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The New World Order in the Context of the New Age
serenesam
post Jul 16 2011, 07:55 PM
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I think this “New World Order,” “World Government,” or whatever you want to call it is bound to happen anyways. The Dark Ones want a New World Order so they can control, manipulate, and enslave us. The Light Ones want a “New Paradigm” so that they can raise the levels of consciousness on the planet. Keep in mind that words are just words; they are used to describe things, issues, and aspects. Different respective groups have different labels and names of calling it. Instead of calling it the “New World Order,” they just call it creating a “New Paradigm.” Unification of humanity is a contributing factor in constructing this paradigm and world existence.

Some critics may suggest that the New Age Movement is part of the conspiracy in conjunction with establishing a world government. I only agree with this to a certain degree. One of the prime reasons as to why the positive extraterrestrials have yet to reveal themselves and intervene on planet Earth’s behalf is actually very simple and straightforward. Look at how humanity treats each other. Extraterrestrials cannot understand cultural differences, races, and other methods of segregation implemented by the human race. We are not measured or graded by differences in country, geographic region, and any other differential that separates one human being from another human being. We are measured as One Collective Unit as a Human Species. Some extraterrestrials feel that we are not worthy of planet Earth because of what we have done to it such as pollution and plundering the Earth. Whether or not you are a part of those groups or individuals responsible for such detrimental causes is irrelevant because we are seen as a collective group of a specific species. Now some of you may think that this has to do with ego and pride but these beings are far more advanced than we are both intellectually and technologically. In order for Earth to become recognized and accepted to the wider Galactic Community (also known as the Galactic Federation), humanity must evolve beyond its current mode of existence. When Earth has moved beyond its current third dimension, it can then see fifth dimension entities because the species are in fifth dimensional existence.

The sovereignty of individual countries must disappear, borders between countries must dissipate, warfare among nations must be eradicated, resources must be distributed equally to everyone, and unification of love, kindness, and goodness is a necessary means to evolutionary growth. In sync with the spirit realm, as the individual entity evolves into higher planes of existence, they technically do not lose their individuality but they operate and become more of an overlapping and merging existence with other beings.

Most certainly, the New Age Movement may be used by the Dark Ones to create a tyrannical hellish Earth but I believe this is part of the divine plan and everything will work out to its intended desire. Similar to all other things, one may use it for manifesting a positive or negative reality. The lines between good and evil are blurry and have no definite definitions. Whether or not we have a one world government is irrelevant to the individual mind’s intentions. Evil can still be manifested and utilized in a one system or fragmented system. Immunizations, genetically modified foods, hybrid meat, monosodium glutamate, mind control, television programming, propaganda, and various other mechanisms of control can still be applied in any system whether it be socialism, communism, fascism, corporatism, anarchosyndicalism, capitalism, etc. History has always shown us that tyrants and their respective governments always appear to act on the best interest of the average individuals but the chronological course of events have shown a difference. Research has shown that people who lie better and professionally usually end up being highly successful. Adolf Hitler could not have done everything all by himself without the support of numerous individuals including the dumb-down population. In other words, pathological liars and psychopathic control freaks will always be present regardless of what the time period and what the system is. As German philosopher Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel once said, “History…is, indeed, little more than the register of the crimes, follies, and misfortunes of mankind. But what experience and history teach is this—that peoples and governments have never learned anything from history, or acted on principles deduced from it.”

Obviously, anyone who is familiar with the New Age Movement understands that it is supposed to move beyond the current major religions for it sees the oneness of all things. One must understand that how we came to be about in the current mode of existence with regard to the various religions is because of the segregated differences of race, language, and culture. Virtually all the major religions have overlap and corruption is bound to occur due to various reasons (like wanting to establish control, a particular race being superior to another race, etc.). Between Christianity, Islam, Taoism, and Hinduism, all have a monotheistic God that is superior to all other gods. Keep in mind that some people may misinterpret an angel for a god. When I studied art history and saw the sculptures of Nike for instance, Nike is considered to be a goddess but wait a minute, Nike has wings. Is Nike a goddess or an angel?

In conclusion, I believe a new order of worldly existence will come to pass as the will of both the Light and the Dark desires this outcome. Therefore, the question should not be whether or not a world government is going to be established but rather we should examine the level of tyranny that is going to be imposed upon the people of Earth. One may argue we already have a world government; it is called the United Nations. The insane idiosyncratic paradoxical notion about all of this is that both the Light and the Dark are doing the same thing and they may not even realize it which is a New World Order. icon_smile.gif
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post Jul 17 2011, 02:14 AM
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The struggle for a new world order has been in existence since the arrival of man on this planet.
(1) The Manchus believed that they had "The Heavenly Mandate to rule." [The have died out.]
(2) The 16th century onwards, Christian Missionaries felt that they had God on their side.[Capitalism overruled them.]
(3) Adolf Hitler thought it has his turn, and failed.
(4) Stalin thought he was going to control the world, he too failed.
(5) After WWII Franklin D Roosevelt's concept of a New World Order is now manifesting USA today.
(6) PRC may replace USA.
(7) But in the murky shadows is the Caliphate, slowly gaining ground.
(8) My bets are a battle of the last two or three in 50 to 100 years hence for their New World Order, if we allow it to happen.
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post Jul 17 2011, 02:43 AM
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QUOTE (elleX0 @ Jul 17 2011, 08:14 AM) *
The struggle for a new world order has been in existence since the arrival of man on this planet.
(1) The Manchus believed that they had "The Heavenly Mandate to rule." [The have died out.]
(2) The 16th century onwards, Christian Missionaries felt that they had God on their side.[Capitalism overruled them.]
(3) Adolf Hitler thought it has his turn, and failed.
(4) Stalin thought he was going to control the world, he too failed.
(5) After WWII Franklin D Roosevelt's concept of a New World Order is now manifesting USA today.
(6) PRC may replace USA.
(7) But in the murky shadows is the Caliphate, slowly gaining ground.
(8) My bets are a battle of the last two or three in 50 to 100 years hence for their New World Order, if we allow it to happen.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/07/chicago-...-system-in.html
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post Jul 17 2011, 08:45 AM
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Conspiracy theorists tend to assume that the secret societies of the world are all negative out to reduce the population, subdue, and control them. In my heart, I do not believe that all of them are that way with a malicious intent. The phrase “secret society” implies some kind of hidden organization composed of people engaging in conversation and meetings discussing things and issues not viewable by those not a part of their club or group. My concern with the conspiracy theorists is whether or not they have covered all the secret societies currently in the present world and whether or not they are even able to do so. Names of secret societies are just like labels whose purpose is to give meaning, identification, and distinction among other things so an individual would not get confused between one thing and another thing. In my opinion, I do not believe that the conspiracy theorists have or are able to cover all the secret societies out there and I do not believe that the public or mass population can learn every single one of them.

Now let’s take a moment here and conceive a hypothetical situation. Isn’t it within the realm of possibility that there are good millionaires and billionaires out there who want to see a positive change in the world? Why do conspiracy theorists assume that every single person that is a member of those supposed groups want to control and exterminate the population? Is the average person simply just inherently negative and a have negative view of life and the world around them?

I remember reading an article about Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, Oprah Winfrey, and others getting together in a meeting to try to cap the population at 8.3 billion (http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=99105) I find it difficult to see Oprah Winfrey sitting behind closed doors discussing on how to wipe out or reduce the population. Either she is truly a nice and compassionate person or she is a master of deception making the public “think” that she is all loving and humanitarian. I don’t need to get into Bill Gates or Warren Buffet because it is obvious what the conspiracy theorists opinion is based on their documentaries. Dr. Doreen Virtue noted Oprah Winfrey as a starperson in her book Earth Angels. I have seen Oprah Winfrey on television before and I find it very difficult to see her as one of those masterminds with evil intent. Medium Browne has also noted a secret society so secret that you cannot find any information about it anywhere and this group has good and positive intent. She notes that this group may more powerful than all the supposed groups the public knows or may find out about. This is what personally drove me to come up with the “New World Order” being associated with the forces of good as well as the probability of a positive future and not evil like the assumptions of conspiracy theorists on that other thread. It is as if the forces of good want the Dark Ones to think or believe that they are building their version of a New World Order (tyrannical) but the ultimate goal is truly a positive version of a New World Order (non-tyrannical Enlightenment Age).

Therefore, it is in my opinion that the Zeitgeist Movement is also a positive movement. Many supposed elitist like Ted Turner talking about how population reduction is necessary due to carbon dioxide exhales and global warming or we are all doomed truly are a symbolic representation of evil and the dark forces (remember, plants take in carbon dioxide and when a person performs cardiopulmonary resuscitation, they are breathing out carbon dioxide unto the other person). The Zeitgeist Movement fully understands that there are many alternative ways of preserving the Earth. Channeled messages from Lightworkers.org also reveal that there are plenty of resources to sustain all 6.8 billion people on the planet and in reality, there are actually more resources tens of thousands times over at the minimum. How come we keep hearing about the scarcity of resources such as oil, water, and food? First of all, we do not really need oil. I do not see or understand why all cars can’t be electric. In terms of water, ever heard of desalination? Can’t you also boil ocean water, rain water, or even contaminated water and try to collect the steam? Isn’t the steam itself pure water? The scarcity of food is a hilarious one for me because can’t you grow your own food? Isn’t it scientifically possible to create an atmosphere where fruits and vegetables can grow despite horrible weather conditions of extreme heat or cold? Why did the White House get rid of the solar panels? Even from a non-conspiratorial perspective, it only makes sense in the business sense to try to destroy an alternative to electricity or oil because the company needs to generate profit in order to stay alive and be in business. I wonder what would happen if people were watching television and started to see the president speaking around solar panels. What kind of ideas would the public be able generate? Then maybe in their eyes, they may see a bright future and not the doom illustration portrayed by both the conspiracy theorists and some of the elitists. I believe the notion of limited resources or resources running out are just an excuse to further the agenda of the supposed evil forces. It is simply just an excuse to justify and bring in a tyrannical government.

I do wonder how the Zeitgeist Movement is being funded. Perhaps it is being funded by some unknown secret society of Light. I remember once reading about a millionaire who wrote a book on alternative sources that are exactly identical to what Peter Joseph talks about. Sorry, I do not remember his name because that was like a long time ago. Perhaps there are good secret anonymous donors who understand the importance of a one united world with no wars and the rise of a standard of living for all people on the earth.

On a more spiritual note, I do not believe that every single person working in the governments of the highest levels have bad intentions. I do believe there are good people in government who want to see a prosperous future. Whether or not you see the Zeitgeist Movement as being part of the Evil Ones or the Light Ones in the broader picture really does not matter because a one-system united collective collaborative approach is a necessary stepping stone in our evolving human consciousness anyway for all things are One and the Same. As we gained higher levels of knowledge and consciousness, we become more Creator-like and I believe we can literally create not just in our own thought processes of sending out emotions such as love and inspiration but that the creation can take on physical manifestations as well. We can literally create water, life, objects that can take on a life of its own, food, and infinite resources for everyone and everything. We become extraterrestrials. Some of the highly evolved extraterrestrials are like symbolic representations of what we will or can become. They are our future-selves. The processes of Creation are never-ending, are only ever-expanding, and there are no limits to what we can do or will do or become.

Now your physics professor or teacher may not say this but I am going to go ahead and take a huge leap into saying that matter and energy are the same thing. An atom is the smallest component of an element but it is also energy that can attach itself to other atoms to form molecules. To think is also energy. To think is also to create. To create is energy. When you send out thoughts of love to another person, that in of itself an act of creation. The other person receives it and can feel it. When you send out thoughts generally, that too is also an act of creation. You are not only creating your own reality but you are also contributing to the creation of the broader general existence among other co-creators. Therefore, to think is synonymous to creation. We can also say that matter equals thought too. Therefore, matter, thought, energy, and creation are all the same thing. Once you understand that all things are the same and are one and are interconnected, you will see that words and labels only help us in our perception and understanding of things in the third dimension of corporeal existence. This does not mean that words, names, and labels should not exist but they have to exist in order to give meaning and explanation. Humans have to generalize and discriminate and humans have to attribute labels and judgment upon other peoples/things.

Finally, I find some expert’s concept of infinity too narrow-minded. To me, the Universe can only get bigger and expand. I do not see a contraction of all things. Once a thought is created or manifested, it cannot be undone. Those “thoughts” that have been created can take on a life of its own to create an ever-expanding existence of “thoughts.” Each “thought” is a thing and takes up space. With a never-ending existence or creation of “thought”, this can only translate to an expansion of the Universe. Even if the theory of how all things in the end will go back to the One, it is still that One in the state of expansion because the amount of space taken is still the same when it was a part and separate from the One. So this One essentially is a bigger One than the One countless back billions and billions of years ago. It is a new level of Consciousness, Being, and Existence.
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post Jul 17 2011, 09:47 AM
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serenesam, are you sure you took the right pills last night?
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post Jul 17 2011, 07:12 PM
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QUOTE (elleX0 @ Jul 17 2011, 07:47 AM) *
serenesam, are you sure you took the right pills last night?


Watch these documentaries:

Endgame: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-CrNlilZho

Fall of the Republic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VebOTc-7shU
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post Jul 18 2011, 02:49 AM
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QUOTE (serenesam @ Jul 18 2011, 01:12 AM) *
Watch these documentaries:

Endgame: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-CrNlilZho

Fall of the Republic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VebOTc-7shU

Serensam, I have not doubt that groups like the Bilderbergs, the PNAC, all have discusses a New World Order, or a World Government. All that information is can be studied on the internet. But your being carried away by this fantasy is dangerous and speculative and unrealistic.

The videos give one aspect of the conspiracy theories. Whether it could work is another question.
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post Jul 18 2011, 05:32 AM
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There are a lot of documents about this.

Some talk about Rockefeller, Templars, Economic hitmans, Asian hemisphere, corporocracy and whatsoever.

You already mentioned zeitgeist. I did enjoy the first movie and the first halve of the second movie was alright. But in the second movie they started to talk about the venus project. When they started to talk about the Venus project, they lost me. How nice the ideals are, it somehow feels like a cult to me. Here are the aims of the venus project:
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1. Realizing the declaration of the world's resources as being the common heritage of all people.

2. Transcending the artificial boundaries that currently and arbitrarily separate people.

3. Replacing money-based nationalistic economies with a resource-based world economy.

4. Assisting in stabilizing the world’s population through education and voluntary birth control.

5. Reclaiming and restoring the natural environment to the best of our ability.

6. Redesigning cities, transportation systems, agricultural industries, and industrial plants so that they are energy efficient, clean, and able to conveniently serve the needs of all people.

7. Gradually outgrowing corporate entities and governments, (local, national, or supra-national) as means of social management.

8. Sharing and applying new technologies for the benefit of all nations.

9. Developing and using clean renewable energy sources.

10. Manufacturing the highest quality products for the benefit of the world’s people.

11. Requiring environmental impact studies prior to construction of any mega projects.

12. Encouraging the widest range of creativity and incentive toward constructive endeavour.

13. Outgrowing nationalism, bigotry, and prejudice through education.

14. Eliminating elitism, technical or otherwise.

15. Arriving at methodologies by careful research rather than random opinions.

16. Enhancing communication in schools so that our language is relevant to the physical conditions of the world.

17. Providing not only the necessities of life, but also offering challenges that stimulate the mind while emphasizing individuality rather than uniformity.

18. Finally, preparing people intellectually and emotionally for the changes and challenges that lie ahead.




Don't get me wrong, i do like their ideas, but it is so surreal.
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post Jul 18 2011, 05:43 AM
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Aldous Huxley already depicted all that in the last century in his book Brave New World.

What's so new about all these movements?
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Why Socialism According to Einstein

* Modern anthropology has taught us, through comparative investigation of so-called primitive cultures, that the social behavior of human beings may differ greatly, depending upon prevailing cultural patterns and the types of organisation which predominate in society. It is on this that those who are striving to improve the lot of man may ground their hopes: human beings are not condemned, because of their biological constitution, to annihilate each other or to be at the mercy of a cruel, self-inflicted fate.

* The owner of the means of production is in a position to purchase the labor power of the worker. By using the means of production, the worker produces new goods which become the property of the capitalist. The essential point about this process is the relation between what the worker produces and what he is paid, both measured in terms of real value. In so far as the labor contract is free what the worker receives is determined not by the real value of the goods he produces, but by his minimum needs and by the capitalists' requirements for labor power in relation to the number of workers competing for jobs. It is important to understand that even in theory the payment of the worker is not determined by the value of his product.

* I have now reached the point where I may indicate briefly what to me constitutes the essence of the crisis of our time. It concerns the relationship of the individual to society. The individual has become more conscious than ever of his dependence upon society. But he does not experience this dependence as a positive asset, as an organic tie, as a protective force, but rather as a threat to his natural rights, or even to his economic existence. Moreover, his position in society is such that the egotistical drives of his make-up are constantly being accentuated, while his social drives, which are by nature weaker, progressively deteriorate. All human beings, whatever their position in society, are suffering from this process of deterioration. Unknowingly prisoners of their own egotism, they feel insecure, lonely, and deprived of the naive, simple, and unsophisticated enjoyment of life. Man can find meaning in life, short and perilous as it is, only through devoting himself to society.

* The economic anarchy of capitalist society as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of the evil. We see before us a huge community of producers the members of which are unceasingly striving to deprive each other of the fruits of their collective labor — not by force, but on the whole in faithful compliance with legally established rules.

* I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals.

* Nevertheless, it is necessary to remember that a planned economy is not yet socialism. A planned economy as such may be accompanied by the complete enslavement of the individual. The achievement of socialism requires the solution of some extremely difficult socio-political problems: how is it possible, in view of the far-reaching centralisation of political and economic power, to prevent bureaucracy from becoming all-powerful and overweening? How can the rights of the individual be protected and therewith a democratic counterweight to the power of bureaucracy be assured?

* Clarity about the aims and problems of socialism is of greatest significance in our age of transition. Since, under present circumstances, free and unhindered discussion of these problems has come under a powerful taboo, I consider the foundation of this magazine to be an important public service.
o Referring to the Monthly Review, in which the essay was published.

Source: http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein
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post Jul 18 2011, 07:16 AM
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QUOTE (DEL @ Jul 18 2011, 03:32 AM) *
You already mentioned zeitgeist. I did enjoy the first movie and the first halve of the second movie was alright. But in the second movie they started to talk about the venus project. When they started to talk about the Venus project, they lost me. How nice the ideals are, it somehow feels like a cult to me.


Watch the third movie. I actually think the third one is better than both the first one and the second one. icon_smile.gif
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post Jul 18 2011, 10:08 AM
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^ You are obviously a democrat?? embarassedlaugh.gif
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post Jul 18 2011, 11:12 AM
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QUOTE (tangawizi @ Jul 18 2011, 08:08 AM) *
^ You are obviously a democrat?? embarassedlaugh.gif


Actually, I am a libertarian

http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz

Personal Issues
Government should not censor speech, press, media, or internet. - Agree
Military service should be voluntary. There should be no draft. - Agree
There should be no laws regarding sex for consenting adults. - Agree
Repeal laws prohibiting adult possession and use of drugs. - Agree
There should be no National ID card. - Disagree
Economic Issues
End "corporate welfare." No government handouts to business. - Agree
End government barriers to international free trade. - Agree
Let people control their own retirement; privatize Social Security. - Maybe
Replace government welfare with private charity. - Disagree
Cut taxes and government spending by 50% or more. - Maybe
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post Jul 19 2011, 05:19 AM
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QUOTE (serenesam @ Jul 18 2011, 05:12 PM) *
Actually, I am a libertarian

http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz

Personal Issues
Government should not censor speech, press, media, or internet. - Agree
Military service should be voluntary. There should be no draft. - Agree
There should be no laws regarding sex for consenting adults. - Agree
Repeal laws prohibiting adult possession and use of drugs. - Agree
There should be no National ID card. - Disagree
Economic Issues
End "corporate welfare." No government handouts to business. - Agree
End government barriers to international free trade. - Agree
Let people control their own retirement; privatize Social Security. - Maybe
Replace government welfare with private charity. - Disagree
Cut taxes and government spending by 50% or more. - Maybe

To dream can be nightmarish.
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