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North Korea demands peace treaty with US
devils666
post Jul 27 2011, 09:04 PM
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N. Korea has asked for peace before but the US refuses to give it to them.

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SEOUL, South Korea (AP) North Korea demanded Wednesday that the United States sign a peace treaty formally ending the Korean War, as a senior North Korean diplomat visited New York to negotiate ways to restart six-nation nuclear disarmament talks.

In an editorial marking the 58th anniversary of an armistice that ended the 1950-53 war, the North's official Korean Central News Agency insisted a peace treaty could go a long way toward resolving a deadlock over Pyongyang's pursuit of nuclear weapons.

North Korea has long called for a peace treaty with the United States. The armistice left the Korean peninsula in a technical state of war. Its latest push comes as North Korean Vice Foreign Minister Kim Kye Gwan makes a fresh attempt to reopen six-nation talks that were last held in December 2008.

U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton invited Kim to New York to meet with U.S. officials later this week only after nuclear envoys from the rival Koreas held surprise talks last week.

Seoul blames North Korea for two attacks that killed 50 South Koreans last year and has demanded that Pyongyang show remorse. The United States has insisted that its ally Seoul must be satisfied that inter-Korean ties are improving before it will pursue more nuclear negotiations with Pyongyang.

Kim told reporters after landing Tuesday in New York that he was "optimistic of the prospects for the six-way talks and the North Korea-U.S. relationship," according to South Korea's Yonhap News Agency. "I believe North Korea-U.S. relations will improve, as now is the time for countries to reconcile."

Despite Kim's positive tone, North Korea is making clear ahead of the New York talks that it wants a separate dialogue on signing a peace treaty, in addition to six-nation nuclear negotiations, said Kim Keun-sik, a North Korea expert at Kyungnam University in South Korea.

North Korean Foreign Minister Pak Ui Chun told his Malaysian counterpart in Kuala Lumpur on Tuesday that Pyongyang "has always supported measures to eliminate the threat of nuclear weapons on the Korean peninsula," the Malaysian Foreign Ministry said in a statement, adding that Pak voiced "readiness to resume the six-party talks without conditions."

The six-nation talks group the two Koreas, the United States, China, Japan and Russia. They were initially designed to provide the North with security guarantees and economic assistance in return for its nuclear dismantlement.

After months of tension heightened by the North's deadly shelling of a South Korean island last November, the nuclear envoys of the two countries met in a regional security forum in Indonesia last week and agreed to push for the resumption of nuclear disarmament talks.

"The (Korean) peninsula stands at the crossroads of detente and a vicious cycle of escalation tension," North Korean media said Wednesday, likening the current cease-fire among the countries who fought in the Korean War to "a time bomb."

Blasting the United States for its involvement in the war, North Korea's central television ran footage of veterans describing their fight against enemy forces as the official media marked what it called a victory anniversary. Reports also touted the wartime activities of the country's revered founder Kim Il Sung, whose son Kim Jong Il is now ruling the country and trying to hand over power to his own son.

About 28,500 U.S. troops are stationed in South Korea as a legacy of the Korean War, in which North Korea and China fought against U.S., South Korean and U.N. forces. The North says it needs nuclear weapons because of the U.S. military presence there.

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post Jul 27 2011, 09:13 PM
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I'm all for a Peace Treaty on the peninsula - but I think the main negotiating parties should be the DPRK and the ROK.
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post Jul 27 2011, 09:18 PM
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Treaty should be between the South and the North. Unfortunately the North considers the South a "puppet state" and refusing to acknowledge them.
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post Jul 27 2011, 09:19 PM
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QUOTE (catman @ Jul 27 2011, 09:18 PM) *
Treaty should be between the South and the North. Unfortunately the North considers the South a "puppet state" and refusing to acknowledge them.

Then leave South Korea. It will be harder for North Korea to think that then wont it. Then it won't be so "unfortunate" oh wise western gentleman from Canada.

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post Jul 27 2011, 09:29 PM
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QUOTE (catman @ Jul 27 2011, 09:18 PM) *
Treaty should be between the South and the North. Unfortunately the North considers the South a "puppet state" and refusing to acknowledge them.


The North is acknowledging them right now by offering a Peace treaty. Your logic fails.

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post Jul 27 2011, 09:48 PM
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QUOTE (aDarkTemplar @ Jul 27 2011, 10:19 PM) *
Then leave South Korea. It will be harder for North Korea to think that then wont it. Then it won't be so "unfortunate" oh wise western gentleman from Canada.



Once the majority of South Koreans want that and elect a similar thinking government then it will happen.
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post Jul 27 2011, 09:51 PM
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QUOTE (catman @ Jul 27 2011, 09:48 PM) *
Once the majority of South Koreans want that and elect a similar thinking government then it will happen.


lol

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post Jul 27 2011, 11:35 PM
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QUOTE (aDarkTemplar @ Jul 28 2011, 11:51 AM) *
You white boys just love to hide behind your set up apparatus of proxy government and act like your just innocent bystanders dont you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwFrRu5AQSM
When you get out, take your trash with you. I.e- your wives and any half breeds they have excreted. They rae not Korean and never will be.



Why isn't this type of racism banned yet?
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post Jul 27 2011, 11:38 PM
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QUOTE (Captain Corea @ Jul 28 2011, 12:35 AM) *
Why isn't this type of racism banned yet?


o rly?

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post Jul 27 2011, 11:53 PM
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Kim Dae-jung and Roh Moo-hyun were taking SK on the path of a peace treaty with the north, but they were constantly sabotaged by the Americans.

Notice how Americans never need to justify why they are so hostile to this or that country, but they only need to launch a character assassination. The real motives are always revealed to be geopolitical, once you have peeled away the layers of lies.
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post Jul 28 2011, 12:02 AM
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QUOTE (Captain Corea @ Jul 28 2011, 12:35 PM) *
Why isn't this type of racism banned yet?


Quote the post, report to moderator and have some patience
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post Jul 28 2011, 12:04 AM
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QUOTE (zoopiter @ Jul 28 2011, 01:02 AM) *
Quote the post, report to moderator and have some patience


I was getting bored anyway.
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post Jul 28 2011, 12:05 AM
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QUOTE (fireplant @ Jul 28 2011, 01:53 PM) *
Kim Dae-jung and Roh Moo-hyun were taking SK on the path of a peace treaty with the north, but they were constantly sabotaged by the Americans.


Got proof?

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Notice how Americans never need to justify why they are so hostile to this or that country, but they only need to launch a character assassination. The real motives are always revealed to be geopolitical, once you have peeled away the layers of lies.


The invasion of the South and continued attacks seem to be ample justification.


Perhaps you don't give a piss about the dead soldiers here, but many do.
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post Jul 28 2011, 12:07 AM
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QUOTE (Captain Corea @ Jul 28 2011, 01:05 AM) *
Got proof?



The invasion of the South and continued attacks seem to be ample justification.


Perhaps you don't give a piss about the dead soldiers here, but many do.


lol

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post Jul 28 2011, 03:13 AM
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QUOTE (devils666 @ Jul 28 2011, 10:04 AM) *
N. Korea has asked for peace before but the US refuses to give it to them.


QUOTE (SEOUL, South Korea (AP) @ Jul 28 2011, 10:04 AM) *
Seoul blames North Korea for two attacks that killed 50 South Koreans last year and has demanded that Pyongyang show remorse. The United States has insisted that its ally Seoul must be satisfied that inter-Korean ties are improving before it will pursue more nuclear negotiations with Pyongyang.

Despite Kim's positive tone, North Korea is making clear ahead of the New York talks that it wants a separate dialogue on signing a peace treaty.


your comment seems to differ from the report you quote, which is kind of like the below example.

QUOTE (Captain Corea @ Jul 28 2011, 01:09 PM) *
are you going to prove how I'm exactly like this killer and promoting killing chinese and Communists??


QUOTE (devils666 @ Jul 28 2011, 01:21 PM) *
Oh, so you are saying that you like China and China is not a threat? Thanks. I'll remember that.


or a little better than this example.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMNry4PE93Y...feature=related

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post Jul 28 2011, 05:36 AM
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QUOTE (devils666 @ Jul 28 2011, 11:29 AM) *
The North is acknowledging them right now by offering a Peace treaty. Your logic fails.


Where in the article did you see the North acknowledging the South? The statements seem directed at the US (as usual).

I strongly believe that any peace treaty needs to have the ROK and DPRK out in front. Any other regional players should be secondary.
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post Jul 28 2011, 05:52 AM
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From that article it seems as though North thinks it's a war not between the koreas but a war between DPRK and US.
If US leaves ROK will both koreas be as one, it will take a long while until their is trust between both parties when or if a peace treaty is signed ending the war.
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post Jul 28 2011, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE (zoopiter @ Jul 28 2011, 04:13 AM) *


What else can you say to people such as Bill O'Reilly?

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QUOTE (Nostylez @ Jul 28 2011, 06:52 AM) *
From that article it seems as though North thinks it's a war not between the koreas but a war between DPRK and US.
If US leaves ROK will both koreas be as one, it will take a long while until their is trust between both parties when or if a peace treaty is signed ending the war.

The point is that NK and SK do not mutually recognize the separation of Korea into independent sovereign states. The only realistic peace treaty between them is a confederate solution, which both sides were working on before the US-supported Korean right wing derailed the process in order to support American hegemonistic interests.

A peace treaty between NK and US is what makes sense at this point, as SK and China already did in 1992. US is just using the NK-SK impasse for cover, while sabotaging realistic reconciliation behind the scenes. The US knows that NK cannot be realistically toppled through its hostile methods, it only wants to maintain tension in the region to bolster its importance in Japan and Korea and maintain a kind of sideways strangle on China through North Korea.

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post Jul 28 2011, 04:11 PM
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Again, I ask simply - why does the DPRK insist on excluding the ROK from peace negotiations?

You may not see it as important, but this nation does.
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post Jul 28 2011, 04:19 PM
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First sentence, dude.

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The point is that NK and SK do not mutually recognize the separation of Korea into independent sovereign states.
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