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[doggyji]

^ I see one SHINee fan right there. I like "Replay"'s instrumental arrangement just fine.
I read Big Bang has a plan to have concerts in Europe this year, working with Live Nation.
I like 2NE1, too. R&B tunes like "It Hurts" and "Lonely" are gems and "Fire" will be remembered as a classic upbeat K-pop tune down the road.

[2010][MV] 2NE1 "아파" (It Hurts)
[2011][MV] 2NE1 "Lonely"

This is the original Bobby Kim song with Yoon Mi Rae (Tasha).

[2004][MV] Bobby Kim feat. Yoon Mi Rae "It's Alright. It's All Good"

Have you listened to her before? A couple of recommended songs here

Se7en - When I Can't Sing
Se7en - Somebody Else Is it me, or does this song lack power? When he sing 'nobody else' he should make that run last longer and sing to a highter note

I guess it's meant to be that way. Pretty easy on the ear. Check out Se7en's debut song if you haven't.

[2003][MV] Se7en "와줘" (Please come back)

..I heard this on the radio?!
B.A.P. - Warrior

This song is jamming!! I don't like the concept that they all bleached their hair in the MV. blond equals warrior? Heck, black hair is more scarier/warrior like to me..

Did you hear it on some European radio? Maybe BAP stands for "Blondes Are Powerful" like Goku lol I want the bunny helmet.



Kim Gun Mo is a big name from the 90s. This song has been remade many times.

[1995][Audio] Kim Gun Mo "아름다운 이별" (Beautiful farewell)

I put many songs I post here in this index. You may find some new songs you like.

This post has been edited by doggyji: Feb 11 2012, 03:20 AM

[Sumpit]

^ I see one SHINee fan right there. I like "Replay"'s instrumental arrangement just fine.
LOL.. Put a sock in it Doggyji! At 1st I thought they were more gay than Ricky Martin, but then I watched closely to their dancing skills and they're off the hook, all in sync like MJ level. Then I listened carefully to their songs I was astonished that they are really nice to hear lol oh butt fu-k it they're good (#shame) they still look like pretty girls though

I like 2NE1, too. R&B tunes like "It Hurts" and "Lonely" are gems and "Fire" will be remembered as a classic upbeat K-pop tune down the road.
Dara <3 I like Clap Your Hands, Follow Me, Can't Nobody and I Am the Best!

This is the original Bobby Kim song with Yoon Mi Rae (Tasha).

[2004][MV] Bobby Kim feat. Yoon Mi Rae "It's Alright. It's All Good"

Like! ----->download!

I guess it's meant to be that way. Pretty easy on the ear. Check out Se7en's debut song if you haven't.
Yeah I dunno, I get annoyed with it. Feels like if it's unfinished work.
Yup I know Se7ens debut song.. He's the 1st Korean artist that I liked when the 'Korean Wave' caught me in 2004 or 2003. I Also have one of his albums :P and I wanted to copy his fashion style in his 'Hikari' video, but unfortunately, it didn't suit me!

I want the bunny helmet.
Me too! It's the bomb!! It does looks very Satanic lol

Clicking through the related videos, I came across this one:
EXO - What is Love? I love this song! the musical arrangement is superb, gives a nice vibe to the song but I prefer the Chinese version, dunno why.
Hmm after googling, I found out that Ted Riley collaborated with this group.. figures that awesome sound! Dammit, can't Ted Riley work in Indo for a while??? Jealousy is a b¡tch.



edit:

Sad sad sad day today! Whitney Houston (48) has passed away!
Forever be missed, thank you for being a part of shaping so many artists, and others

This post has been edited by Sumpit: Feb 12 2012, 03:38 AM

[UnknownUser]

No comparison. The studio was very lively. I'm amazed by the French Sones shouting fan chants in Korean. "지금은 소녀시대, 앞으로도 소녀시대, 영원히 소녀시대!"

In this case, not only atmosphere of the studio but also sound, stage setting of the French one look more cool and fancy than American one (but their camera angle/skill is not good..)

And yes, it seems that not only Asian fans but also Western fans have been sharing Korean teens fan culture now. i hope they only learn good ones from Korean teens, not some immature fandom ones lol (though that's just case of minority)

Here's English subtitles version one

SNSD's 1st Live on French TV (English sub)

Thai fans are preparing events for the concert.

Thai Sones Fighting!

Those two songs are awesome! man, ROK was even good back then with the whole music scene?!

I guess no small number of Koreans who had experienced 90's Korean pop music scene would think 1990's one was more renaissance than 2000's one in term of diversity, catchy melody songs, meaningful lyrics, etc..

Of course, after-2000 Korean music scene has been more developed technically and has been much more well known abroad through development of social media such as youtube. but i think there are also many regressions in nowaday Korean pop musics in term of quality in many meanings.

This is similar to American case. i personally think there were more catchy tunes songs in 90's than todays in US pop music scene. the majority of US pop songs that i like are 90's ones. and also Europe is the same. 80's-90's Euro-pop was much more renaissance than today (i remember we talked about this kinds of topic in other thread before )

I guess this kinds of Korean music scene's case is not the only one in Asia?

This post has been edited by UnknownUser: Feb 12 2012, 01:57 AM

[doggyji]

LOL.. Put a sock in it Doggyji! At 1st I thought they were more gay than Ricky Martin, but then I watched closely to their dancing skills and they're off the hook, all in sync like MJ level. Then I listened carefully to their songs I was astonished that they are really nice to hear lol oh butt fu-k it they're good (#shame) they still look like pretty girls though

It's rare for guys to like a boy group at first sight. You just slowly get to realize they actually know what they are doing if they are good. What I've found interesting is that popular girl groups have so many female fans as well as male fans whereas most boy groups are almost totally dependent on fangirls. Guys occasionally listen to boy groups if there are good songs but they don't follow the idols. On the other hand, popular girl groups have many dedicated fangirls. Many girl group fan forum administrators are female.

Two female veteran vocalists that I like.

[1995][Live] Lee Sora "처음 느낌 그대로" (Just like the first feeling)
[1988][Live] Lee Sun Hee "나 항상 그대를" (I always...you)

This channel has lots of old Korean pop songs from the 90s.

pops8090

While I can find many good lyrical ballad and folk songs from that era, I'm happy with rock and electronic music since 2000 with the wave of new bands. The total number of dance pop songs produced now in Korea is much higher than back then. We are just more likely to hear crappy songs as well as catchy tunes. There are some fans who are already nostalgic about K-pop circa 2007. This always happens.

Some performances from the last week's episode of SBS "Survival Audition K-Pop Star". Park Jimin is getting lots of attention. She's still 15 years old and we don't know how talented she will grow up to be.

[Audition] Park Jimin " I Believe I Can Fly"
[Audition] Baek Ayeon "Be Be Your Love"
[Audition] Lee Hai "너를 위해" (For you)

From this week's episode,



[Audition] Baek Ayeon "하루하루" (Day by day) (Big Bang's song. She got a ticket to perform on the live stage. I've been supporting her all along.)
[Audition] Lee Michel "그대의 향기" (Your scent) (Classic ballad from SM composer Yoo Young Jin. She's one powerful vocalist but she had a terrible throat condition. BoA was upset she couldn't take good care of herself. She still managed to get in the final top 10.)

SNSD finished their concert in Bangkok. Thai fans holding signs that say "785 days of waiting".



This post has been edited by doggyji: Feb 12 2012, 03:01 PM

[Sumpit]

I guess this kinds of Korean music scene's case is not the only one in Asia?

Ha! Well.... *blank*
USA is copying what Europe did back in the 90's/early 2000's. I've seen it already. It's good for dance/techno/electro acts (it's improving), but sadly it's destroying the hiphop and r&b world. Bring back the New Jack Swing era!!!

It's rare for guys to like a boy group at first sight. You just slowly get to realize they actually know what they are doing if they are good. What I've found interesting is that popular girl groups have so many female fans as well as male fans whereas most boy groups are almost totally dependent on fangirls. Guys occasionally listen to boy groups if there are good songs but they don't follow the idols. On the other hand, popular girl groups have many dedicated fangirls. Many girl group fan forum administrators are female.

Well thanks for clearing that out! Hmm I'm not ashamed to admit that I did kinda like 'N Sync's songs from their 3rd and 4th album lmao. You have to agree that they were good haha. Of course I would never idolize boybands not do I follow them, whichever country they're from
Problem is with these girlbands is that they're all just dolls, no personality and I can't effin relate to what they're singing or dancing!
"[All] Girls bring the boys out
[Yuri] I wanna dance right now
We can show 'em how the girls get down" lol.
Well the plus point is that they're usually hot and are able to sing.

[doggyji]

Problem is with these girlbands is that they're all just dolls, no personality and I can't effin relate to what they're singing or dancing!
"[All] Girls bring the boys out
[Yuri] I wanna dance right now
We can show 'em how the girls get down" lol.
Well the plus point is that they're usually hot and are able to sing.

That is just one type of their repertoire. One thing about popular idols is that you get to know them from various angles through numerous TV shows. They are not just dolls on stage any more after you've seen them for hours and hours on TV. The notorious enthusiasm of Sones don't just come from SNSD's "doll-like" image.

Have you listened to these songs?

[FMV] SNSD "영원히 너와 꿈꾸고싶다" (Forever)
[Live] SNSD "Born To Be A Lady"
[Live] SNSD "Dear Mom"

Compilation of "Complete" from Asia Tour. One of my favorite songs.



[Live] SNSD "Complete" in Seoul
[Live] SNSD "Complete" in Tokyo
[Fancam] SNSD "Complete" in Shanghai
[Fancam] SNSD "Complete" in Taipei
[Fancam] SNSD "Complete" in Singapore
[Fancam] SNSD "Complete" in HongKong
[Fancam] SNSD "Complete" in Bangkok

I love this Taeny performance in this tour. So much energy and interaction. The duo deserves their own duet songs.
[Cover] Taeyeon + Tiffany "Lady Marmalade"

Btw, N'Sync was good.

This post has been edited by doggyji: Feb 13 2012, 09:20 AM

[chiuchimu]

That is just one type of their repertoire. One thing about popular idols is that you get to know them from various angles through numerous TV shows. They are not just dolls on stage any more after you've seen them for hours and hours on TV. The notorious enthusiasm of Sones don't just come from SNSD's "doll-like" image.

TV is becoming an important popularity point in Kpop these days?

[doggyji]

RIP, Whitney Houston.

TV is becoming an important popularity point in Kpop these days?

TV show appearance alone won't get them the top popularity but it definitely helps as long as it's backed up by their stage skills and catchy songs. In this age of pop idol saturation, they have to get themselves known via various channels. Even if you are already popular, TV shows help you stay relevant to the general public. On the other hand, YG artists hardly show up on variety shows yet they are also very popular.

Btw, have you seen this? K-ON real-life version! Maeda looks cool.

[2012][Live] AKB48 "Give Me Five"

[Sumpit]

That is just one type of their repertoire. One thing about popular idols is that you get to know them from various angles through numerous TV shows. They are not just dolls on stage any more after you've seen them for hours and hours on TV. The notorious enthusiasm of Sones don't just come from SNSD's "doll-like" image.

Have you listened to these songs?

Kinda like American Idol (or any other star seach tv shows). You see/hear the artist way too much, also on a personal level. You easily get bored with them once they're out of the contest. There's no mystery left about the artist. It's like you know already everything about them. -__-

No I have not listened to those songs (yet) I kind of despise SNSD after they dropped their single 'Nobody'. And all those weird South East Asians were making gay parodies on youtube
I mean wtf.. only girls can pull that dance off! XD

Yes RIP Whitney!!
To keep it in the Korean spirit: Daeho & Lee-Nu - I Have Nothing

Marvin Gaye - Abraham, Martin & John Should add the name Whitney to that list
Memoring Miss Houston Jesus Loves Me (live)
Sad I haven't seen her live in concert.. I've seen CeCe in concert though, hope she'll make a good song for her best friend

[lite]

so who currently is the most popular male and female singer/group in korea?

[doggyji]

Kinda like American Idol (or any other star seach tv shows). You see/hear the artist way too much, also on a personal level. You easily get bored with them once they're out of the contest. There's no mystery left about the artist. It's like you know already everything about them. -__-

You want them to remain "mysterious"? "American Idol" is not a good comparison. Korean TV appearance is not one-dimensional. You see them on dramas/sitcoms, talk shows in different styles, Karaoke shows, game/sport shows, farming, babysitting, virtual dating, mentoring, camping, modelling, etc. over the past 4~5 years. There have been many fun moments.

No I have not listened to those songs (yet) I kind of despise SNSD after they dropped their single 'Nobody'. And all those weird South East Asians were making gay parodies on youtube
I mean wtf.. only girls can pull that dance off! XD

SNSD dropped their single "Nobody"? It's Wonder Girls' song lol You obviously don't know much about them.

so who currently is the most popular male and female singer/group in korea?

This week, Se7en is doing good. For male singers, I don't think there's any dominant top. It just depends on who's promoting at the moment. For female singers, SNSD and IU are very popular. I read SNSD is quite famous for a foreign group in China, too. I haven't seen the 2011 charts yet.





What Chinese language singer is getting the most spotlight in China these days?

This post has been edited by doggyji: Feb 13 2012, 05:37 AM

[Sumpit]

You want them to remain "mysterious"? "American Idol" is not a good comparison. Korean TV appearance is not one-dimensional. You see them on dramas/sitcoms, talk shows in different styles, Karaoke shows, game/sport shows, farming, babysitting, virtual dating, mentoring, camping, modelling, etc. over the past 4~5 years. There have been many fun moments.

SNSD dropped their single "Nobody"? It's Wonder Girls' song lol You obviously don't know much about them.

whoops my baaaad XD
I knew snsd was the korean abbreviation for something, I didn't know what so I thought it was the wondergirls LOL. but it is girls generation, I'm such a douche! in my previous post I quoted the lyrics from the boys song, they even sing 'girls generation lalalala' My brain wasn't working properly, my last post was at 3:30 AM hehe

not exactly mysterious, I just don't need to know everything about that nor do I want to see the artist everyday :P as long as they make good music I'm all good! it's like the term 'attention whore'. When it's too much then it's just too much, maybe it's just me, I can have a too much moment with friends that I see almost everyday lol

This post has been edited by Sumpit: Feb 13 2012, 06:21 AM

[lite]

This week, Se7en is doing good. For male singers, I don't think there's any dominant top. It just depends on who's promoting at the moment. For female singers, SNSD and IU are very popular. I read SNSD is quite famous for a foreign group in China, too. I haven't seen the 2011 charts yet.





What Chinese language singer is getting the most spotlight in China these days?

i don't follow music much, so i did a bit of research. 2 popular search engine:

baidu

male artist top 50:
http://top.baidu.com/buzz.php?p=ngeshou

zhang jie at no.1. andy lau at no.2. jay chou at no. 3 wuyuetian at no. 4.

female artist top 50:
http://top.baidu.com/buzz.php?p=ygeshou

whitney houston listed as no.1 (because she died and in the news). SNSD at no.2 . sa dingding at no. 3. faye wong at no. 4.


sogou music

overall top 100 artists
http://music.sogou.com/song/topsinger.html...030200&dp=1


1. feng huang chuan qi
2. jay chou
3. Teresa teng
4. zheng yuan


top chinese male artists ranking
http://music.sogou.com/singer/allsinger_zm...010300&dr=1

top chinese female artists ranking
http://music.sogou.com/singer/allsinger_zf...010300&dr=1

top chinese group ranking
http://music.sogou.com/singer/allsinger_zb...010300&dr=1

top korean + japanese male artists ranking
http://music.sogou.com/singer/allsinger_jmr.html

top korean + japanese female artists ranking
http://music.sogou.com/singer/allsinger_jfr.html

top korean + japanese group ranking
http://music.sogou.com/singer/allsinger_jb...010300&dr=1

This post has been edited by lite: Feb 13 2012, 07:02 AM

[doggyji]

^Thanks for the links. It seems Jay Chou is always on top. And wow, Teresa Teng is still on that top list. Is it like an "all-time" list?

Whoops my baaaad XD
I knew snsd was the korean abbreviation for something, I didn't know what so I thought it was the wondergirls LOL. but it is girls generation, I'm such a douche! in my previous post I quoted the lyrics from the boys song, they even sing 'girls generation lalalala' My brain wasn't working properly, my last post was at 3:30 AM hehe

You've been confused all this time? lol Wonder Girls have five members. SNSD has nine. I can offer you "K-pop Girl Groups 101"

소녀시대
少女時代
SNSD
So Nyeo(Nyuh) Shi Dae
Soshi
Shao Nu Shi Dai (Chinese pronunciation)
Shou Jo Ji Dai (Japanese pronunciation)
Girls' Generation (Official English name)
GG

Same things.
The videos I posted above are ballads. Check them out when you have time. I chose good videos.
Compare these two MVs below. Totally different stage concepts.

[2007][MV] SNSD "Kissing You"
[2010][MV] SNSD "Run Devil Run"

You can imagine the gap between those who just got to know about SNSD through "The Boys" and those long-time fans who've seen it all.

not exactly mysterious, I just don't need to know everything about that nor do I want to see the artist everyday :P as long as they make good music I'm all good! it's like the term 'attention whore'. When it's too much then it's just too much, maybe it's just me, I can have a too much moment with friends that I see almost everyday lol

It's only a few hours per week actually. Can't satisfy everyone!

This post has been edited by doggyji: Feb 13 2012, 07:27 AM

[lite]

i don't follow music much, so i did a bit of research. 2 popular search engine:

baidu

male artist top 50:
http://top.baidu.com/buzz.php?p=ngeshou

lol, i just found Adele is listed as male artist.

[doggyji]

baidu

female artist top 50:
http://top.baidu.com/buzz.php?p=ygeshou

whitney houston listed as no.1 (because she died and in the news). SNSD at no.2 . sa dingding at no. 3. faye wong at no. 4.

sogou music

top korean + japanese group ranking
http://music.sogou.com/singer/allsinger_jb...010300&dr=1

That's pretty good interest in SNSD. I guess there is something for SNSD that clicks well with the Sinosphere. I'm curious what indicators Sogou music use to make the ranking.

lol, i just found Adele is listed as male artist.

Ouch. She looks a bit manly at times lol

This post has been edited by doggyji: Feb 13 2012, 10:11 AM

[Sumpit]

^Thanks for the links. It seems Jay Chou is always on top. And wow, Teresa Teng is still on that top list. Is it like an "all-time" list?

You can imagine the gap between those who just got to know about SNSD through "The Boys" and those long-time fans who've seen it all.

You can't mess with Jay Chou!! Best artist from Taiwan yo! Khalil Fong from Hong Kong is better than Jay though. btw I have a friend who's member of a doll like girlband in Taiwan :P
Wow I can imagine.. that gap is just like Fin.K.L. LOL
From Pride

to Now

Imho.. songs from White & Special are just crap hehehe the other albums are great ^^
Oh and I do know that the WG did a remake from "Now"
Btw, the actor in the original mv "Now", he looks so familiar, who is he?

[lite]

That's pretty good interest in SNSD. I guess there is something for SNSD that clicks well with the Sinosphere. I'm curious what indicators Sogou music use to make the ranking.

play count, and download count. sogou music is one of the largest music portal in china, and possibly in the world. you can search just about any song in the world on it.

they also have this "music box" online music player which is very popular and a lot of people use it to listen to music online.

[chiuchimu]

Btw, have you seen this? K-ON real-life version! Maeda looks cool.

[2012][Live] AKB48 "Give Me Five"

Links already down.
It's OK I already got the PV downloaded a few days ago.
Acchans cool but Yukirin is really cranking on the drums!

[doggyji]

SM Choreographer Shim Jae Won released an old video of SNSD practicing "Chocolate Love". No close-up = full view on the choreography.

SNSD practicing "Chocolate Love" choreography


Some cool dance cover by Pohang middle school girls.

[Dance cover] "Run the World" + "The Boys"


An old teen magazine named SNSD from 1983. "How do you make a baby?"

btw I have a friend who's member of a doll like girlband in Taiwan :P

What group?

Btw, the actor in the original mv "Now", he looks so familiar, who is he?

Jo In Sung. He's a famous actor.

play count, and download count. sogou music is one of the largest music portal in china, and possibly in the world. you can search just about any song in the world on it.

they also have this "music box" online music player which is very popular and a lot of people use it to listen to music online.

I see. I guess they use the total accumulated counts so far. "Gee" is still No. 1 for SNSD! "Telepathy" is pretty high for some reason.

Links already down.
It's OK I already got the PV downloaded a few days ago.
Acchans cool but Yukirin is really cranking on the drums!

It was a performance on CDTV. Yukirin's a boss.



This post has been edited by doggyji: Feb 15 2012, 06:14 PM