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post Mar 20 2011, 03:05 AM
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Taken from Lichsuvn.info

khiên này có trong sách Mỹ thuật việt Nam-TRANH CO VIET NAM (ANCIENT AND TRADITIONAL PAINTINGS OF VIETNAM), pages 68-69.
("Triumphal return of the military mandarin -- At the end of the 18th century (Doc Loi - Quynh - Nghe An)"
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attachment.p...14105&stc=1
Notice how different we dressed before 19th century.

khiên h́nh thuỗn dài có hoa văn rồng thời Lư
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attachment.p...14030&stc=1
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attachment.p...14032&stc=1
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attachment.p...14033&stc=1

ngoài ra c̣n có cái làm bằng mây, rất đẹp
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attachment.p...14102&stc=1

có cả khiên tṛn cũng cực tinh xảo, trưng bàyđấu giá bở nhà Southeby Newyork
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attachment.p...14076&stc=1
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attachment.p...14075&stc=1
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attachment.p...14074&stc=1
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attachment.p...14073&stc=1
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attachment.p...14072&stc=1
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attachment.p...14076&stc=1

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QUOTE (DOUBLEMINT @ Mar 21 2011, 02:30 AM) *
1751-1757.《皇清职贡图》

Thanks. Paintings like this really help us get a clearer picture of Vietnam's past.

I don't know what happened to all Vietnamese paintings before the Nguyen Dynasty because they're nearly nonexistent.
Possibly burnt throughout all those wars.

QUOTE (XigonCongchua @ Mar 21 2011, 02:31 AM) *
I really hate it when people act irrationally. People complain about that drama being "too Chinese", but really do they even know what is "too Chinese" and what's not? I guess they just watch too much Chinese drama and they don't know what is Vietnamese anymore. We should make a TV series to show them distinction between "what is Chinese" and "what is Viet". Eg: Clothes of Vietnamese royalty prior to the Le dynasty often have red color instead yellow. Speaking of color of Vietnamese royalty, I just remember that in the series "Về Đất Thăng Long", they use yellow for the kings' clothes while in Đường Đến Thăng Long red is used for royal clothes, and OMG they protest DDTL as being "too Chinese" but not "Về Đất Thăng Long"? God, they even let the king wear manchu clothes (not aodai) in one of the scenes in Về Đất Thăng Long. DDTL seems much more historically accurate. People are just too ignorant.


Yeup definitely.
Most likely a result of watching too many foreign movies instead of focusing on improving our own.
Most Vietnamese, especially ones overseas know more about foreign history (Chinese, Korean etc) than our own because
of these dramas which is possibly why they criticized DDTTL. They don't know anything about their own culture besides
what happened in the past 200 years.

I just hate how there are some Viet Kieu who are utilizing this to criticize the government as Chinese sellouts etc. They're just
making the situation worse.
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