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post Mar 20 2011, 03:05 AM
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khiên này có trong sách Mỹ thuật việt Nam-TRANH CO VIET NAM (ANCIENT AND TRADITIONAL PAINTINGS OF VIETNAM), pages 68-69.
("Triumphal return of the military mandarin -- At the end of the 18th century (Doc Loi - Quynh - Nghe An)"
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attachment.p...14105&stc=1
Notice how different we dressed before 19th century.

khiên h́nh thuỗn dài có hoa văn rồng thời Lư
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attachment.p...14030&stc=1
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attachment.p...14032&stc=1
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attachment.p...14033&stc=1

ngoài ra c̣n có cái làm bằng mây, rất đẹp
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attachment.p...14102&stc=1

có cả khiên tṛn cũng cực tinh xảo, trưng bàyđấu giá bở nhà Southeby Newyork
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attachment.p...14076&stc=1
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attachment.p...14075&stc=1
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attachment.p...14074&stc=1
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attachment.p...14073&stc=1
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attachment.p...14072&stc=1
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attachment.p...14076&stc=1

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post Mar 21 2011, 06:51 AM
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Sorry, but you are using wrong word, our leader being regard as Emperor "Thiên Phật Hoàng" by both Siam and Cambod and the rest of SEA, not king, please keep your respect as we keep ours and called your leader "Emperor".
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QUOTE (LonelyKitty @ Mar 21 2011, 06:51 AM) *
Sorry, but you are using wrong word, our leader being regard as Emperor "Thiên Phật Hoàng" by both Siam and Cambod and the rest of SEA, not king, please keep your respect as we keep ours and called your leader "Emperor".

I used the word 'king' because I was talking about the system of "Liu"(旒).
天子之冕十二旒，诸侯九，上大夫七，下大夫五
Emperor---12
Vassal,Royal--9
Noble--7
Officers--5
Its very weird that vietnamese emperor only has 6.
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QUOTE (DOUBLEMINT @ Mar 21 2011, 07:01 AM) *
I used the word 'king' because I was talking about the system of "Liu"(旒).
天子之冕十二旒,诸侯九,上大夫七,下大夫五
Emperor---12
Vassal,Royal--9
Noble--7
Officers--5
Its very weird that vietnamese emperor only has 6.

thank you, i think that because we Vietnamese got independence so we are the only one got six (i don't see six on the list)
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QUOTE (LonelyKitty @ Mar 21 2011, 07:06 AM) *
thank you, i think that because we Vietnamese got independence so we are the only one got six (i don't see six on the list)


Six is 毳冕,its for 子男(baron) which ranks the lowest in the ancient five-lord system.Thats why I found it so weird that vietnamese emeperor only has 6.
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QUOTE (DOUBLEMINT @ Mar 21 2011, 07:26 AM) *
Six is 毳冕,its for 子男(baron) which ranks the lowest in the ancient five-lord system.Thats why I found it so weird that vietnamese emeperor only has 6.

maybe Qing emperor love to tự sướng? I mean maybe he want to show that his power is double Vietnamese Emperor. 12/2=6
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maybe Qing emperor love to tự sướng? I mean maybe he want to show that his power is double Vietnamese Emperor. 12/2=6

Maybe.
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QUOTE (DOUBLEMINT @ Mar 21 2011, 08:02 AM) *
Maybe.

can't blame them, my emperor Minh Mang used to said to his servant that Qing emperor don't have the ability to make a poem. Hi hi sometimes i think that how deep our ancestors are, they are also funny, i wished they could be good friend.
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