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Is the Dalai Lama the end of the line?
elleX0
post May 29 2011, 10:15 AM
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QUOTE (qwerty2010 @ May 29 2011, 02:12 PM) *
Read Michael Parenti's "Friendly Feudalism" to understand more about the nature of different sects of Buddhism vs its widely held stereotype, violence, political and economic, as well as an account of what happened before and after the Communists came, and why after centuries of dealing with the Chinese rulers, this particular Chinese government is anathema to the Tibetan oligarchs:

http://www.michaelparenti.org/Tibet.html


What's interesting is that among the exiled Tibetans, the Dalai Lama's vicious crackdown on the Shugden worshipers, a deity who is quite popular historically among Tibetans, is backfiring and the Shugden worshipers are openly rebelling against the Dalai Lama now :

http://www.westernshugdensociety.org/

It is apparent that there is no freedom of religion among the exiles, who are ruled by a clique of the inner circle.

Maybe it's just me, but I personally prefer the Tibetans to develop a modern society instead of adhering to a theocracy that blatantly exploits the majority, leaving religion in a less encompassing role. However, the whole concept of "karma" is to accept one's lot in life, and to believe that one's serfdom and slavery is the punitive result of evil acts in a previous life, so in order to be born into a better life, one must accept suffering, exploitation and humiliation, to act like a saint in this life instead of fighting for one's rights.


qwerty, excerpts from you second link:
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The Western Shugden Society (WSS) is an international coalition of Buddhist practitioners who engage in traditional prayers to Dharma Protector Dorje Shugden. This practice has been banned by the Dalai Lama for political reasons and in violation of basic human rights and constitutional law. Enforcement of this ban by his Tibetan government has resulted in intensive persecution and discrimination of Shugden practitioners worldwide, including in Western countries. This action has created a deep schism in the Buddhist community and is endangering the purity of the Buddhist religion.

The aims of the WSS are therefore:

To free practitioners who rely upon the enlightened deity Dorje Shugden and their families from suffering;
To restore peace and harmony between Shugden and non-Shugden practitioners;
To re-establish the common spiritual activities of Shugden and non-Shugden practitioners in Tibetan monasteries;
To free Buddhism from pollution by politics.


The hypocrisy of the Dalai Lama and the Gelugpa sect is clearly illustrated by the above quote. The Dalai Lama banned another Buddhist sect for fear of their challenging the Gelugpa doctrines in exactly the same way, the Gelugpa sect has been unseated in Tibet by the PRC. Greater Tibet was liberated from slavery and serfdom of the Dalai Lama sect. It had no place in modern history and I am glad it is gone.
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post May 29 2011, 10:14 PM
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QUOTE (elleX0 @ May 29 2011, 10:15 AM) *
qwerty, excerpts from you second link:


The hypocrisy of the Dalai Lama and the Gelugpa sect is clearly illustrated by the above quote. The Dalai Lama banned another Buddhist sect for fear of their challenging the Gelugpa doctrines in exactly the same way, the Gelugpa sect has been unseated in Tibet by the PRC. Greater Tibet was liberated from slavery and serfdom of the Dalai Lama sect. It had no place in modern history and I am glad it is gone.



What the PRC can do is to ensure that Tibet develops into a relatively normal and stable region, with lots of opportunities and social mobility for Tibetans in China. Outside of China, there is little any one can do, except to occasionally refute lies, eg. the 1.2 million GENOCIDE whopper by the Dalai Lama, when the census showed 1.2million plus Tibetans alive in the 1950s. eek.gif embarassedlaugh.gif
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QUOTE (qwerty2010 @ May 30 2011, 04:14 AM) *
What the PRC can do is to ensure that Tibet develops into a relatively normal and stable region, with lots of opportunities and social mobility for Tibetans in China. Outside of China, there is little any one can do, except to occasionally refute lies, eg. the 1.2 million GENOCIDE whopper by the Dalai Lama, when the census showed 1.2million plus Tibetans alive in the 1950s. eek.gif embarassedlaugh.gif


qwerty, I agree, some of the naive propaganda put out by the Dharamsala clique is so absurd that it makes them out to be a laughing stock. This is why I have co0me to the conclusion that the DL does not have a very high intelligence. Imagine trying to convince the PRC that "Autonomy" is not the same as "Independence" or total sovereignty? And he cannot seem to get out of that loop.

I believe the PRC have been sincere and genuine in wanting to bring political stability, economic wealth, and a much better standard of living for the indigenous people of Tibet. But Tibet, being a very mountainous, and inaccessible part of the world will have limitations to how they can develop or industrialise. But within those limitations, I feel certain that the PRC will pump in a larger percentage of investments into Tibet than to other provinces in China, even if it is to save face. In this respect, Tibetans will be more previleged than most other Chinese citizens for the next to generations. I am looking forward to independent and critical evaluation of life in Tibet in the near future. I wonder why there is so little information coming out of Free Tibet, especially from the indigenious Tibetan themselves because I am sure the books will be a roaring success.
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