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[freezingpoint]

LOL
I don't think China wants to conquer Africa. History has shown time and time again that the Han Chinese are not a people of warrior-hood or conquest. With the exceptions of Korea and Vietnam, China never really invaded foreign lands. It seems the Han Chinese are only good at fighting themselves. China never produced a great conqueror. I have no idea why deluded white liberals think China wants to conquer other lands.

When it comes to Asiatics and conquest, it is the Altaic nomads who are the real warriors. Most, if not all, of the Asiatic race's greatest conquerors are of Turkic-Mongol decent. Men like Attila the Hun, Genghis Khan, Tamerlane, etc. are the ones who went out and expanded the borders of the Asiatic race.

Even the Southeast Asians have conquered non-Asiatic land. The Vietnamese, the Khmers, and others of Austro-Asiatic descent took Southeast Asia from the Negritos/Aborigines.

China had the opportunity to conquer the Americas and Oceania but they never did. At the time, the Chinese navy was superior to that of all the European countries combined. The world was for the taking but the Chinese just stood by and let Spain/Portugal/England/Holland/France takeover the Americas and Oceania.

Compared to other Asiatics and white people, China really has no history of invading foreign lands.



In the modern world, conquest is done by immigrants. Just take a look at what Mexicans are doing to America.



Actually, I consider all those people to be colonials. For example, I consider the 20,000 Africans living in Guangzhou, China to be foreign invaders.



Nationality is just a piece of paper. Do you seriously think Mexicans share any affinity to white or black Americans? Do you believe Arab Muslims share any affinity to British whites? Ever heard of Aztlan?

As an Asiatic raised in America, I share no affinity with the whites, blacks, and Mexicans. However, I prefer to be a man of honor so I will give credit where it is due. Hence why I support the white man's right to rule America. The first world comforts that I got living in America came from the whites and not from the Native Americans.

I was raised in the part of America that has large numbers of whites, blacks, and Mexicans. Those three groups usually segregate themselves from each other.



Why would I want to create trouble among different Asiatic ethnic groups? I'm the guy who wants the Asiatic race to get together. In fact, I am tired of seeing Asiatic ethnic groups insult and degrade each other. If those people ever lived with Caucasoids/Negroids/Australoids, they would quickly realize that differences among Asiatics are negligible.

I am an Asiatic racialist and not a Chinese nationalist. I never even called myself Chinese in the first place. If you looked at my profile, you would notice that I listed my ethnicity as "Asiatic (aka Mongoloid/yellow)." How am I giving people a bad impression of China if I don't even call myself Chinese?



Like I said before, I don't think China wants to expand. The fact that China refuses to expand is one of the things about Chinese civilization that I don't like. I don't like how they burned Zheng He's treasure ships only to let Europeans conquer the Americas and Oceania. Sometimes, I have more respect for Mongolia. However, I don't support violence. Any type of Asiatic conquest in the modern world should be done with immigrants.

The reason the treasure ships were burned was to save money for defense on land against Mongols.

Each expedition was hugely costly and didn't make money back since the regions Chinese ships visited were populated by locals with comparable technology.

In those days it was far harder to project force, so any country that can make steel arrows and has the terrain to resist invaders, can't be conquered. Unfortunately Indians only had stone arrowheads.

[Human7591]

As someone from Britain who has lived in America, and is white, I can say that the idea of "white pride" is insignificant culturally and the few people that do believe in white supremacy are despised as bigots, so to portray "white pride" as an important cultural force is silly. For the most part, white people/westerners believe that there are no fundamental differences among races, and that the differences which exist are not biological but cultural, and can hence be overcome.

[qwerty2010]

LOL
I don't think China wants to conquer Africa. History has shown time and time again that the Han Chinese are not a people of warrior-hood or conquest. With the exceptions of Korea and Vietnam, China never really invaded foreign lands. It seems the Han Chinese are only good at fighting themselves. China never produced a great conqueror. I have no idea why deluded white liberals think China wants to conquer other lands.

When it comes to Asiatics and conquest, it is the Altaic nomads who are the real warriors. Most, if not all, of the Asiatic race's greatest conquerors are of Turkic-Mongol decent. Men like Attila the Hun, Genghis Khan, Tamerlane, etc. are the ones who went out and expanded the borders of the Asiatic race.

Even the Southeast Asians have conquered non-Asiatic land. The Vietnamese, the Khmers, and others of Austro-Asiatic descent took Southeast Asia from the Negritos/Aborigines.

China had the opportunity to conquer the Americas and Oceania but they never did. At the time, the Chinese navy was superior to that of all the European countries combined. The world was for the taking but the Chinese just stood by and let Spain/Portugal/England/Holland/France takeover the Americas and Oceania.

Compared to other Asiatics and white people, China really has no history of invading foreign lands.



In the modern world, conquest is done by immigrants. Just take a look at what Mexicans are doing to America.



Actually, I consider all those people to be colonials. For example, I consider the 20,000 Africans living in Guangzhou, China to be foreign invaders.



Nationality is just a piece of paper. Do you seriously think Mexicans share any affinity to white or black Americans? Do you believe Arab Muslims share any affinity to British whites? Ever heard of Aztlan?

As an Asiatic raised in America, I share no affinity with the whites, blacks, and Mexicans. However, I prefer to be a man of honor so I will give credit where it is due. Hence why I support the white man's right to rule America. The first world comforts that I got living in America came from the whites and not from the Native Americans.

I was raised in the part of America that has large numbers of whites, blacks, and Mexicans. Those three groups usually segregate themselves from each other.



Why would I want to create trouble among different Asiatic ethnic groups? I'm the guy who wants the Asiatic race to get together. In fact, I am tired of seeing Asiatic ethnic groups insult and degrade each other. If those people ever lived with Caucasoids/Negroids/Australoids, they would quickly realize that differences among Asiatics are negligible.

I am an Asiatic racialist and not a Chinese nationalist. I never even called myself Chinese in the first place. If you looked at my profile, you would notice that I listed my ethnicity as "Asiatic (aka Mongoloid/yellow)." How am I giving people a bad impression of China if I don't even call myself Chinese?



Like I said before, I don't think China wants to expand. The fact that China refuses to expand is one of the things about Chinese civilization that I don't like. I don't like how they burned Zheng He's treasure ships only to let Europeans conquer the Americas and Oceania. Sometimes, I have more respect for Mongolia. However, I don't support violence. Any type of Asiatic conquest in the modern world should be done with immigrants.

LONG post...but ok, at least we AGREE on several points, so I'll focus on those.

1. China is NOT INTERESTED in COLONIZATION. It is simply NOT PRAGMATIC, when China has ways to develop its own WEALTH rather than to demand a transfer from other peoples. China isn't interested in securing a Global Empire, unlike the Western Oligarchs. WHY, I can't answer. I can only point to history, culture, and the fact that it is SURROUNDED, a land-locked power.

2. Agreed that Asians should not start wars with each other, but Disagree that it is because of some "Asian Race" nonsense. It is simply practical, if we all GO TO WAR, we all BURN OUR OWN BACKYARD. That is astonishingly STUPID. Just look through WW2 History, weren't the Japanese stupid to bring disaster not only to the entire Asia but also to itself? This opens the door to our collective domination by the US-UK-Global MNCs hegemony for the next century.

3. There are no permanent friends or foes, only permanent interests. Whoever shares the same interests and act accordingly are friends, whatever the nature of their society, race or culture.

The Chinese survived for such a long time because we're first and foremost PRAGMATIC, not driven by irrational hatred or emotions, such as "Racial or Religious Supremacy". Try a little of this pragmatism and it's likely that we can all come to compromise of some kind to secure our basic interests, thus avoiding wars. this is also called DIPLOMACY.

This post has been edited by qwerty2010: May 23 2011, 01:23 AM

[Suijen]

China wouldn't colonize because it wouldn't pay anyways. Look at how the US can't even hold Afghanistan. Whatever resources China needs, it can buy.

[arabianights]

in ancient times, china proper was one of the best fertile lands in the world, yellow river region was covered with forest, with many large wild animals such as elephants still existed in central china, it's advanced agriculture was able to support dense population ( 1/4 of world total since Han dynasty). so when the unification was completed, chinese believed they had the best land in the world hence the lack of drive to find new lands.

one of the key elements of western domination is the discovery of New World. without it, Europe probably would have had a much harder time to dominate the world.

the morale of the story is that you need external/internal pressure to stay focused and keep exploring, once one became complacent, it will start to decline, exactly like what's being unfold in the U.S. nowadays.

[gracelaw]

Wowie. An opinionative article that stinks of sore loserness.

"Yeah you guys may have the highest IQs, but we are the ones that have shown innovation throughout history, so there!"

So, who is "we" in your statement? Please clarify, just curious if you were referring to a country or a race.