tak tampak.

All about Indonesian illegal immigrant worker the source of the problem is coming from Indonesia. Not only can not feed their own people so they have to find work to other country. But also does not care to give education to people how important to get legal document to work to neighbor country. It's all too much corruption in this country so people does not want to deal about legal matters.

^ i never say indonesia is totally blameless in this problem. however, the problem in indonesia is structural, such as wage-disparity and unemployment. it'll take generations before indonesia's income per capita will equal malaysia's, and it will be some time before economic growth pick up to absorb all the 10% unemployed. however, it is malaysians who actively seek and house indonesian illegal migrants to their country to be treated as slave labor. how can 800,000 foreigners sneak into malaysia unassisted if not helped from the other side.
of course, malaysia can put all the blame to indonesia and try again expelling illegal migrants, but the result will be just like in 2002 when malaysia expelled 1 million indonesian illegals, only to have 800,000 illegals back in their country in 2004. if they didn't do something serious abt their own employers, this vicious circle will continue and malaysia will never see the end of illegal migrants problem.

[wewill2008]

According to Malaysian Labor Minister, the many problems associated with Indonesian workers in Malaysia is bcoz the best of Indonesian migrant workers went to Japan, South Korea, Singapore, or Middle East. Malaysia generally got the least-qualified workers, many of them actually professional criminals.
Like some bandits from Ogan Komering Ulu in South Sumatera, they go to Malaysia to do crime, such as bag-snatching, then went back to Indo to spend the loot. When the money ran out, they went back to Malaysia to do crime again. This I heard from a radio interview with one such seasonal bandits..

"The best...Indonesian migrant workers"?? How can you tell? Oh please.

I heard stories that many of the women get abused In Kwait.

You forgot to mention Taiwan and Hong Kong.

What percentage of the Indonesian immigrants in Malaysia are professional criminals???? Perhaps you should be more polite to a lot of your those countrymen.

[wewill2008]

Funny, last month Malaysia was so anxious to expel Indonesian workers, but now the Malaysians are so desperate on having them back.

My guess: The percentage of professional criminals among them is really small and they are not significantly worse than the best migrants which goes elsewhere. So maybe both you and Malaysia were wrong somewhere.


Here is an article providing some insight into the business.

http://www.cefc.com.hk/fr/cefc/seminaire.php?idsem=70

[purnomor]

"The best...Indonesian migrant workers"?? How can you tell? Oh please.

The best educated and skilled Indonesian workers such as professionals, nurses, or teachers mostly goes to Singapore, Taiwan, Hongkong, Japan, and Middle East. Of course there are also Indonesian maids who went to these countries, but they tend to have some language and skills training than those who goes to Malaysia, many of whom went illegally.