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Chinese Movies and C-Pop Thread, Let's take a break here from the politics
qwerty2010
post Jul 3 2011, 12:18 PM
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QUOTE (InitialDJay @ Jul 2 2011, 12:02 AM) *
hey gwenty, since you like chinese politics talk... have you watch 建黨偉業?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzhJC0lQCXs



Ha, you're mistaken, I'm interested in geopolitics, more like strategies, even warring strategies, not power politics, which is about personal power and eliminating one's rivals. This film looks like it is about the power figures and their cult status, as well as the ruthless politics at that time in China. I actually dislike most politicians, eg. Mao and Chiang - they are all about their own power, wealth and position. They are cunning, cold-blooded and extremely vicious, that is all. If there's someone from that period I find quite fascinating, it is Lin Biao, 林彪. Yes, I know he is wrongfully treated as part of the "Gang of Four" clique by Deng, but he had a major split with Mao, and his latter years are all about self-preservation, especially as Mao eliminated his comrades and rivals one by one.

His early military career is brilliant, like a modern Zhu Ge Liang - he not only predicted the Sino-Japanese wars, he defeated the Japanese Army in his early 20s, routed the Nationalists (Chiang called him "Demon of War") and correctly predicted several moves by Hitler, including the crossing of the Maginot and the mobilization against Russia. The Russians did not believe him and paid dearly, and they seeked his opinion thereafter. If only the Allieds had seeked his advice against Nazi Germany, instead, he is unacceptable because he's a Red.

Mao really valued his strategic advice, which won the Communists many victories, but also at the expense of a lot of Chinese lives. Lin correctly analyzed Mao's character and predicted his moves, including Mao's move to eliminate him, and almost had Mao killed instead!

http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%9E%97%E5%BD%AA

It is amazing that his daughter vowed to clear his name, and to this day, his role in history is still controversial, yet he is undoubtedly one of the most brilliant strategists in Chinese history. The truth of Lin's story is what I would find fascinating, not the ruthless power-mongering and vainglorious self-elevation of these big historic characters.
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post Jul 3 2011, 10:41 PM
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QUOTE (qwerty2010 @ Jul 4 2011, 01:18 AM) *
Ha, you're mistaken, I'm interested in geopolitics, more like strategies, even warring strategies, not power politics, which is about personal power and eliminating one's rivals. This film looks like it is about the power figures and their cult status, as well as the ruthless politics at that time in China. I actually dislike most politicians, eg. Mao and Chiang - they are all about their own power, wealth and position. They are cunning, cold-blooded and extremely vicious, that is all. If there's someone from that period I find quite fascinating, it is Lin Biao, 林彪. Yes, I know he is wrongfully treated as part of the "Gang of Four" clique by Deng, but he had a major split with Mao, and his latter years are all about self-preservation, especially as Mao eliminated his comrades and rivals one by one.

His early military career is brilliant, like a modern Zhu Ge Liang - he not only predicted the Sino-Japanese wars, he defeated the Japanese Army in his early 20s, routed the Nationalists (Chiang called him "Demon of War") and correctly predicted several moves by Hitler, including the crossing of the Maginot and the mobilization against Russia. The Russians did not believe him and paid dearly, and they seeked his opinion thereafter. If only the Allieds had seeked his advice against Nazi Germany, instead, he is unacceptable because he's a Red.

Mao really valued his strategic advice, which won the Communists many victories, but also at the expense of a lot of Chinese lives. Lin correctly analyzed Mao's character and predicted his moves, including Mao's move to eliminate him, and almost had Mao killed instead!

http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%9E%97%E5%BD%AA

It is amazing that his daughter vowed to clear his name, and to this day, his role in history is still controversial, yet he is undoubtedly one of the most brilliant strategists in Chinese history. The truth of Lin's story is what I would find fascinating, not the ruthless power-mongering and vainglorious self-elevation of these big historic characters.

that's what i mean. you still know a lot about chinese politics there. icon_wink.gif
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post Jul 4 2011, 03:19 AM
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QUOTE (InitialDJay @ Jul 3 2011, 11:41 PM) *
that's what i mean. you still know a lot about chinese politics there. icon_wink.gif



Ha, ok! I am interested in political history too, but I really dig wit and strategic intelligence. I'm the sort who grew up with detective novels, not Mills & Boons. icon_wink.gif Incidentally, if anyone knows of some interesting sources about Lin Biao or other Chinese strategists like him, let me know!

Did you see the movie? I might watch it as I think Tang Wei is a good actress.
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post Jul 5 2011, 01:21 AM
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QUOTE (qwerty2010 @ Jul 4 2011, 05:19 PM) *
Ha, ok! I am interested in political history too, but I really dig wit and strategic intelligence. I'm the sort who grew up with detective novels, not Mills & Boons. icon_wink.gif Incidentally, if anyone knows of some interesting sources about Lin Biao or other Chinese strategists like him, let me know!

Did you see the movie? I might watch it as I think Tang Wei is a good actress.

you mean modern strategists or ancients? there are a lot of them that i think are better than zhuge liang. and since you like detective work, you should watch the new movie 武俠 2011 starring my favorite action actor mr. yen and mr. kaneshiro.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GE3zb_EdkI

i haven't seen it yet. embarassedlaugh.gif don't much like movies without kung fu action. lol
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post Jul 5 2011, 01:00 PM
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Wu Xia looks interesting, a bit like last century Chinese CSI, will try to catch it. I like the actors, though I'm still trying to recover my respect for Kaneshiro after "Red Cliff".

Still undecided about 建黨偉業, the trailer isn't good at all, looks very cliched, but will wait for reviews to make up my mind.

Did you see Detective Dee? It's a pretty good thriller, with awesome martial arts and cinematography to boot. It's good entertainment:

http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/2CmT8XMJogY/

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post Jul 5 2011, 11:10 PM
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yeah, i've watched detective dee. it was kind of easy to spot out the killer. embarassedlaugh.gif kinda of expected but story kept spinning around. martial art scene is "so so". not what i call good like "14 blades".. have you seen 14 blades?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA0542mYF3M
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post Jul 6 2011, 11:18 AM
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QUOTE (InitialDJay @ Jul 6 2011, 12:10 AM) *
yeah, i've watched detective dee. it was kind of easy to spot out the killer. embarassedlaugh.gif kinda of expected but story kept spinning around. martial art scene is "so so". not what i call good like "14 blades".. have you seen 14 blades?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA0542mYF3M



Not yet, thanks for the heads up! Will watch it soon.
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post Jul 6 2011, 10:32 PM
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New songs:

江映蓉 《武装》 Great song.
武装

一百万种亲吻 -- 梁文音
一百万种亲吻

爱上了瘾 -- 胡杨林
爱上了瘾

追 -- 孙燕姿


只能想念你 -- 萧敬腾
只能想念你

大人国 -- 蔡卓妍
大人国

怕爱 官方版 -- 苏醒 Song is great,mv not so much.
怕爱

候鸟 电影<回马枪>主题曲 -- 尚雯婕
候鸟

没有你怎么办 120s版 -- 严爵
没有你怎么办

富万代--古巨基
富万代

还是朋友--梁文音
还是朋友

寓言斯朵利--魏佳庆
寓言斯朵利

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post Jul 6 2011, 10:54 PM
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Another great song that I recently found out.
弦子--醉清风
醉清风
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post Jul 7 2011, 12:03 AM
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QUOTE (DOUBLEMINT @ Jul 7 2011, 11:54 AM) *
Another great song that I recently found out.
弦子--醉清风
醉清风


good song there. she got famous after collaborate with weibo.
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post Jul 7 2011, 12:28 AM
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Romance of the Three Kingdoms is a great content for entertainment.



Red Cliff (Trailer)
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post Jul 7 2011, 12:37 AM
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QUOTE (DOUBLEMINT @ Jul 6 2011, 09:32 PM) *
New songs:

江映蓉 《武装》 Great song.
武装

一百万种亲吻 -- 梁文音
一百万种亲吻

爱上了瘾 -- 胡杨林
爱上了瘾

追 -- 孙燕姿


只能想念你 -- 萧敬腾
只能想念你

大人国 -- 蔡卓妍
大人国

怕爱 官方版 -- 苏醒 Song is great,mv not so much.
怕爱

候鸟 电影<回马枪>主题曲 -- 尚雯婕
候鸟

没有你怎么办 120s版 -- 严爵
没有你怎么办

富万代--古巨基
富万代

还是朋友--梁文音
还是朋友

寓言斯朵利--魏佳庆
寓言斯朵利

Great list! I'm in need of some good new Chinese songs.

I really like these two songs by 溫嵐. It's a few years old but very good.

同手同腳
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=274ys9RBON0

夏天的風
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEnYfb9B6Vs

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post Jul 8 2011, 05:13 AM
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I would recommend Stephen Chow movies especially the old ones. The new ones kinda just showed the old comic reliefs that he did. x)
My top faves:
Hail the Judge 九品芝麻官
Counting Weeds 算死草
Justice my Foot 審死官
All for the Win 賭聖

One classic that was produced by Wong Kar Wai (A rip-off of 東邪西毒) is Eagle-Shooting Heroes (射雕英雄傳) Funny all-star cast w/ Leslie Cheung, Joey Wong, Jacky Cheung, Bridgitt Lin, Tony Leung, Kenny Bee, Carina Lau ♥

Also, I'm trying to be biased here by recommending all movies of Jay Chou!!! x)
不能說的秘密 Secret (Directed by 周董 himself)
頭文字D Initial D
功夫灌籃 Kungfu Dunk
滿城金帶黃金甲 Curse of the Golden Flower
never mind the 刺凌, it was a bad production w/ bad cast.

Enjoy!!!
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New songs:

复制人---萧敬腾

好想对你说---萧敬腾

孩子---梁文音

单边耳机---胡宇崴

如梦令---韩庚

慢灵魂---卢广仲

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post Jul 16 2011, 11:30 PM
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where is qwerty? don't see her posting in this topic anymore?

like this song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNWLIB0akpQ...feature=related
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post Jul 17 2011, 07:39 AM
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Heeheh... 说曹操,曹操到 icon_twisted.gif

I've been traveling lots, will disappear again for a month...., yay!

Meanwhile, enjoy your mud-slinging with each other... embarassedlaugh.gif

btw, I saw 14 Blades, don't like it too much as the plot is very, very thin, a very traditional "wuxia" movie but the cinematography is nice.

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lol just wondering.. okay enjoy your vacation. i don't get to travel too often outside of this "box".
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I like 方大同
I think his songs is clear,and make people peaceful
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For Chinese movies,I like the ones of Jackie Chang's most~
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QUOTE (qwerty2010 @ Jun 17 2011, 11:05 AM) *
Yeah, she writes all her own songs, plays the guitar and arranges her own music. Great talent!


Plus Singing it. Quite a talent.
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