What would happen if South Korea government ask US to leave? Options

[BlueRay]

I am very interested about the dynamics between Korea/Japan/China, and the US. This is why I am here.

Here is a imaginary situation. We all know that Korea, and Japan are "allies" of America. What if a Japanese prime Minister plead to his people to have American bases removed from Japan. The intuitive answer would be " Of course, American is our ally. All we have to do is ask, and they( Americans) will leave". It so happens that Yukio Hatoyama did ask for the US to "leave" Japan, and the American government say "NO". Yukio also made it his priority to draw Japan closer to Korea+ China. This must really pissed off America. He resigned from "disgrace". I wonder what Koreans think about this issue. Why do you think US put so many troops in Korea, and Japan? What do you think America will do if South Korea government ask American army to leave?

[YourMuDoIsWeak]

I am very interested about the dynamics between Korea/Japan/China, and the US. This is why I am here.

Here is a imaginary situation. We all know that Korea, and Japan are "allies" of America. What if a Japanese prime Minister plead to his people to have American bases removed from Japan. The intuitive answer would be " Of course, American is our ally. All we have to do is ask, and they( Americans) will leave". It so happens that Yukio Hatoyama did ask for the US to "leave" Japan, and the American government say "NO". Yukio also made it his priority to draw Japan closer to Korea+ China. This must really pissed off America. He resigned from "disgrace". I wonder what Koreans think about this issue. Why do you think US put so many troops in Korea, and Japan? What do you think America will do if South Korea government ask American army to leave?

Their is a reason why the US Military can strike hard and fast anywhere in the world within 18 hours or less. Also Italy, Germany, Turkey, and even the UK has US troops.

Also the US Troops are their to support against possible NK attacks. Compared to how many troops were in Korea before their are very few. But of course you wouldnt know this because you have an obvious agenda dont you.

[BlueRay]

Their is a reason why the US Military can strike hard and fast anywhere in the world within 18 hours or less. Also Italy, Germany, Turkey, and even the UK has US troops.

Also the US Troops are their to support against possible NK attacks. Compared to how many troops were in Korea before their are very few. But of course you wouldnt know this because you have an obvious agenda dont you.

You just have to look at the number of troops: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_military_deployments).
US troops in Germany, Korea, and Japan are all over 10,000+, and everywhere else is less than that. I am say the word "ally" is a mistake. The power dynamic is "unequal". When the Japanese prime minster wanted to get american troops out, they forgot their "role". Japan will buy US security, because America ask. All the China bashing, and not Japan bashing from America( even tho the Japanese also own 1 Trillion t bonds) comes from the reason that america can control Japan/S Korea, and not China. America is using Korea, and Japan to control east Asia. You cannot tell me that Japan/Korea relationship with America is "equal". I am not sure what this relationship is. Perhaps you can tell me.

This post has been edited by BlueRay: Jul 18 2011, 11:58 AM

[YourMuDoIsWeak]

You just have to look at the number of troops: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_military_deployments).
US troops in Germany, Korea, and Japan are all over 10,000+, and everywhere else is less than that. I am say the word "ally" is a mistake. The power dynamic is "unequal". When the Japanese prime minster wanted to get american troops out, they forgot their "role". Japan will buy US security, because America ask. All the China bashing, and not Japan bashing from America( even tho the Japanese also own 1 Trillion t bonds) comes from the reason that america can control Japan/S Korea. You cannot tell me that Japan/Korea relationship with America is "equal". I am not sure what this relationship is. Perhaps you can tell me.

LOL. Rhetoric ahhhh sweet sweet rhetoric how I miss thy subtle caress.

This post has been edited by YourMuDoIsWeak: Jul 18 2011, 11:43 AM

[BlueRay]

LOL. Rhetoric ahhhh sweet sweet rhetoric how I miss thy subtle caress.

I can tell you are not the smartest one in your pack. I plan to ask more Koreans, and Japanese about their american "ally". Perhaps, You friends can help me.

This post has been edited by BlueRay: Jul 18 2011, 11:52 AM

[doggyji]

There are political factions in Korea that have a vested interest in making the American troops leave. There was a very visible anti-American sentiment after the tank incident in the early 2000s. It has died down in the general public. Most Koreans today probably just want to keep the status quo regarding this. They are unsure about their relationship with China and NK isn't exactly predictable. There is a general perception that the US has played a huge role in South Korea's development and security despite the dark side of history. The US has agreed to keep the number of American military personnel at about 28k and transfer wartime operational control back to South Korea in 2015. So what if American troops leave South Korea? What are the pros and cons?

[YourMuDoIsWeak]

I can tell you are not the smartest one in your pack. I plan to ask more Koreans, and Japanese about their american "ally". Perhaps, You friends can help me.

I dont need to be an uber intelligent smart body to see through your agenda.
Your trying to demonize America as an Imperialist regime.

[devils666]

I dont need to be an uber intelligent smart body to see through your agenda.
Your trying to demonize America as an Imperialist regime.

Because they are. And you have an obvious bias because you are one of the soldiers stationed in Korea.

Also, why can't the Koreans and Japanese defend themselves? Why do they have to rely on the US to defend them? N. Korea is just as close to China as S. Korea (in terms of geography), so if the N. Koreans struck China would definitely react.

[YourMuDoIsWeak]

Because they are. And you have an obvious bias because you are one of the soldiers stationed in Korea.

Also, why can't the Koreans and Japanese defend themselves? Why do they have to rely on the US to defend them? N. Korea is just as close to China as S. Korea (in terms of geography), so if the N. Koreans struck China would definitely react.

Did you fail to read my first post in which I explained that the worldwide bases of the US Military allows it to strike anywhere in the world with force in 18 hours or less?

Also the BCT of the 2nd ID is there to support the defense of SK in case of a North Korean attack.

Look, I doubt China would help NK in an assault against SK. If that happened it would be a UN Intervention. Sorry China cant take on the entire UN it would fail.

[devils666]

Did you fail to read my first post in which I explained that the worldwide bases of the US Military allows it to strike anywhere in the world with force in 18 hours or less?

Also the BCT of the 2nd ID is there to support the defense of SK in case of a North Korean attack.

Look, I doubt China would help NK in an assault against SK. If that happened it would be a UN Intervention. Sorry China cant take on the entire UN it would fail.

LOL you actually think China would attack SK? China isn't the US, delusional much? China is more afraid that NK will act foolishly. If NK ever did anything China would react counter-attack N. Korea. Because if war ever happened in Asia, only Asia would be hurt - not America or Europe.

[YourMuDoIsWeak]

LOL you actually think China would attack SK? China isn't the US, delusional much? China is more afraid that NK will act foolishly. If NK ever did anything China would react counter-attack N. Korea. Because if war ever happened in Asia, only Asia would be hurt - not America or Europe.

I said doubt.
You said if North Korea struck China would react.

[devils666]

I said doubt.
You said if North Korea struck China would react.

yeah, China would react by attacking N. Korea.

[Captain Corea]

If a democratically elected government of the ROK asked them to leave - they'd leave.

[moonbase]

LOL. If a non-racist government exists in USA, China will not harass your bases.

[YourMuDoIsWeak]

LOL. If a non-racist government exists in USA, China will not harass your bases.

As if any country in the world does not look after their own interest.
You act if China is some saint.

[aDarkTemplar]

I am very interested about the dynamics between Korea/Japan/China, and the US. This is why I am here.

Here is a imaginary situation. We all know that Korea, and Japan are "allies" of America. What if a Japanese prime Minister plead to his people to have American bases removed from Japan. The intuitive answer would be " Of course, American is our ally. All we have to do is ask, and they( Americans) will leave". It so happens that Yukio Hatoyama did ask for the US to "leave" Japan, and the American government say "NO". Yukio also made it his priority to draw Japan closer to Korea+ China. This must really pissed off America. He resigned from "disgrace". I wonder what Koreans think about this issue. Why do you think US put so many troops in Korea, and Japan? What do you think America will do if South Korea government ask American army to leave?

This lecture by an ex-CIA agent carries a wealth of information but your question is difficult because it appears likely that the Japanese government would never ask or pressure the American government to leave. One of the points admitted by ex-CIA agent is that the United States creates governments who's members are a "fraternity" who are more reliant and loyal to the United states than their own people. They owe America their position in power and if you look at the history in how Japan and South Korea were developed it is very easy to see. Both countries were created by the United States as counterweights to the Soviet Union. Japan unconditionally surrendered after the nuclear halocaust dropped by America and South Korea was funded and created by an American administration without even an inkling of Korean democratic say so of the people. The leaders of these created governments therefore must have been screened by the Americans to ensure they were loyal to the American agenda. A mini-example of this would be the moderator of this forum being the Americans and the posters the members of a government. All the moderator has to do is ban people he doesn't like and what is left are posters who parrot the moderators views. A difficult situation to change once imbedded UNLESS the moderator changes. It is a self perpetuating situation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJIC7-DnLtg...nel_video_title

Japan - U.S base.
This example shows that Okinawans wanted America out of Japan but this never happened. If Japan was a democratic government it would listen to its people.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwFrRu5AQSM...nel_video_title

If a democratically elected government of the ROK asked them to leave - they'd leave.

An interesting assertion. Why does America decide if it will listen to an alleged soverign nation's wishes or not to leave its own soil? Japan does not sound like a soverign nation in your own assertion.

Why is being a democratically elected government matter when the United States has eliminated democratically elected leaders and set up despotic ones in other peoples countries?

As if any country in the world does not look after their own interest.
You act if China is some saint.

China is hardly even mentioned here but China's racial problems do not seem as severe as America's and China has no military bases in other people's lands. I don't see anyone portraying China like a saint and all of you'r replies to this thread do not appear to address the issue at all but go off tangent about striking in 18 hours and such? Why is that? It appears as if you are defending America's projection of power into Asia. An imperialistic act is it not?

You'r statement that all countries look out for their interests is correct however is there a difference between merely looking out for you'r own interests and looking out for you'r interests by establishing permanent military bases in other people's lands?

This post has been edited by aDarkTemplar: Jul 18 2011, 06:08 PM

[Metropolitan]

As if any country in the world does not look after their own interest.
You act if China is some saint.

Yes we all know you like how your Dad fawked and sodomized your mom and couple other Korean whores. Good for Korea's "Hurry Up N Buy Whores" Mart right next to please don't burn down my place of business right on front yard.

[orange peel]

Did you fail to read my first post in which I explained that the worldwide bases of the US Military allows it to strike anywhere in the world with force in 18 hours or less?

Also the BCT of the 2nd ID is there to support the defense of SK in case of a North Korean attack.

Look, I doubt China would help NK in an assault against SK. If that happened it would be a UN Intervention. Sorry China cant take on the entire UN it would fail.

lol somebody needs to brush up on history

[YourMuDoIsWeak]

Yes we all know you like how your Dad fawked and sodomized your mom and couple other Korean whores. Good for Korea's "Hurry Up N Buy Whores" Mart right next to please don't burn down my place of business right on front yard.

Please dont bring my family into this. I would never ever poke fun at yours.
I can still see your butt hurt over the quarrel that we had earlier this year.
I already apologized for being out of line.

Both my Parents are university educated. and my mother is not a whore.
Correct your attitude attack the man not his parents.

[freezingpoint]

Did you fail to read my first post in which I explained that the worldwide bases of the US Military allows it to strike anywhere in the world with force in 18 hours or less?

Also the BCT of the 2nd ID is there to support the defense of SK in case of a North Korean attack.

Look, I doubt China would help NK in an assault against SK. If that happened it would be a UN Intervention. Sorry China cant take on the entire UN it would fail.

Yeah MacArthur said that in 1950 and guess what happened, we actually did take on the whole UN. If we can do it in 1950 we can do it in 2011. So I suggest you and your white pals in Washington to chill it otherwise we'll have a few more US flags in our war museum.