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[SabaiSabai]

What a dream-story. Khmers were everywhere. Besides Cham and Proto-Malay it's the only ethnicity to be on the mainland. You say that they al fled and started a new but far from similar kingdom. Haha, let's make a poll what people think is moer reliable, lol.

Roflmao it's the only ethnicity because Khmers branded everyone else as Khmer too roflmao

Why don't you ask all the other ethnics do they call themselves Khmer lol

Such a ridiculous statement lol Khmer the only ethnic on the mainland roflmao

[SEAhistory]

Ok I've just checked the po nagar inscription. The events of the Javanese raiders happened in 774AD

This is about 200 years earlier than Jayavarman II. Where is the connection? how did you get it was during the same period as jayavarman II declaring independence from Java? Lol

Are you telling me Jayavarman II ruled in 974? haha

But the connection is that there was a powerstruggle between Cham, Khmer and another party. The Cham and Khmer could have decided to join forces and fight of the enemy, in which the Po Nagar inscription and the reign of Jayavarman II were the outcome. It could be that the Cham controlled the maritime ports and that the Khmers delivered many products in the mainlands. With them both controlling the and guarding the territory.

[PeaceMan]

Don't put your american thinking to apply to Thai people. I really don't think I am a Chinese, I am a Thai. I only feel I am a Chinese when I come in here. It's Thaiification effect, any problem?

Since my grandmother was of Chinese descent, I guess that made me a "Sino-Siamese/ Thai",too...But you are right we are no American..those ethnic identity is quite insignificant for us!

We all considered ourselves as Thai...of "The Thai family!"

Wouldn't mind at all ,actually so proud, to know that Siamese is our former name...

[Leeporter]

Ok I've just checked the po nagar inscription. The events of the Javanese raiders happened in 774AD

This is about 200 years earlier than Jayavarman II. Where is the connection? how did you get it was during the same period as jayavarman II declaring independence from Java? Lol

Sabai, what you are talking about was the army of Srivijaya striking back Chenla and Champa after it was retreated down south.

Chenla attacked Srivijaya at Chaiya during 745 and it was retreated downsouth to Nakorn Sridhammarat and Kehdah.

Around 20 years later, Srivijaya became stronger and conquered Sumatra, Java (and probably Sri Lanka)

And it striked Chenla to take the power back.

This part of history was during the King called "Vishanu" who claimed himself as a Sailendra king that I've told you earlier.

First I thought he might be Jayavarman II but from the story, he died in Nakorn Sridhammarat after coming back from conquering Java in Indonesia.

He got 2 sons, though. And I am studying where these 2 sons of him went.

[SEAhistory]

Roflmao it's the only ethnicity because Khmers branded everyone else as Khmer too roflmao

Why don't you ask all the other ethnics do they call themselves Khmer lol

Such a ridiculous statement lol Khmer the only ethnic on the mainland roflmao

The main ethinicty is Khmer, with a similar genetic make up that comprises the territory of Kamboja and represents a population that has been intermixing for many centuries. Not like tribal people would do but like what would happen in a kingdom.

[Jin4life]

Your Redshirt leader is Jek. Retarded Lao, you are the most stupidiest people.

I guess... LOL

Look at who is trying to make rhyming history lesson with some Khmer members here. I mean, how stupid can Thai members be?

[SEAhistory]

Sabai, what you are talking about was the army of Srivijaya striking back Chenla and Champa after it was retreated down south.

Chenla attacked Srivijaya at Chaiya during 745 and it was retreated downsouth to Nakorn Sridhammarat and Kehdah.

Around 20 years later, Srivijaya became stronger and conquered Sumatra, Java (and probably Sri Lanka)

And it striked Chenla to take the power back.

This part of history was during the King called "Vishanu" who claimed himself as a Sailendra king that I've told you earlier.

First I thought he might be Jayavarman II but from the story, he died in Nakorn Sridhammarat after coming back from conquering Java in Indonesia.

He got 2 sons, though. And I am studying where these 2 sons of him went.

Bla bla bla, I am making up stories with no sign of evidence. You are so pathetic, lol.

[Jin4life]

Here's the thing. You lied about me trolling Thai, Laos and chinese. You lied about me trying to start beef between viets and chinese. You're a liar who pretends that he never lied before. How are we supposed to believe that you are Laos, when i corner in a desperate situation, you had to lie your way out. LOLOLOLOL

But who is lying to one self? You can only used assumption mode from now on.


Contradicting self much?

[SEAhistory]

Sabai, what you are talking about was the army of Srivijaya striking back Chenla and Champa after it was retreated down south.

Chenla attacked Srivijaya at Chaiya during 745 and it was retreated downsouth to Nakorn Sridhammarat and Kehdah.

Around 20 years later, Srivijaya became stronger and conquered Sumatra, Java (and probably Sri Lanka)

And it striked Chenla to take the power back.

This part of history was during the King called "Vishanu" who claimed himself as a Sailendra king that I've told you earlier.

First I thought he might be Jayavarman II but from the story, he died in Nakorn Sridhammarat after coming back from conquering Java in Indonesia.

He got 2 sons, though. And I am studying where these 2 sons of him went.

And yeah Sabai, you are right! Srivijaya was retreated down south! First you thought he was Jayavarman, but no you can not claim ridiculous bull$hit anymore, because you are misproven, so you make up another legend and say it was one of the sons. You are pathetic, lol.

[SabaiSabai]

Are you telling me Jayavarman II ruled in 974? haha

But the connection is that there was a powerstruggle between Cham, Khmer and another party. The Cham and Khmer could have decided to join forces and fight of the enemy, in which the Po Nagar inscription and the reign of Jayavarman II were the outcome. It could be that the Cham controlled the maritime ports and that the Khmers delivered many products in the mainlands. With them both controlling the and guarding the territory.

I said it was ABOUT 200 years. Not 200 years exactly. Don't be stupid.

Po nagar inscription says nothing about Khmers

Jayavarman II inscription says nothing about Champa

The only connection is in your head

[SabaiSabai]

Sabai, what you are talking about was the army of Srivijaya striking back Chenla and Champa after it was retreated down south.

Chenla attacked Srivijaya at Chaiya during 745 and it was retreated downsouth to Nakorn Sridhammarat and Kehdah.

Around 20 years later, Srivijaya became stronger and conquered Sumatra, Java (and probably Sri Lanka)

And it striked Chenla to take the power back.

This part of history was during the King called "Vishanu" who claimed himself as a Sailendra king that I've told you earlier.

First I thought he might be Jayavarman II but from the story, he died in Nakorn Sridhammarat after coming back from conquering Java in Indonesia.

He got 2 sons, though. And I am studying where these 2 sons of him went.

Tell me more about this war

[SEAhistory]

I said it was ABOUT 200 years. Not 200 years exactly. Don't be stupid.

Po nagar inscription says nothing about Khmers

Jayavarman II inscription says nothing about Champa

The only connection is in your head

Jayavarman II ruled around 780 you idiot

[khmerking]

But who is lying to one self? You can only used assumption mode from now on.


Contradicting self much?

What exactly did i lied about? I never said I was Khmer. Unless you can find a quote on where I said I was khmer. The one who that got caught lying is you. Do i need to pull out some quotes from you again to make you look like fool?

[SEAhistory]

Tell me more about this war

why not show some evidence?

[Leeporter]

And yeah Sabai, you are right! Srivijaya was retreated down south! First you thought he was Jayavarman, but no you can not claim ridiculous bull$hit anymore, because you are misproven, so you make up another legend and say it was one of the sons. You are pathetic, lol.

ha ha ha .. don't worry I will provide you with the proof after I finish studying all the related materials.

Like I said earlier, Jayavarman II may be King Vishanu himself or his descendent. Go back to read what I posted.

And I found that Java and Sumatra were under Srivijaya/Sro Bodhi (during that period was in Nakorn Sridhamarat)

This same King Vishanu was the one who conquered Java and Sumatra and merged them into 1 Srivijaya.

He was the one who initiated the building of Borom Buddho but he didn't finish it because there was an attack of Srivijaya mainland (at Nakorn Sridhammarat) so he had to came back to Nakorn.

It was his son and his nephews who finished the building of Brom Buddho in Java.

[SEAhistory]

Since my grandmother was of Chinese descent, I guess that made me a "Sino-Siamese/ Thai",too...But you are right we are no American..those ethnic identity is quite insignificant for us!

We all considered ourselves as Thai...of "The Thai family!"

Wouldn't mind at all ,actually so proud, to know that Siamese is our former name...

Haha, The Chinese-wannabe-Siamese syndrome

[SEAhistory]

ha ha ha .. don't worry I will provide you with the proof after I finish studying all the related materials.

Like I said earlier, Jayavarman II may be King Vishanu himself or his descendent. Go back to read what I posted.

And I found that Java and Sumatra were under Srivijaya/Sro Bodhi (during that period was in Nakorn Sridhamarat)

This same King Vishanu was the one who conquered Java and Sumatra and merged them into 1 Srivijaya.

He was the one who initiated the building of Borom Buddho but he didn't finish it because there was an attack of Srivijaya mainland (at Nakorn Sridhammarat) so he had to came back to Nakorn.

It was his son and his nephews who finished the building of Brom Buddho in Java.

Hahahahahahaha, and what makes you think they are Siamese???????????????????????????????

And what makes you think they are the ancestor of Jayavarman II?

[SEAhistory]

Can you show me an inscription in Mon language from Srivijaya? Or what you claim is Mon language from Sri Vijaya?

Please show me!

[Jin4life]

That's ridiculous to assume us Thais, with your american thinking ok? You sound like a joke to me and many Thais in Thailand. Red/Yellow is pure political greedy. It's not about ethnic conflicts. I think you should come to Thailand and see yourselves what Thai people are and look like!

we are like this... ok? We are happy people. Don't tell me you Lao are all miserable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOSllI2ZsUk...feature=related

Let's just say, I know what I am talking about here. Reason is because many Thai came out directly and talk about Thailand social problems with us Lao people and community. It is very normal for both people to treat each other like brother and sister. But then again there are those other Thai who has no common understanding between the people of Isan,Lanna and Lao as we see in many places in the west coming together.

Most new arrival and the old Thai community here are very comfortable talking about personal political problems and how we should debate it with respect of both country. Which is why Thai and Lao community get along o.k, but not that greatest in either ways.

Also why should I believe what you say here, is actually what most Thais out there whom seem think like you? Even Cambodian community get along with Thai Community, but it seem to be that Thai always bash them in a very harsh position. For me, I just see this unfair to put these innocent Cambodian down.

What is you're query on this part? Isn't a shame to have a Thai like you who seem to show so much pure hate against the Cambodian and even Laotian by all means? While we fight with logic. Thai fight with non-sense!

[SabaiSabai]

Sabai, what you are talking about was the army of Srivijaya striking back Chenla and Champa after it was retreated down south.

Chenla attacked Srivijaya at Chaiya during 745 and it was retreated downsouth to Nakorn Sridhammarat and Kehdah.

Around 20 years later, Srivijaya became stronger and conquered Sumatra, Java (and probably Sri Lanka)

And it striked Chenla to take the power back.

This part of history was during the King called "Vishanu" who claimed himself as a Sailendra king that I've told you earlier.

First I thought he might be Jayavarman II but from the story, he died in Nakorn Sridhammarat after coming back from conquering Java in Indonesia.

He got 2 sons, though. And I am studying where these 2 sons of him went.

I think the event at Po Nagar is a completely isolated event. The raiders were there to rob the temple and treasures. It does not look like an invasion force. There is no description of damage just theft.

Champa was not in the sphere of Funan or Chenla. If Chenla attacked srivijaya in 745AD it would have nothing to do with Champa.