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"Hoàng Tử Nguyễn Phúc Bửu Chánh" is a joke
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post Mar 13 2005, 03:28 PM
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Quit claiming yourself to be the monkey's uncle. You are practically the only person in the whole wide world who publicly claims to be related to Bảo Đại with pride. The rest of us (and there are tens of thousands of us if not hundreds of thousands of us) bow our heads in shame everytime we think of Bảo Đại.
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post Mar 13 2005, 03:39 PM
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no life he says
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post Mar 13 2005, 06:17 PM
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QUOTE (worker_bee @ Mar 13 2005, 03:28 PM)
Quit claiming yourself to be the monkey's uncle. You are practically the only person in the whole wide world who publicly claims to be related to Bảo Đại with pride. The rest of us (and there are tens of thousands of us if not hundreds of thousands of us) bow our heads in shame everytime we think of Bảo Đại.
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You still haven't answered me when did Bao Dai convert to Christianity?
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post Mar 13 2005, 06:34 PM
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Bảo Đại is a Catholic by heart. He married a Catholic. When he died, they gave him a Catholic burial ceremony
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post Mar 13 2005, 06:38 PM
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Furthermore, he was the one who declared that Catholicism was the only legitimate religion in Vietnam. The rest are just organizations subjected to governmental oversight. Also, only hardcore commies make light of nationalism.
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post Mar 13 2005, 08:27 PM
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QUOTE (worker_bee @ Mar 13 2005, 06:34 PM)
Bảo Đại is a Catholic by heart. He married a Catholic. When he died, they gave him a Catholic burial ceremony
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He married a Catholic but he was never a Catholic, and he didn't even have a Catholic burial ceremony. You're making it seems that he married Nam Phuong Hoang Hau because she was a catholic.

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Furthermore, he was the one who declared that Catholicism was the only legitimate religion in Vietnam. The rest are just organizations subjected to governmental oversight. Also, only hardcore commies make light of nationalism.


Proof?


In all seriousness, I don't like Nguyen dynasty much, but Bao Dai is not evil. He might be a puppet, an untalented person, but not a total traitor.

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post Mar 15 2005, 05:46 AM
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QUOTE (worker_bee @ Mar 13 2005, 06:38 PM)
Furthermore, he was the one who declared that Catholicism was the only legitimate religion in Vietnam. The rest are just organizations subjected to governmental oversight. Also, only hardcore commies make light of nationalism.
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Emperor Bao Dai, never declared that Catholicism was the only legitimate religion in Vietnam.

Also Emperor Bao Dai's first wife Empress Nam Phuong was a Catholic but she died in 1963.

Emperor Bao Dai converted to Catholicism, in the 1990's because his current wife at the time, was a Catholic named Monique Vinh Thuy (aka Monique Baudot).

A biography on Emperor Bao Dai: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bao_Dai

Empress Monique Vinh Thuy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monique_Vinh_Thuy

Emperor Bao Dai is not a traitor, he has spoken out for Vietnamese Nationalism, but due to outside influences, for example China, France and the United States, he did not have the power to stop them.

Quotes of Emperor Bao Dai

"What they call a Bao Dai solution turns out to be just a French solution."

"I would prefer to be a citizen of an independent country rather than Emperor of an enslaved one."

"If your government had given me a thousandth of the sum it spent to depose me, I could have won that war."

"The time has come to put an end to the fratricidal war and to recover at last peace and accord."

"I do not wish a foreign army to spill the blood of my people." - Emperor Bao Dai when informed that the Allies had placed the Japanese garrison at his disposal to defend the Forbbiden City from the Vietminh.

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post Mar 15 2005, 05:55 AM
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QUOTE (worker_bee @ Mar 13 2005, 03:28 PM)
Quit claiming yourself to be the monkey's uncle. You are practically the only person in the whole wide world who publicly claims to be related to Bảo Đại with pride. The rest of us (and there are tens of thousands of us if not hundreds of thousands of us) bow our heads in shame everytime we think of Bảo Đại.
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Prince Nguyen Phuc Buu Chanh is a Patriot, that has been putting his life at risk for democratic change in Vietnam.

During the Fall of Saigon, in 1975, he did not flee Vietnam as thousands of Vietnamese feared for their lives.

He remained in Vietnam in Kien Hoa Province and campaigned secretly, the Communist government was aware of him and threaten to put him in a re-education camp and also threaten his life.

Prince Nguyen Phuc Buu Chanh was exiled from Vietnam in 1979.

Prince Nguyen Phuc Buu Chanh: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nguyen_Phuc_Buu_Chanh

Imperial Nguyen Dynasty of Vietnam opposes the Communist Government of Vietnam: http://www.prweb.com/releases/2004/7/prwebxml143720.php

(IMG:http://ww1.prweb.com/prfiles/2004/07/22/143720/Prince_Nguyen_Phuc_Buu_Chanh.JPG)
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post Mar 20 2005, 05:12 PM
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QUOTE (worker_bee @ Mar 13 2005, 12:28 PM)
The rest of us (and there are tens of thousands of us if not hundreds of thousands of us) bow our heads in shame everytime we think of Bảo Đại.
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Emperor Bao Dai had support of the Vietnamese People, It was because of outside Foreigner Influences, that was out of his control that brought distruction and war to our Nation of Vietnam.

Emperor Bao Dai and Princess Monique Vinh Thuy visit the Cao Dai Temple:

http://www.thienlybuutoa.org/Uni/SinhHoat/...i-12-2-1982.htm
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post Mar 21 2005, 03:02 AM
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QUOTE (DavidPham @ Mar 20 2005, 05:12 PM)
Emperor Bao Dai had support of the Vietnamese People, It was because of outside Foreigner Influences, that was out of his control that brought distruction and war to our Nation of Vietnam.

Emperor Bao Dai and Princess Monique Vinh Thuy visit the Cao Dai Temple:


He was notorious for being a playboy and he said nothing about these foreign interferences or the many foreign atrocities.

But what do these My nguy , princesses or princes say about the unexploded bombs and mines, and toxic wastes that are still killing innocent people. Do they advocate that these foreigners should take responsibility for them, or compensate and alleviate the problem. Or they just do the VC chant and play with the same 50yr crap that changes nothing but stinks it up and makes mockeries out of everything for some stupid, stinking, monkeying laughs. Hawhawhaw, hooeeeaaaaa

Perform here and perform there for some more hawhawhaw hooeeeeeaaaaa
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post Mar 21 2005, 06:30 AM
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QUOTE (quocthaibinhan @ Mar 21 2005, 03:02 AM)
He was notorious for being a playboy and he said nothing about these foreign interferences or the many foreign atrocities.
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Where are you facts ?

That is just propaganda from the Communists and also Foreigners that wanted to control Vietnam for themselves.

You are not apart of the solution you are a follower, just spreading rumors and wrong information without doing any research.

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Biography of Emperor Bao Dai: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bao_Dai

Emperor Bao Dai did speak out against foreign interferences and Forgeign Atrocities in Vietnam.

If you did some research you would be aware of his speeches that he spoke out against foreign control of Vietnam and the treatment of the Vietnamese people.

Quotes of Emperor Bao Dai

"What they call a Bao Dai solution turns out to be just a French solution."

"I would prefer to be a citizen of an independent country rather than Emperor of an enslaved one."

"If your government had given me a thousandth of the sum it spent to depose me, I could have won that war."

"The time has come to put an end to the fratricidal war and to recover at last peace and accord."

"I do not wish a foreign army to spill the blood of my people." - Emperor Bao Dai when informed that the Allies had placed the Japanese garrison at his disposal to defend the Forbbiden City from the Vietminh.

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post Mar 21 2005, 08:40 AM
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He spoke so much that even I can not hear him. Give me some of his speeches . I will see how relevant they were. And how many speeches did he do and for how long. In fact give me a whole bunch of them. I will skim them and others too will be interested.

But again what do My nguy , princesses and princes do about the unexploded bombs, mines and toxic wastes. Those chemical manufactures are being on trial, the last I heard, for their involvements with Saddam regime in using poisons and toxic chemicals. What do they do about it, or VC chants.

I have read your link. Very little was done by him, IF this was it. How often and for how long did he try. This is very little, a little more than VC chants, I got to give him that.

((As a result of the meetings conducted, Bao Dai publically spoke out against the presence of American troops on the territory of South Vietnam, and he also criticized President Nguyen Van Thieu's regime in South Vietnam. He called for all political factions to create a free, neutral, peace-loving government that would resolve the tense situation that had taken form in the country.

Bao Dai died in a military hospital in Paris in 1997.))


Still very little, nothing near to what I am saying right and I am just a nothing person.

Any more!!!


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post Mar 21 2005, 09:05 AM
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Is this one time speech, one time performance good enough to play around for the rest of his long life.

I am a nothing person, but I think it should be more than this

Do something about feeding the people and those unexploded bombs , mines and toxic wastes, will you. You guy don't even dare to speak about it.

This is pathetic, no matter what. You are still playing with the same 50 yr crap. Is not it ???


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