White people trying to stir up anti-chinese sentiment on liveleak Options

[Crossbow]

This isn't crime, its vigilantism. The boy committed a crime and he learnt his lesson.

[ReginaRae]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7vH0x-rGe4
Little Boy Beaten In Public.

Actually, I came across this video when the original was posted. (is now removed) And it's haunted me ever since. The description says that the boy was being used by gang members to steal things and he was caught. However I've heard from other people that he just accidentally bumped into an old woman and knocked her down. Whatever is happening here, whatever the boy did - the behavior of these people is barbaric. That's the only word I can use to describe this. I had a hard time watching and almost cried - So I'm warning you now, this video might bother you. I'd like to point out that the little boy isn't Chinese. So this might contribute a bit to the way they were treating him. If he had been Chinese I have a feeling they might have went easier on him.

On another note, this is a perfect example of how different cultures and people react to public situations. I personally think if this happened anywhere else, in most cases, someone would have probably stepped up and done something. I also believe if this happened in another country, some of these people would be charged.

Anyway, I'm not trying to troll or "bash" Chinese people. Just posting something I found shocking and wanted to know how people receive it.

[InitialDJay]

your late, someone already post this.

[ReginaRae]

Mods can close then, if need be.

[Sharky]

What do you mean by barbaric? It might seem horrifying to westerners living it up with their comfy sofa, drinking beer, and being armchair moral authority of people who live by different standards but it's perfectly fine where i'm watching it. It might be low and filthy by your standards but it's better than drugged, mugged, and lying in a street corner with a big belly and a pants with huge truck sized butt hanging out. The Chinese man just could have gotten out of a Kung Foo Academy, or could even be an instructor, and it was a light slappy, slapp - other people who are not familiar with martial arts might think bad about it for being a kick but for expert artists of the martial arts its more controlled than light slap of the hand. And look at the woman who was smiling in the end, she was satisfied with a lesson given, though she might be needing a use of a dentist, but that's not really the main point. The main lesson is that the boy wouldn't dare steal that doesn't belong to him, and its not different from any behaviors of westerners from let say 30 or 40 years ago.

[ElapsePride]

I cant finish this vid , too hard for me

I ve seen worse things done by white people but that doesn't justify these men's behavior,
the kid learnt his lesson in a hard way , I feel really bad for him

This is many people's way to teach kids not to do wrong

[fireplant]

He's a little thief that could have killed an old lady. That's just how Chinese scare little kids who got no heart. I'm sure he got his lesson and he didn't have to be whipped or stabbed or something, like the Uighurs do to Han in Xinjiang.

[faydabakery]

racists should get similar treatment and a few extra kicks to the head.

[fireplant]

^ Nah. We don't want to do that to Regina. She's a girl who has been misled.

[phop]

He's a little thief that could have killed an old lady. That's just how Chinese scare little kids who got no heart. I'm sure he got his lesson and he didn't have to be whipped or stabbed or something, like the Uighurs do to Han in Xinjiang.

I would do the same to the little boy in the video. The kid did that on purpose on that old lady trying to steal stuff, and yes I agree that it could of killed that old lady. The west should not question other cultures way of doing thing, especially with their own fu-ked up society.

[Blackdude]

Are people really that dense? An Uighur kid knocks over an elderly women to rob her. What do people expect is going to happen especially with whats going on between Hans and Uighurs? Of course the west is going to play it up, they always do. It's easy for armchair moralist to try to push there garbage about what should be and not be done. Without actually being there as a Han in china dealing with an Uighur. Personally, I think it's harsh. But, publicly humiliating thieves is a part of shame cultures like china and considering the context [Han punishing Uighur] it could have been much much worst.

This post has been edited by Blackdude: Aug 1 2011, 09:34 AM

[ReginaRae]

You are excusing this abusive behavior only because the attackers are Chinese. If a video came out of a group of lillywhite blue eyed Western guys doing this to a young Chinese boy, you all would be outraged. You're just unable to see the wrong only because you too are Chinese/Asian. Hypocrites.

And for those saying that it's really not that bad, look at what you're seeing. A group of ADULTS surrounding a scared young child, intimidating and beating him. Freaking adults. I mean, this is laughable. I don't care what the boy did, this is not a mature and reasonable response. I bet the guy in the blue shoes went home and masturbated afterwards. He probably got a charge from being able to hurt someone who's weaker and less powerful - because those are the types of people that would behave this way. Predatory type, weak minded individuals. Instead of talking to the child and telling him what he did wrong and why, or giving him a quick swat on the behind, they kick him, smash his fingers, and leave him a crying heap in the middle of the street.

Not grouping all Chinese people together based on these select few neanderthals. I know better than to make generalizations because my boyfriend is Chinese and he was upset by the video. So I'm not saying this is a "Chinese" thing. I'm saying that the actions of these people in this video is wrong.

[newties21]

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Friend I will tell you the truth.
This video is being marketed, packaged, and spread around as a flame-baiting and trolling material.

It is completely a perfectly 100% classical textbook case of a "provocation" and "stirring the pot"

It is titled wrong and it is described wrong.

There is no element of race angle, or racial attack whatsoever.

I am not clear but I highly suspect that the incident is a case of a street thief who was caught.
China is still a relatively collectivist, traditional, cohesive society in the sense that a mob can sometimes beat up a thief.

A Chinese thief, an adult, would have probably been beaten up much more severely.

In India, the caught thief might have been even burned with gasoline.

This is what happen in traditional societies.

It is not a case of racial attack whatsoever.

Now I hope people stop talking about this video, because it is pointless and does not bring any benefits or results.

This post has been edited by newties21: Aug 1 2011, 01:53 PM

[fireplant]

^ Absolutely right.

Foreigners can't read a Chinese crowd. There's no race angle at all. And people were chuckling in order to calm the kid after he started screaming, to say they're not going to seriously hurt him. Westerners read it like Nazis chuckling at Jews, but it's totally different.

Yes a Chinese mob with a couple of hot headed young guys can be very intimidating, no matter who is the target. But Chinese in the end do not lynch or kill people this way. Besides this wasn't even a mob, just a group of passers by that joined in to shame (and frighten) a thief.

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Not to get all psycho-analytic, but the kick to the head is meant to insult you to get you to behave. It's not a "small man showing his power" as Regina would portray it as. A lot of dads would kick their own kids like this. All yellow races use this kind of physical insults. It was perfectly acceptable thing to do to the crowd, and if you were there and you understood what was going on, you'd have no problems with it too. So take it easy with the "oh I'm so shocked at the barbarity" sitting in front of youtube!

This post has been edited by fireplant: Aug 1 2011, 02:59 PM

[ReginaRae]

Yes a Chinese mob with a couple of hot headed young guys can be very intimidating, no matter who is the target. But Chinese in the end do not lynch or kill people this way. Besides this wasn't even a mob, just a group of passers by that joined in to shame (and frighten) a thief.

Right. I'm sure these people are ACTUALLY mad and angry that he tried to steal something - if that's even the true back story. This is a classic example of little angry dudes faced with someone smaller and weaker, and they're taking advantage of that. Did you hear one person say anything to the boy about not stealing? Did you hear anyone say how stealing is bad? No - because it's not even about that. These guys just wanted to show the crowd how tough they were and how they're going to "handle" a thief. (mind you, the thief is like 8 years old.) Would you say the same thing if a group of white Americans did this to an 8 year old Han Chinese boy? Please, if that happened people in this thread would spontaneously combust.

Anyway, I'm done with this. Beating a dead horse.

[aDarkTemplar]

Not grouping all Chinese people together based on these select few neanderthals. I know better than to make generalizations because my boyfriend is Chinese and he was upset by the video. So I'm not saying this is a "Chinese" thing. I'm saying that the actions of these people in this video is wrong.

Well, I don't know what to think about the video. I have no idea what happened and I don't understand Chinese.

Your above statement is also backtracking and wrong. You did say if this had been anywhere else in the world these people would have been arrested and such and anywhere else in the world someone would have come to the aid of the child making your judgement for better or for worse very much something specific to the Chinese.

Right?

This post has been edited by aDarkTemplar: Aug 1 2011, 04:14 PM

[MiCC]

Right. I'm sure these people are ACTUALLY mad and angry that he tried to steal something - if that's even the true back story. This is a classic example of little angry dudes faced with someone smaller and weaker, and they're taking advantage of that. Did you hear one person say anything to the boy about not stealing? Did you hear anyone say how stealing is bad? No - because it's not even about that. These guys just wanted to show the crowd how tough they were and how they're going to "handle" a thief. (mind you, the thief is like 8 years old.) Would you say the same thing if a group of white Americans did this to an 8 year old Han Chinese boy? Please, if that happened people in this thread would spontaneously combust.

Anyway, I'm done with this. Beating a dead horse.

They are teaching him a lesson because he stole something, not because of his race, how many times do people have to get this through you thick stubborn head? if it was a han kid in the video, would you still say the same thing?

[ElapsePride]

You are excusing this abusive behavior only because the attackers are Chinese. If a video came out of a group of lillywhite blue eyed Western guys doing this to a young Chinese boy, you all would be outraged. You're just unable to see the wrong only because you too are Chinese/Asian. Hypocrites.

And for those saying that it's really not that bad, look at what you're seeing. A group of ADULTS surrounding a scared young child, intimidating and beating him. Freaking adults. I mean, this is laughable. I don't care what the boy did, this is not a mature and reasonable response. I bet the guy in the blue shoes went home and masturbated afterwards. He probably got a charge from being able to hurt someone who's weaker and less powerful - because those are the types of people that would behave this way. Predatory type, weak minded individuals. Instead of talking to the child and telling him what he did wrong and why, or giving him a quick swat on the behind, they kick him, smash his fingers, and leave him a crying heap in the middle of the street.

Not grouping all Chinese people together based on these select few neanderthals. I know better than to make generalizations because my boyfriend is Chinese and he was upset by the video. So I'm not saying this is a "Chinese" thing. I'm saying that the actions of these people in this video is wrong.

hey girl, calm down please
it's so not right to treat a little boy in such cruel and harsh way, the crowd act barbaric as it seems

however, I can guarantee you it's not because the boy is Turkish looking but because he tries to steak something, maybe has already cut some people's expensive bag open,

many people use force or violence to teach kids not to do wrong,
I hate it too because I was a victim and beaten up by grow ups when I was a kid as I stole my grandmother's money for a toy gun, the punishment was more cruel and harsh than what you see in the vid.

I'm not trying to convince you to think otherwise but people cuts off stuff out of context in order to make all Chinese people look bad,
it's indeed wrong, but what's the real story, if you think Chinese people are racist against this little boy, then you're absolutely wrong, we're not madmen.

This post has been edited by ElapsePride: Aug 1 2011, 04:42 PM

[fireplant]

Regina just keeps repeating her own mistaken ideas and cannot understand anything we say. Please don't come to Chinese chat if you don't have an open mind and an ability to understand something new.

[Blackdude]

You are excusing this abusive behavior only because the attackers are Chinese. If a video came out of a group of lillywhite blue eyed Western guys doing this to a young Chinese boy, you all would be outraged. You're just unable to see the wrong only because you too are Chinese/Asian. Hypocrites.

You might as well just call us racist, because that's pretty much what you just implied. The video is fraudulent, as in whats being said to happen is not happening I.E. chinese lynch mob beating up a kid because he's white. That's a lie, and the fact that it's being used to stir up controversy about race which you're playing along with is proof that some people want this to be about race.

Not to get all psycho-analytic, but the kick to the head is meant to insult you to get you to behave. It's not a "small man showing his power" as Regina would portray it as. A lot of dads would kick their own kids like this. All yellow races use this kind of physical insults. It was perfectly acceptable thing to do to the crowd, and if you were there and you understood what was going on, you'd have no problems with it too. So take it easy with the "oh I'm so shocked at the barbarity" sitting in front of youtube!

That's why I hate arm chair moralist, they think they can apply their own wishful fanciful ideas into real situations without actually experiencing them. It's like a virgin telling you about sex because he read it in a book.

This post has been edited by Blackdude: Aug 2 2011, 12:45 AM