China and japanese emperors, emperors related to the tribes of southern chinese Options

[kieshin]

of course Han Chinese must have originated from somewhere so did the SEA and the NEA, I think that originally they all shared the same ancestors migrating throughout different parts of Asia - whether or not it were the exact same type of ancestors is up to the genetic report about the YDNA as even the original group of people must have had some geographic-genetic diversity.., like Kieshin said some stayed relatively more homogenous than others...

but honestly you guys watch wayyy too many K-dramas me think cause a lot of Koreans are not pretty and all at all lol, at least not if you like slit-eyed pancake faces

u been to SEA? if u do, then u'll understand why 70% of their celebrities are half white LOL

[kieshin]

Not at all. Everything I quoted are not consistent with what you saying. Instead, it is more accurate to say you misunderstood/misterpret them.

then like i said have some one comptent explain it to u and ask them who is closer to who (between SEA, chinese, korean) in term of genetic

u said SEA is closer to korean than to the chinese genetically speaking, now i already explain it to u even with some easy common sensewhy it is not possible, but u r insisted, now get some people that competent in genetic field and ask them which one is true....

This post has been edited by kieshin: Sep 23 2011, 02:25 PM

[Rayzor]

then like i said have some one comptent explain it to u and ask them who is closer to who (between SEA, chinese, korean) in term of genetic

u said SEA is closer to korean than to the chinese genetically speaking, now i already explain it to u even with some easy common sensewhy it is not possible, but u r insisted, now get some people that competent in genetic field and ask them which one is true....

Whatever it is, just try to refute me back. All you did is keep running away. By keep doing this, the only thing you prove is your ignorancy.

If you are saying it is impossible to relate Korean with SEA because of physical look, then the same can also be applied to the Han Chinese as well.

This post has been edited by Rayzor: Sep 23 2011, 02:27 PM

[kieshin]

Whatever it is, just try to refute me back. All you did is keep running away. By keep doing this, the only thing you prove is your ignorancy.

im not running away i even have explained to u with simple everyday "even chimp can understand" language but u insisted, now go and get into ur car drive to nearest university find someone competent in genetic field and ask them which one is closer genetically, chinese - korean - SEA? SIMPLE no headache

dont try to misled people, lol u said SEA genetically closer to korean than to the chinese...... i said that is impossible, but u insisted, now go find someone that can help u understand why is that not possible

n u didnt even understand the simplest logic when i said if lookwise chinese closer to korean that means SEA closer to chinese than to korean....
why is that?

LOL ....


go find someone to explain it to u, i give up

This post has been edited by kieshin: Sep 23 2011, 02:37 PM

[Rayzor]

im not running away i even have explained to u with simple everyday "even chimp can understand" language but u insisted, now go and get into ur car drive to nearest university find someone competent in genetic field and ask them which one is closer genetically, chinese - korean - SEA? SIMPLE no headache

And I have already refute you.

Here is my latest refutation just a few moment ago.

Earlier, you try to relate Han Chinese with SEA by using o2a. However, o2a are found only on moderate frequency among Han Chinese from Sichuan, Guangdong,Guangxi and Yunnan. Some of those o2a use are referring to ethnic minority in China, not Han Chinese. This means you misinterpret. o3 on the other hand are common among ALL asians. It can be used to link all asians together. As for o2-o2a-o2b connection I talking about, as I said before, o2 who are sibling of o2b are predominant among southeast asian especially among Thai and Vietnamese. Indonesian also got a lot of o2. If you talk about YDNA alone, Korean are closer towards most southeast asian than Han Chinese.

Please continue. Prove to me, where did I said it wrong. If you are right, maybe I will take back what I said. Physically speaking, neither Han Chinese or Korean look like Indonesian or Malay. So , I got no idea why you suddenly think Chinese are more related towards southeast asian consider they both look nothing alike especially the native of Malaysia, where you live. Beside, looks are subjective. To be honest, here in Malaysia, I have mistook some Korean for Chinese before. If Chinese are related to SEA, then using your physical appearance logic, Korean are related to SEA with equal amount as well.

This post has been edited by Rayzor: Sep 23 2011, 02:47 PM

[kieshin]

And I have already refute you.

Here is my latest refutation just a few moment ago.



Please continue. Prove to me, where did I said it wrong. If you are right, maybe I will take back what I said.

lol

just common sense no need numbers n letters lolz

first is the look, n then u at the language, culture n location n u connect them n whalah u can draw ur own conclusion with ur brain (that if u have enough of them) which one genetically closer to which one....

simple........even monkey got it!

[Rayzor]

lol

just common sense no need numbers n letters lolz

first is the look, n then u at the language, culture n location n u connect them n whalah u can draw ur own conclusion with ur brain (that if u have enough of them) which one genetically closer to which one....

simple........even monkey got it!

The look, Chinese don't look anything like those Malay you talking about. Language, Chinese don't sound anything like Bahasa Melayu. Culture, definitely no. For ancestor, from YDNA point of view, the answer is no.

This post has been edited by Rayzor: Sep 23 2011, 02:51 PM

[fivers]

im not running away i even have explained to u with simple everyday "even chimp can understand" language but u insisted, now go and get into ur car drive to nearest university find someone competent in genetic field and ask them which one is closer genetically, chinese - korean - SEA? SIMPLE no headache

dont try to misled people, lol u said SEA genetically closer to korean than to the chinese...... i said that is impossible, but u insisted, now go find someone that can help u understand why is that not possible

n u didnt even understand the simplest logic when i said if lookwise chinese closer to korean that means SEA closer to chinese than to korean....
why is that?

LOL ....


go find someone to explain it to u, i give up

from what I read.. what differentiates SEA from Koreans and Chinese is the o2 and o2b, what binds them is the o3 and in a lesser extent the o2a

if SEA is genetically closer to Korean than to Chinese it means o2a is more prevalent in Koreans than in Chinese

but if lookwise Chinese look closer to Korean - as opposed to SEA to Korean, than o2a is likely to be dominant over o2 and o2b

when SEA and Chinese mix more than often the phenotype will look more Chinese than SEA, meaning there's indeed reason to assume o2 and o2b is recessive over o2a

>> this means both of you were correct although explaining it differently, lol, I hope I'm not being wrong here , if there's a bio-expert overhere than pls post lol

[HotdogLotion]

Whatever it is, just try to refute me back. All you did is keep running away. By keep doing this, the only thing you prove is your ignorancy.

If you are saying it is impossible to relate Korean with SEA because of physical look, then the same can also be applied to the Han Chinese as well.

Actually there are some Koreans do look SEA. So do Japanese......You just have not met enough Koreans.....

This post has been edited by HotdogLotion: Sep 26 2011, 06:07 AM

[islandBrother]

No just Koreans tell me they are Altaic and are not SEAs. O2b probably originated in around Manchuria.

O2a, O2b*, O2b1 root is south east asia.

source:

Origin of Imperial House of Japan
http://www.cjapan.net/en/content/origin-imperial-house-japan

Imperial family descended from Jomon/Ainu of Japan
http://www.cjapan.net/en/content/imperial-...jomonainu-japan

[SkyBurial]

Actually there are some Koreans do look SEA. So do Japanese......You just have not met enough Koreans.....

If that's the case, then the same could be said about both Northern and Southern Chinese.

[BinhMinh05]

hi!!

i know only few chinese are interested in this topic.
i posted in Vietnamese chat, and i only want Vietnamese advise but some chinese join.
so, I put the topic in China Chat, so chinese people can talk in
relevant to chinese.

late and now, japanese thinks that the japanese emperor roots in south east asia or Sundaland, 3,000-20,000 years ago.
some southern chinese tribes have D1 but no papers that O2b1 is in Chinese, so less
relation to southern chinese, but maybe some tribes stay in china when south east asian
migrated to japan.

Origin of Imperial House of Japan
http://www.cjapan.net/en/content/origin-imperial-house-japan

another article is helps me.

Imperial family descended from Jomon/Ainu of Japan
http://www.cjapan.net/en/content/imperial-...jomonainu-japan



The History of Japanese Houses
http://web-japan.org/kidsweb/virtual/house/house02.html

I am Japanese,and many I spoke to are no problems with roots in south east asia, or vietnam, indonesia, phillipine, thailand, burma, east india, andaman islands.

about koreans, there is one korean concubine who married emperor, she was 10th generation korean-japanese after the korean hostage from korean kingdom naturalized to japan, 1500 years ago. probably now, 0.000001% of japanese emperor shares korean blood.

also, there are one concubine from china, and married with the japanese emperor. so, 0.0000001% of japanese emperor also shares chinese bloods. there is open secret, but japan hide it because the chinese blood in imperial family tree can anger american

But, 99.99999% of japanese emperors blood are south east asian (also including some southern chinese tribes with D1, and probably O2b1).

source = http://www.cjapan.net/en/content/origin-imperial-house-japan

Some our Vietnamese people consider Japanese were descedents of our Van Lang state about 3000 - 4000 thousands years ago. At this time, some group of people sailed toward Japan island and inhabitant there.
This issue should be researched more to get a clearer point.

This post has been edited by BinhMinh05: Sep 27 2011, 05:14 PM

[islandBrother]

i talked in history scholar from china, he confirmed japanese emperors have chinese bloods from tang dynasty.
japanese student whose childs with chinese woman become the grandmother of japanese emperor.

[islandBrother]

i found many discoveries to language and DNA,
i came again to leave for discoveries