Ancient Artifacts, Ancient Paintings & More |
|
|
|
Ancient Artifacts, Ancient Paintings & More |
 |
 Mar 21 2011, 02:47 PM
Post
#2
|
|
|
AF Legend  Group: Members Posts: 21,777 Joined: 24-September 07  |
Áo Mệnh Phụ is basically a shirt with a long flowing outer jacket that women in wealthy/elite families wore. It doesn't have any definite shape.
Mệnh Phụ = 命婦 Áo Mệnh Phụ obviously changed from dynasty to dynasty and the áo mệnh phụ that Vietnamese know today is from the Nguyen dynasty. However, not any outer shirt can be called áo mệnh phụ. It has to be long, flowy, often with intricate embroideries, basically it has to signify something different from the common class. These dresses wouldn't be called "áo mệnh phụ" because they're too short and quite "ordinary"    But this one can because it least it seems long and flowy to me  These are áo mệnh phụ of the Nguyen dynasty .jpg)   Of course you can see the "modern áo dài" with Mandarin collar inside because these are designed recently Young Queen Nam Phương (the last queen of Vietnam) in her Áo Mệnh Phụ (notice the collar inside is lower)  Queen Nam Phương in a dress without outter jacket  Áo Mệnh Phụ of Princess Mỹ Lương  Áo Mệnh Phụ of Hoàng Thái Hậu (King's mother)  Royal "áo dài" of princes    Royal áo dài of a queen 
|
 |
 
|
|
Mar 21 2011, 08:02 PM
Post
#3
|
|
|
AF Pro  Group: Members Posts: 2,397 Joined: 27-October 10 |
QUOTE Áo Mệnh Phụ is basically a shirt with a long flowing outer jacket that women in wealthy/elite families wore. It doesn\'t have any definite shape. Mệnh Phụ = 命婦 Áo Mệnh Phụ obviously changed from dynasty to dynasty and the áo mệnh phụ that Vietnamese know today is from the Nguyen dynasty. However, not any outer shirt can be called áo mệnh phụ. It has to be long, flowy, often with intricate embroideries, basically it has to signify something different from the common class. But this one can because it least it seems long and flowy to me These are áo mệnh phụ of the Nguyen dynasty Áo Mệnh Phụ of Princess Mỹ Lương Áo Mệnh Phụ looks very 'vietnamese' to me.AlthoughI do find something very similar in hanfu.Its called "Beizi".  The splits at these dresses are at the waist too,I think.But the fabric makes them look very different from Áo Mệnh Phụ. 
This post has been edited by DOUBLEMINT: Mar 21 2011, 08:15 PM |
|
|
|
thumbsUp Ancient Artifacts Mar 20 2011, 03:05 AM
thumbsUp Trang phục thời Lư Trần nh... Mar 20 2011, 03:15 AM
XigonCongchua QUOTE (thumbsUp @ Mar 20 2011, 01:15 AM) ... Mar 20 2011, 02:20 PM thumbsUp Ly Tran dynasty soldiers
Le-Trinh Dynasties Mar 20 2011, 03:31 AM thumbsUp Nguyen Dynasty paintings: Mar 20 2011, 03:37 AM thumbsUp RE: Ancient Artifacts Mar 20 2011, 03:39 AM thumbsUp RE: Ancient Artifacts Mar 20 2011, 03:41 AM thumbsUp Cờ Tướng từ lâu đă ... Mar 20 2011, 04:11 AM LonelyKitty Đang đợi có thằng năo ph... Mar 20 2011, 04:21 AM LonelyKitty Is this Really Ly Tran Dynasty Clothing?
This is ... Mar 20 2011, 04:25 AM thumbsUp QUOTE (XigonCongchua @ Mar 20 2011, 02:20... Mar 20 2011, 02:38 PM thumbsUp Portrait of Nguyen Trai
Portrait of Le Hoan (Le ... Mar 20 2011, 03:28 PM XigonCongchua Reconstructed clothings from research
Mạc D... Mar 20 2011, 10:11 PM XigonCongchua QUOTE (XigonCongchua @ Mar 20 2011, 08:11... Mar 21 2011, 01:45 AM thumbsUp QUOTE (XigonCongchua @ Mar 20 2011, 11:11... Mar 21 2011, 12:03 AM LonelyKitty So pics is allowed, i have some nice colour pics t... Mar 21 2011, 12:28 AM thumbsUp Same Ly Cong Uan drama series:
Look at the peasan... Mar 21 2011, 12:39 AM XigonCongchua Of course we were influenced by the Chinese. What ... Mar 21 2011, 12:50 AM thumbsUp QUOTE (XigonCongchua @ Mar 21 2011, 01:50... Mar 21 2011, 01:12 AM XigonCongchua Peasant áo tứ thân
People keep criticizing... Mar 21 2011, 01:07 AM thumbsUp QUOTE (XigonCongchua @ Mar 21 2011, 02:07... Mar 21 2011, 01:18 AM XigonCongchua QUOTE (thumbsUp @ Mar 20 2011, 11:18 PM) ... Mar 21 2011, 01:31 AM XigonCongchua ^ Yea I noticed the collar, but everything was acc... Mar 21 2011, 01:15 AM thumbsUp QUOTE (XigonCongchua @ Mar 21 2011, 02:15... Mar 21 2011, 01:20 AM DOUBLEMINT vietnamese people in an ancient chinese painting. Mar 21 2011, 01:18 AM thumbsUp QUOTE (DOUBLEMINT @ Mar 21 2011, 02:18 AM... Mar 21 2011, 01:24 AM DOUBLEMINT QUOTE (thumbsUp @ Mar 21 2011, 01:24 AM) ... Mar 21 2011, 01:30 AM XigonCongchua ^ Thanks for the contribution. Mar 21 2011, 01:20 AM thumbsUp QUOTE (DOUBLEMINT @ Mar 21 2011, 02:30 AM... Mar 21 2011, 01:50 AM XigonCongchua They actually bear similarity to áo ngũ thân ... Mar 21 2011, 01:54 AM thumbsUp QUOTE (XigonCongchua @ Mar 21 2011, 02:54... Mar 21 2011, 02:04 AM DOUBLEMINT QUOTE (thumbsUp @ Mar 21 2011, 02:04 AM) ... Mar 21 2011, 02:20 AM XigonCongchua QUOTE (DOUBLEMINT @ Mar 21 2011, 12:20 AM... Mar 21 2011, 02:33 AM DOUBLEMINT QUOTE (XigonCongchua @ Mar 21 2011, 02:33... Mar 21 2011, 02:43 AM XigonCongchua QUOTE (DOUBLEMINT @ Mar 21 2011, 12:43 AM... Mar 21 2011, 02:57 AM LonelyKitty QUOTE (DOUBLEMINT @ Mar 21 2011, 03:20 AM... Mar 21 2011, 03:08 AM hoang_1989 I like this thread. It is interesting to follow xi... Mar 21 2011, 02:08 AM XigonCongchua Lord Nguyen decreed that "women dresses had t... Mar 21 2011, 02:09 AM thumbsUp QUOTE (XigonCongchua @ Mar 21 2011, 03:09... Mar 21 2011, 02:16 AM XigonCongchua QUOTE (thumbsUp @ Mar 21 2011, 12:16 AM) ... Mar 21 2011, 02:25 AM XigonCongchua QUOTE (thumbsUp @ Mar 21 2011, 12:16 AM) ... Mar 21 2011, 02:46 AM thumbsUp QUOTE (XigonCongchua @ Mar 21 2011, 03:46... Mar 21 2011, 03:10 AM XigonCongchua QUOTE (thumbsUp @ Mar 21 2011, 01:10 AM) ... Mar 21 2011, 03:19 AM thumbsUp QUOTE (XigonCongchua @ Mar 21 2011, 04:19... Mar 21 2011, 03:29 AM XigonCongchua QUOTE (thumbsUp @ Mar 21 2011, 01:29 AM) ... Mar 21 2011, 03:42 AM thumbsUp QUOTE (XigonCongchua @ Mar 21 2011, 04:42... Mar 21 2011, 03:51 AM DOUBLEMINT QUOTE I guess that means we both agreed there was ... Mar 21 2011, 04:26 AM XigonCongchua QUOTE (DOUBLEMINT @ Mar 21 2011, 02:26 AM... Mar 21 2011, 04:36 AM thumbsUp QUOTE (XigonCongchua @ Mar 21 2011, 04:36... Mar 21 2011, 04:46 AM thumbsUp QUOTE (XigonCongchua @ Mar 21 2011, 03:09... Mar 21 2011, 02:22 AM LonelyKitty This is Quan Huyện Phủ:
You see the 2 ... Mar 21 2011, 03:00 AM LonelyKitty I mean the headdress in this pic, look much much d... Mar 21 2011, 03:10 AM XigonCongchua The mandarin dresses of early Nguyễn dynasty... Mar 21 2011, 03:13 AM XigonCongchua Pardon me but I would highly disagree if you call ... Mar 21 2011, 04:11 AM thumbsUp QUOTE (XigonCongchua @ Mar 21 2011, 04:11... Mar 21 2011, 04:28 AM DOUBLEMINT QUOTE (thumbsUp @ Mar 21 2011, 04:28 AM) ... Mar 21 2011, 04:55 AM thumbsUp QUOTE (DOUBLEMINT @ Mar 21 2011, 04:55 AM... Mar 21 2011, 06:08 AM DOUBLEMINT QUOTE (thumbsUp @ Mar 21 2011, 06:08 AM) ... Mar 21 2011, 06:31 AM thumbsUp QUOTE (DOUBLEMINT @ Mar 21 2011, 07:31 AM... Mar 21 2011, 12:20 PM LonelyKitty Yeah Chinese influence the world with their Collar... Mar 21 2011, 04:56 AM papen Please verify this pic
QUOTE This one's from... Mar 21 2011, 04:57 AM DOUBLEMINT QUOTE (papen @ Mar 21 2011, 04:57 AM) Ple... Mar 21 2011, 05:02 AM LonelyKitty QUOTE (papen @ Mar 21 2011, 04:57 AM) Ple... Mar 21 2011, 05:09 AM XigonCongchua Hm...because Lord Nguyen decreed that people to se... Mar 21 2011, 05:00 AM thumbsUp QUOTE (XigonCongchua @ Mar 21 2011, 05:00... Mar 21 2011, 05:09 AM thumbsUp Found this while searching Giao Chi in Han Tu:
... Mar 21 2011, 05:25 AM LonelyKitty Sorry, but you are using wrong word, our leader be... Mar 21 2011, 06:51 AM DOUBLEMINT QUOTE (LonelyKitty @ Mar 21 2011, 06:51 A... Mar 21 2011, 07:01 AM LonelyKitty QUOTE (DOUBLEMINT @ Mar 21 2011, 07:01 AM... Mar 21 2011, 07:06 AM DOUBLEMINT QUOTE (LonelyKitty @ Mar 21 2011, 07:06 A... Mar 21 2011, 07:26 AM LonelyKitty QUOTE (DOUBLEMINT @ Mar 21 2011, 07:26 AM... Mar 21 2011, 07:44 AM DOUBLEMINT QUOTE (LonelyKitty @ Mar 21 2011, 07:44 A... Mar 21 2011, 08:02 AM LonelyKitty QUOTE (DOUBLEMINT @ Mar 21 2011, 08:02 AM... Mar 21 2011, 08:12 AM DOUBLEMINT QUOTE (LonelyKitty @ Mar 21 2011, 08:12 A... Mar 21 2011, 08:25 AM Foxever There is alot traditional customs look similar. Ch... Mar 21 2011, 11:01 AM XigonCongchua QUOTE (Foxever @ Mar 21 2011, 09:01 AM) T... Mar 21 2011, 03:03 PM SoCal http://www.tudoart.com/ItemListA.aspx?ArtistID=NGT... Mar 21 2011, 02:42 PM thumbsUp So right now we got a slightly clearer picture of ... Mar 21 2011, 03:29 PM XigonCongchua double post Mar 21 2011, 03:38 PM XigonCongchua ^ People of different classes dress differently, n... Mar 21 2011, 03:45 PM thumbsUp QUOTE (XigonCongchua @ Mar 21 2011, 03:38... Mar 21 2011, 03:50 PM papen I see. It's indeed Vietnamese clothes. I asked... Mar 21 2011, 04:25 PM XigonCongchua Beizi might have some influence on it. Mar 21 2011, 11:42 PM thumbsUp Who's this?
Chân dung Trịnh Đ́nh K... Mar 22 2011, 12:38 AM XigonCongchua Those Le-dynasty mandarin clothes are basically si... Mar 22 2011, 12:41 AM thumbsUp QUOTE (XigonCongchua @ Mar 22 2011, 12:41... Mar 22 2011, 12:58 AM XigonCongchua Áo dài basically came from those robes. It's o... Mar 22 2011, 01:13 AM thumbsUp QUOTE (XigonCongchua @ Mar 22 2011, 01:13... Mar 22 2011, 01:30 AM XigonCongchua There must be some point in history where people i... Mar 22 2011, 01:33 AM thumbsUp QUOTE (XigonCongchua @ Mar 22 2011, 01:33... Mar 22 2011, 01:43 AM XigonCongchua It's a good thing though. Áo dài looks better ... Mar 22 2011, 01:52 AM thumbsUp QUOTE (XigonCongchua @ Mar 22 2011, 02:52... Mar 22 2011, 01:59 AM DOUBLEMINT Are there any ancient paintings or photos about tr... Mar 22 2011, 02:20 AM XigonCongchua QUOTE (DOUBLEMINT @ Mar 22 2011, 12:20 AM... Mar 22 2011, 02:54 AM XigonCongchua Tight-fitting áo dài had come about in the early o... Mar 22 2011, 02:21 AM thumbsUp QUOTE (DOUBLEMINT @ Mar 22 2011, 03:20 AM... Mar 22 2011, 02:36 AM XigonCongchua Folk paintings
Vietnamese female musicians - 18th... Mar 22 2011, 03:16 AM LonelyKitty I love these costumes:
Tien Le Dynasty Costume:
... Mar 22 2011, 06:11 AM |
| Lo-Fi Version | Time is now: 25th May 2013 - 06:18 AM |
