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Should US troops leave?
CheolSu
post Aug 14 2011, 10:10 PM
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If the American military pulled out of Korea would it improve chances of reunification?

What do you guys all think?
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post Aug 15 2011, 04:12 AM
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QUOTE (Captain Corea @ Aug 15 2011, 03:42 AM) *
Would you live under a North Korean government? I know I have no interest in living under a North Korean system of any kind and would be happy if Unification was managed wholly by the ROK.

As for the North bullying the South, perhaps the deaths of ROK citizens and soldiers matter nothing to you, but they do to me. I call it bullying when the DPRK uses force to extract concessions... I suppose you call it a 'love tap' lol


Living under the North Korean government is not the issue of this thread however any objection to living under a North Korean leadership would be due to the sanctions imposed by America. As such the issue of living under a North Korean government cannot be discussed without questioning the interference of America that effectively vetoes the ability of Koreans to decide their own fate if it aligns with interests that are not in America's agenda. To be free within the confines of America's interests may be very agreeable with you but it is not a fate I wish Koreans to suffer.

However Korea cannot ignore America. It is so far still the sole super power in the world but at least this power might be checked with a joint North Korean administration. This would ensure a more assertive Korea that is relatively more independant and also respects the independant streak of the North Koreans that the South has been lacking for some time.

As for the highly unfortunate deaths of the South Koreans, it is a direct result of Korean division instigated and forced by American interests. If we are to mention lives lost due to this American interference it is only fair to mention the thousands that have starved in North Korea under American imposed sanctions.

QUOTE (SemperFidelis @ Aug 15 2011, 03:51 AM) *
how dependent on US troops is the local economy surrounding US bases?


As far as I'm aware there is a thriving prostitute culture that thrives under the American troops. South Koreans fail to mention this while constantly talking about comfort women. The South Korean government encourages the industry to service American troops but aside from that this thread deals with a macro issue that addresses the national charachter, long term development and direction of the Korean people. A focus on the local economy seems grossly out of place to the national charachter of this discussion especially when it seems to be advocating the American presense by an Australian soldier.

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post Aug 15 2011, 09:32 AM
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QUOTE (ElegantKoreanGentleman @ Aug 15 2011, 04:12 AM) *
Living under the North Korean government is not the issue of this thread however any objection to living under a North Korean leadership would be due to the sanctions imposed by America.


You were unable to prove this under you old pseudonym.
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post Aug 15 2011, 06:13 PM
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QUOTE (catman @ Aug 15 2011, 09:32 AM) *
You were unable to prove this under you old pseudonym.


The world knows sanctions starve people and are responsible for the famine in North Korea.

If you want to go against a standard belief the onus is on you.

Sanctions ruin economies and make them poor. Political and economic isolation leads to starvation.


If you want to deny that then I'm not suprised. THe division of Korea has always attracted the most perversley minded "outsiders". Like CaptainCorea you percieve this as a little game. Horah your side must win!

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post Aug 15 2011, 06:28 PM
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QUOTE (ElegantKoreanGentleman @ Aug 16 2011, 08:13 AM) *
The world knows sanctions starve people and are responsible for the famine in North Korea.

If you want to go against a standard belief the onus is on you.

Sanctions ruin economies and make them poor. Political and economic isolation leads to starvation.



Nah, I'd say that the world views the North's structure as the main cause of its suffering.

Again, I've asked you and your previous accounts to prove how these sanctions are aimed towards the average person... and you've yet to be able to do that.
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- CheolSu   Should US troops leave?   Aug 14 2011, 10:10 PM
- - catman   QUOTE (CheolSu @ Aug 14 2011, 11:10 PM) I...   Aug 14 2011, 10:15 PM
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- - Megapower   Um... 30K dinky troops won't do much against 1...   Aug 14 2011, 11:16 PM
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- - KraterosHellas   QUOTE (CheolSu @ Aug 14 2011, 10:10 PM) I...   Aug 15 2011, 12:37 AM
|- - ElegantKoreanGentleman   Yes, they should leave. Ofcourse there are diffe...   Aug 15 2011, 12:48 AM
- - YourMuDoIsWeak   Yes lets placate the NK.... Seriously as if reunif...   Aug 15 2011, 01:53 AM
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