What dialect does people in Taipei speak? Options

[progen]

I heard that the mainlanders make up on 30% of the population in Taipei. However, people in Taipei still mostly speaks Mandarin, instead of Taiwanese.

I would think that most Taiwanese prefer to speak Taiwanese, even though they live in Taipei.

[DOUBLEMINT]

Theres no such thing as "taiwanese",its 闽南语,a dialect spoken in Fujian province.

[progen]

Theres no such thing as "taiwanese",its 闽南语,a dialect spoken in Fujian province.

Of course I meant 闽南话. But why do people in Taipei speak Taiwanese instead of Mandarin, even though most of them are Taiwanese.

[minh77]

Of course I meant ???. But why do people in Taipei speak Taiwanese instead of Mandarin, even though most of them are Taiwanese.

Because many of them are descendant of hoklo, majority taipei citizen can speak minnanyu, nowday younger people less fluent in minnan langguage

But in southern taiwan, minnan still popular throughout all ages

Thank to lee teng hui for his localization movement that allowing local taiwanese culture and langguage could developing into society, too bad that kuomintang banned taiwanese culture, especially during martial law

I wish taiwan can be idependent identity that can developing our minnan culture to the world

Kicks out all of waishengren, chiangkaisek is loser and he suck !

Taiwan toklip...bansui..bansui...

[progen]

Because many of them are descendant of hoklo, majority taipei citizen can speak minnanyu, nowday younger people less fluent in minnan langguage

But in southern taiwan, minnan still popular throughout all ages

Thank to lee teng hui for his localization movement that allowing local taiwanese culture and langguage could developing into society, too bad that kuomintang banned taiwanese culture, especially during martial law

I wish taiwan can be idependent identity that can developing our minnan culture to the world

Kicks out all of waishengren, chiangkaisek is loser and he suck !

Taiwan toklip...bansui..bansui...

Since the majority of Taipei citizens are Hoklo and can speak minnanyu, why would younger people less fluent in minnan language?

Do the younger people in Taipei prefer to speak Mandarin?

[minh77]

Since the majority of Taipei citizens are Hoklo and can speak minnanyu, why would younger people less fluent in minnan language?

Do the younger people in Taipei prefer to speak Mandarin?

Because in taiwan. Kuomintang goverment made effort to associate hoklo langguage with negative image, such like lowly rural langguage or gangsta related langguage, and there is even permanent banned in school, the kids who caught up speaking hoklo, will be punished by the teacher, they are going to kill hoklo langguage and assimilate their speaker into mandarin langguage since hoklo langguage and culture is the langguage that related with taiwan independence, all of this is kuomintang policy

No wonder young people are less fluent in hoklo even their parent are hoklo people

Don't even say the limitation and banning in goverment and public place

If not the lee teng hui left up martial law, minnanyu will be not longer existed,

If you see in mangka movie, still you can see taipei ppl speak hoklo especially in traditional district

[Yerroperil]

Because in taiwan. Kuomintang goverment made effort to associate hoklo langguage with negative image, such like lowly rural langguage or gangsta related langguage, and there is even permanent banned in school, the kids who caught up speaking hoklo, will be punished by the teacher, they are going to kill hoklo langguage and assimilate their speaker into mandarin langguage since hoklo langguage and culture is the langguage that related with taiwan independence, all of this is kuomintang policy

No wonder young people are less fluent in hoklo even their parent are hoklo people

Don't even say the limitation and banning in goverment and public place

If not the lee teng hui left up martial law, minnanyu will be not longer existed,

If you see in mangka movie, still you can see taipei ppl speak hoklo especially in traditional district

I thought Minnan dying out in the north is because the majority of waishegren migrated to the northern parts of Taiwan(there were towns in Southern Taiwan who were pure waishengren),from what my relatives told me Minnan is taught in kindergarten and some grade schools part after that mandarin replaces it. I don't have a high opinion about lee teng hui hes a Japanese c!ck sucker,he even visited the Yasukuni shrine(granted his brother was enshrined there but still),his Taiwanese identity is retarded Minnan originated in Fujian don't try to make it that Taiwanese made it up themselves.

This post has been edited by Yerroperil: Nov 10 2011, 01:44 AM

[minh77]

I thought Minnan dying out in the north is because the majority of waishegren migrated to the northern parts of Taiwan(there were towns in Southern Taiwan who were pure waishengren),from what my relatives told me Minnan is taught in kindergarten and some grade schools part after that mandarin replaces it. I don't have a high opinion about lee teng hui hes a Japanese c!ck sucker,he even visited the Yasukuni shrine(granted his brother was enshrined there but still),his Taiwanese identity is retarded Minnan originated in Fujian don't try to make it that Taiwanese made it up themselves.

actually l don't like lee teng hui especially he is japanese wannabe mentality, but it his effort to bring minnan into mainstream since it has been banned for long years, it lee teng hui left the martial law unless minnan is gonna be an dying out langguage like in northern taiwan,

Kuomintang give nothing for taiwan local culture, anyway abian also built up hakka tv for hakka people, I don't see kuomintang give any effort on this issue

Actually northern taiwan has many minnan speaker but due to waishengren and kuomintang goverment pressure, it has decreased a lot, only old people speak it in northern taiwan...it that kind of policy is keepin on, the entire taiwan will be no more any minnan speaker

Actually. Minnan culture will more developing if taiwan stand alone as idenpendent identity, I don't has many faith on waishengren and mainlander since their policy always trying to assimilate the other sub culture and make it northern mandarin culture

Like xiamen, full of outsider, nobody give $hit for their local minnan culture

Nor do I ever cctv chanel broadcasting any minnan culture or guangdong culture, all they care just dongbei er ren zhuan or other northern folk culture

Only in taiwan, minnan culture can be flourish as big major culture like guangdong people do in hongkong

I speaking from minnan speaker point of view...

[Yerroperil]

actually l don't like lee teng hui especially he is japanese wannabe mentality, but it his effort to bring minnan into mainstream since it has been banned for long years, it lee teng hui left the martial law unless minnan is gonna be an dying out langguage like in northern taiwan,

Kuomintang give nothing for taiwan local culture, anyway abian also built up hakka tv for hakka people, I don't see kuomintang give any effort on this issue

Actually northern taiwan has many minnan speaker but due to waishengren and kuomintang goverment pressure, it has decreased a lot, only old people speak it in northern taiwan...it that kind of policy is keepin on, the entire taiwan will be no more any minnan speaker

Actually. Minnan culture will more developing if taiwan stand alone as idenpendent identity, I don't has many faith on waishengren and mainlander since their policy always trying to assimilate the other sub culture and make it northern mandarin culture

Like xiamen, full of outsider, nobody give $hit for their local minnan culture

Nor do I ever cctv chanel broadcasting any minnan culture or guangdong culture, all they care just dongbei er ren zhuan or other northern folk culture

Only in taiwan, minnan culture can be flourish as big major culture like guangdong people do in hongkong

I speaking from minnan speaker point of view...

Well,the old KMT not sure about todays was a major @sshole,228 incident wasn't pretty(it was a tragedy but what I dislike about DPP is that they constantly bring it up trying to drive a rift between waishengren and bendiren something that should be avoided),Chiang Kai shek wasn't suited to rule people hes a military general. What I find hilarious is that somehow some Taiwanese think Minnan is indigenous... Due to the the amount of northerners and previous KMT rule Mandarin is predominant in Northern Taiwan especially Taipei,Minnan isn't going to disappear in the south some people are hardcore DPP supporters,the only problem with how "Taiwanese" culture should flourish spawns bullsh!t that Southern Taiwanese bendiren are sinified aboriginal lmao. When I was in China during last month all the talent shows that my relatives watched always featured minority groups(Mongolians,Tibetans etc),I find it strange that the CPP caters more to minorities then to some Han Chinese. I don't see Minnan culture dying out,Minnan speakers are in SEA which at least to my grandmother are mutually intelligible(not Teochew though),however I don't think the CCP wants to erase other dialects of Chinese on purpose.