a lot of Asians say L instead of R.. how come?, flied lice.. hotel loom! rorrr! Options

[fivers]

it's something very common among Asians who used to speak an Asian language b4,
I find it funny and intriguing how they often say L instead of R, hihihi

[AsiaticGlory]

I know that the 'r' sound is missing in Japanese.

[Yer]

Because their native languages don't have the "r" sound.

Or maybe they do it on purpose just to mess with you.

[ElapsePride]

indian too.

[fivers]

I know that the 'r' sound is missing in Japanese.

hmm aren't there words like "sayonara, arigato, hara-kiri" where the 'r' is pronounced...?

Because their native languages don't have the "r" sound.

Or maybe they do it on purpose just to mess with you.

aww I hope not hihi

indian too.

I didn't know that...

[SkyBurial]

hmm aren't there words like "sayonara, arigato, hara-kiri" where the 'r' is pronounced...?

The "r"s are pronounced sort of like a "d". That's the only example I could think of atm. The "l" sound, however, is missing from the Japanese language. So when it is pronounced, usually the "r"s replaces it.

When you pronounce the "r", softly flick your tongue upward. Keep in mind that the "r"s are always followed by "ra", "ri", "ru", "ro", or "re".

This post has been edited by SkyBurial: Aug 29 2011, 01:22 PM

[fivers]

The "r"s are pronounced sort of like a "d". That's the only example I could think of atm. The "l" sound, however, is missing from the Japanese language. So when it is pronounced, usually the "r"s replaces it.

When you pronounce the "r", softly flick your tongue upward. Keep in mind that the "r"s are always followed by "ra", "ri", "ru", "ro", or "re".

ah ic thx

[AsiaticGlory]

The "r"s are pronounced sort of like a "d". That's the only example I could think of atm. The "l" sound, however, is missing from the Japanese language. So when it is pronounced, usually the "r"s replaces it.

When you pronounce the "r", softly flick your tongue upward. Keep in mind that the "r"s are always followed by "ra", "ri", "ru", "ro", or "re".

ra, ri, ru, re, ro is pronounced as la, li, lu, le, lo. That is the romanization. Here is the Hiragana version of those letters: ら, り, る, れ, ろ.

@fivers
The 'r' in "sayonara, arigato, hara-kiri" is pronounced as 'l'.

This post has been edited by AsiaticGlory: Aug 29 2011, 01:48 PM

[SkyBurial]

ra, ri, ru, re, ro is pronounce as la, li, lu, le, lo. That is the romanization. Here is the Hiragana version of those letters: ら, り, る, れ, ろ.

@fivers
The 'r' in "sayonara, arigato, hara-kiri" is pronounced as 'l'.

If you try to pronounce さよなら,ありがとう, or 腹切 with just a "L" it's not going to come out right. It's a combination of the English "R", "L", and "D".

Obviously, if you want to pronounce it correctly, just skip the romanization of it and learn the kana. But this is just my way of explaining it to English speakers.

This post has been edited by SkyBurial: Aug 29 2011, 01:59 PM

[fivers]

ra, ri, ru, re, ro is pronounced as la, li, lu, le, lo. That is the romanization. Here is the Hiragana version of those letters: ら, り, る, れ, ろ.

@fivers
The 'r' in "sayonara, arigato, hara-kiri" is pronounced as 'l'.

I'm starting to get the picture along with what SkyBurial said.. thx

[mastaping]

Also in Korean, "ㄹ" can be either "l" or "r" sound depending on where it is placed...

[rahul1000]

indian too.

How do you know?

[fivers]

Also in Korean, "ㄹ" can be either "l" or "r" sound depending on where it is placed...

ah ic thx mastaping ^^ didn't know that either.. it's time I start learning Korean


@Rahul, do you speak Indian?

[AsiaticGlory]

Obviously, if you want to pronounce it correctly, just skip the romanization of it and learn the kana. But this is just my way of explaining it to English speakers.

agreed
Romanization should only be used at the beginning. Once you get used to the writing system, you should get rid of it. There seems to be some confusion on how to pronounce 'ん' too.

Chinese romanization is even more confusing.

[DOUBLEMINT]

Chinese can pronounce R perfectly.

[freezingpoint]

Chinese can pronounce R perfectly.

+1.

we can't pronounce the english Ci sound though. Sit = sheet.

[togepi]

It's to do with bad teaching.

I know many Asians who can speak English with a British accept and flawless Chinese.

This post has been edited by togepi: Aug 31 2011, 05:20 PM

[freezingpoint]

It's to do with bad teaching.

I know many Asians who can speak English with a British accept and flawless Chinese.

+1 for slave mentality. so let me ask you: why can a white man, in an Asian country, speak with a terrible accent and people would be bowing down to him like "oh master, you bothered to learn the language of us lowly colonial slaves" while in an Anglophone country, an Asian speaking with even a slight accent is BAD and WRONG?

[DOUBLEMINT]

+1.

we can't pronounce the english Ci sound though. Sit = sheet.

I think the most difficult one is "th".For example, three,thrive.

[togepi]

+1 for slave mentality. so let me ask you: why can a white man, in an Asian country, speak with a terrible accent and people would be bowing down to him like "oh master, you bothered to learn the language of us lowly colonial slaves" while in an Anglophone country, an Asian speaking with even a slight accent is BAD and WRONG?

You have to ask those people who do that.

Personally, as someone who speaks many languages, I don't find it remarkable when someone can speak a few words of some foreign language.