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We have Altaic-Mongol Ancestry! DNA Proof Inside.
xaithoj
post Sep 18 2011, 01:35 AM
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wow, i made a major break-thru on the dna ancestry picture for hmong daw (hmong dawb) and it includes a significant portion of Altaic ancestry, ie Mongols!!!

so the hmong daw y-dna ancestral breakdown is as follows. the data is from a very recent 2011 report: http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%...al.pone.0024282

Hmong Daw
33.33% - O3a3b (M7) the hmong marker gene.
25.49% - C (M130) ***possible mongol ancestry***
7.84% - O3a3c1 (M117) han chinese.
7.84% - D1 (M15) found mostly in tibeto-burman peoples.
5.88% - O2a (M95) austro-asiatics.
5.88% - O2a1 (M88) tai, mon-khmer, viet peoples.

because the 2011 Plos One report did not break out the C (M130) dna data, it was just speculation. the C could be C1, C2 or C3. i needed to find concrete evidence of what kind of C dna it was. i did! its contained in a recent 2010 Karafet TM report: https://viewer.zoho.com/docs/ndaMDc

in this report, the C dna is broken down for hmong/miao. we tested positive for both C (RPS4Y) austronesian and C (M217) altaic. the ratio is 1 to 2 (the ratio and actual results are just coincidence). so if we apply that ratio to the PlosOne report, it becomes 16.75% C (M217) and 8.75% C (RPS4Y). the full hmong daw ancestry can now be shown as:

Hmong Daw
33.33% - O3a3b (M7) the hmong marker gene.
16.75% - C (M217) altaic-mongol.
8.75% - C (RPS4Y) austronesian.
7.84% - O3a3c1 (M117) han chinese.
7.84% - D1 (M15) found mostly in tibeto-burman peoples.
6.00% - N1c (M46/Tat) found mostly in yakut peoples.
5.88% - O2a (M95) austro-asiatics.
5.88% - O2a1 (M88) tai, mon-khmer, viet peoples.

there you go my hmong brothers and sisters. finally we have proof of our altaic-mongol ancestry!!!

*edited for the N1c yakut ancestry from 'table S1' XLS of the PlosOne report linked above.

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you get China's number 1 famous folk singer Ms. SonG Zuying? she's Hmong



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