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[Leeporter]

Hahaha! Okay this thread should now be concluded and locked.

Did you come straight from your bed?

Get your coffee yet?

[LoveIsAllAround]

If that your dictionary (Thai dictionary mention Khorm is Khmer) produce less then 50 years! ^^

Even in Silpakorn, Art University, still have debating Khmer is Khom or not. LOL

[chadwarden]

I don't know where you got that name from, it was not recorded by the Chinese, but anyway, Nang Nak or Female Naga was found in several Tai legends.


srei meara is a Sanskrit name of Kun Pan Man



Idiot! Go back to read from page 1.

kaundinya and Hun Tian were 2 different guys.

And for "H"= "K" or not, ask Xigon.



Yes, he was Kun Pan Wang (thousand palaces), Kun Tian's son.



That's Kun Pan Paan (thousand trays), Kun Pan Wang's son.



That was Kun Pan Man, some time Chinese called "Fan Shih-Man" some time they called "Fan Man"
He was Kun Tian's son from another wife. He was the one who moved the center of Funan from Chaiya to NE Thailand, Cambodia and south VN.




That's Khun Pan Jine



Kun Pan Chan (thousan moons)



Kun Pan Chang.

queen soma is of khmer race and she is the beginning of funan

why do i need to ask a vietnamese how h=k vietnamese arent even close to funan they are still up north? why dont you explain it to me since you are a so called expert.
so according to you there were tai speaking people there in 300s ..really? how do you suppose they made it all the way to funan then? and these people are related to the syam the dark skin mon khmer people or no? and what happens by the time chenla comes around? these tai speaking people suddenly whisk off somewhere else? and what exactly is the tai language or dialect they speak 1800 years ago?

[LoveIsAllAround]

lolzzz if that make you feel better! ^^

At least you'd already paid for it.

Dose it use Khmer Phnom Penh or Khmer Surin?

[Leeporter]

great, and if these were suppposed to be Khmer, they would be comprised of many syllables not just one. Khmer language is well known of its rich double consonant. One word of Khmer, should be transcribed to at least 2 Chinese words.

You know why these names can't be neither Khmer nor Chinese?

Because if these names were Khmer or Chinese, those French historians would already made it!

Thos French historians are not dumb, they didn't have to wait until today for 2 Khmer retards (namely SEAhistory and Chad) to tell them these names are Chinese translation of local names.

They still come back every 1-2 years to review what new evidences found that can tell what these names are.

But as long as they still hold their old theory that none Tai-speaking people in this area before 11st century, they wouldn't be able to find it.

[Kdaw_Tmaw]

Did you come straight from your bed?

Get your coffee yet?

And too much coffee for your @$$ [emoticon laugh].

[Leeporter]

queen soma is of khmer race and she is the beginning of funan

Soma was a Tamil, she was one of many wives of Kun Tian. I've talked about her before, go back to read from page 1.

so according to you there were tai speaking people there in 300s ..really? how do you suppose they made it all the way to funan then?

http://s17.postimage.org/e0dj8tdzj/austroasiatic.png

How do you explain Khmer Ler jumping over Tai in Yunnan to reach this area without those Tai knowing?

And was those Tai so dumb not to try to reach the basin near the sea where it's much more richer than the desert of China?

[chadwarden]

You know why these names can't be neither Khmer nor Chinese?

Because if these names were Khmer or Chinese, those French historians would already made it!

Thos French historians are not dumb, they didn't have to wait until today for 2 Khmer retards (namely SEAhistory and Chad) to tell them these names are Chinese translation of local names.

They still come back every 1-2 years to review what new evidences found that can tell what these names are.

But as long as they still hold their old theory that none Tai-speaking people in this area before 11st century, they wouldn't be able to find it.

basically you are saying the tai languages havent changed from 1800 years ago? what is the "tai" language these people in funan speak there are many varieties in case you didnt know.

http://www.cambosastra.org/wp-content/uplo...Khanittanan.pdf sadly written by one of your own once again.

[KhmerBoi]

Even in Silpakorn, Art University, still have debating Khmer is Khom or not. LOL

Give me straige ahead! Didn't Silpakorn Uni, teaching Khmer language? ^^

[SEAhistory]

Chitu was Songkla, south of Nakorn Sridhammarath.

During 1st century, Funan expanded from its first hub in Chaiya to today NE thailand, Cambodia and south VN (by Kun Pan Man) and the rulers of Funan were broke up (during Isaanvarman or a bit earlier) and some of them fled back to southern Thailand and formed Sri Bodhi (Srivijaya) combining Chaiya (Pan Pan), Nakorn Sridhammarath (Ligor), Songkla (Chitu), Kehdah (today in Malaysia) and several other states in Golden Peninsular.

Later they attacked Sumatra and central Java and made what you called "Sailendra Srivijaya.

All point to the same sty.

Hahaha, now you come again with your nonsense. But according to the Chinese, the Funanese sailed from a place that must have been South-Cambodia (the sailing took 10 days to reach Champa). And they were called Kit Mow, so what does that Thai word mean haha. And according to the Chinese centuries later Chi Tu was inhabited by the original inhabitants (Sri Vijaya), which must have been in 7th century. Your such a liar! So again the source of Funan comes from South-Cambodia and again sea-faring was involved. Which was not done by Mon people, since Mon people only capture through land, right SabaiSabai?

So, tell me, when do you suppose these Thai rulers came to Chi Tu? As Chi Tu was founded in 1st century by Funanese??

[Leeporter]

basically you are saying the tai languages havent changed from 1800 years ago? what is the "tai" language these people in funan speak there are many varieties in case you didnt know.

http://www.cambosastra.org/wp-content/uplo...Khanittanan.pdf sadly written by one of your own once again.

Yes, it can be changed but you still can tell that those are Tai names.

Or if you want to say it's Khmer name, please feel free to share your thought.

[Leeporter]

Hahaha, now you come again with your nonsense. But according to the Chinese, the Funanese sailed from a place that must have been South-Cambodia (the sailing took 10 days to reach Champa). And they were called Kit Mow, so what does that Thai word mean haha. And according to the Chinese centuries later Chi Tu was inhabited by the original inhabitants (Sri Vijaya), which must have been in 7th century. Your such a liar! So again the source of Funan comes from South-Cambodia and again sea-faring was involved. Which was not done by Mon people, since Mon people only capture through land, right SabaiSabai?

So, tell me, when do you suppose these Thai rulers came to Chi Tu? As Chi Tu was founded in 1st century by Funanese??

I don't understand what you tried to say.
Go back to read what I said.


Chitu was Songkla, south of Nakorn Sridhammarath.

During 1st century, Funan expanded from its first hub in Chaiya to today NE thailand, Cambodia and south VN (by Kun Pan Man) and the rulers of Funan were broke up (during Isaanvarman or a bit earlier) and some of them fled back to southern Thailand and formed Sri Bodhi (Srivijaya) combining Chaiya (Pan Pan), Nakorn Sridhammarath (Ligor), Songkla (Chitu), Kehdah (today in Malaysia) and several other states in Golden Peninsular.

Later they attacked Sumatra and central Java and made what you called "Sailendra Srivijaya.



This post has been edited by Leeporter: Feb 16 2012, 02:11 AM

[KhmerBoi]

At least you'd already paid for it.

Dose it use Khmer Phnom Penh or Khmer Surin?

At least we all Khmer can understand it.. no matter where you (Khmer) from... And of cause I watch from my Friend laptop I have to ask him how he get it free! ^^

[KhmerBoi]

I don't understand what you tried to say.


Chitu was Songkla, south of Nakorn Sridhammarath.

During 1st century, Funan expanded from its first hub in Chaiya to today NE thailand, Cambodia and south VN (by Kun Pan Man) and the rulers of Funan were broke up (during Isaanvarman or a bit earlier) and some of them fled back to southern Thailand and formed Sri Bodhi (Srivijaya) combining Chaiya (Pan Pan), Nakorn Sridhammarath (Ligor), Songkla (Chitu), Kehdah (today in Malaysia) and several other states in Golden Peninsular.

Later they attacked Sumatra and central Java and made what you called "Sailendra Srivijaya.

And the inscription found in Southern Thailand were written in Khmer using Tamil Script... That make me wonder why don't they using the Tai language insteat! ^^

[Leeporter]

And the inscription found in Southern Thailand were written in Khmer using Tamil Script... That make me wonder why don't they using the Tai language insteat! ^^

Idiot!

This post has been edited by Leeporter: Feb 16 2012, 02:15 AM

[Leeporter]

Idiot!
Hey KhmerBoi,
And why doesn't it make you wonder why they didn't use Khmer names for their ruler? Why Tai name?

[SEAhistory]

And the inscription found in Southern Thailand were written in Khmer using Tamil Script... That make me wonder why don't they using the Tai language insteat! ^^

Because Tamil script was used by the Malays. Also, the architecture of Sri Vijaya is nothing comparible to any of Kambojas culture. So the claim of Kamboja coming from Srivijaya is really stupid.

[chadwarden]

Soma was a Tamil, she was one of many wives of Kun Tian. I've talked about her before, go back to read from page 1.




http://s17.postimage.org/e0dj8tdzj/austroasiatic.png

How do you explain Khmer Ler jumping over Tai in Yunnan to reach this area without those Tai knowing?

And was those Tai so dumb not to try to reach the basin near the sea where it's much more richer than the desert of China?

lol the mon khmer languages didnt leap over anything there were no tai in yunnan in year 10000 read the map bro your line is the blue one austronesian

Lao is one of the many Tai languages of the Southwestern Branch of the three branches of the Tai language family. The origins of the Tai language can be traced back to somewhere in the Guangxi-Guizhou-Hunan region in southern China and bordering areas of northern Vietnam about 2000 years ago. Around the twelfth century, there was a sudden expansion of Tai groups into previously Mon-Khmer areas of Southeast Asia. The Middle Mekong, where most Lao now live, was earlier dominated by non-Thai peoples, primarily those of the Austroasiatic family - the Mon-Khmer in particular. Like most Tai peoples, the Lao live along waterways at low elevations. As a result, the lines of communication were facilitated by water routes, chiefly the Mekong. In fact, some would use the term "Mekong Lao" to refer to the Lao majority living along the banks of this mighty river in contrast to Lao groups, such as the Phuan, who live away from this river. In the intervening 700 years of Lao settlement in the region, Lao dialects have not changed radically. It is safe to say that the dialects of Lao are mutually intelligible from north to south.

[Leeporter]

Because Tamil script was used by the Malays. Also, the architecture of Sri Vijaya is nothing comparible to any of Kambojas culture. So the claim of Kamboja coming from Srivijaya is really stupid.

You mean Khmer Ler built Kambojas culture?

[SEAhistory]

I don't understand what you tried to say.
Go back to read what I said.


Chitu was Songkla, south of Nakorn Sridhammarath.

During 1st century, Funan expanded from its first hub in Chaiya to today NE thailand, Cambodia and south VN (by Kun Pan Man) and the rulers of Funan were broke up (during Isaanvarman or a bit earlier) and some of them fled back to southern Thailand and formed Sri Bodhi (Srivijaya) combining Chaiya (Pan Pan), Nakorn Sridhammarath (Ligor), Songkla (Chitu), Kehdah (today in Malaysia) and several other states in Golden Peninsular.

Later they attacked Sumatra and central Java and made what you called "Sailendra Srivijaya.

Didn't you read it?? According to the Chinese, the Funanese came in the first century with ships from a place ten days sailing away (South-Cambodia). They (Kit Mow) took the lands and inhabited it, after centuries the original inhabitants (Malays) drove the Funanese out and started SriviJaya.

This post has been edited by SEAhistory: Feb 16 2012, 02:27 AM