New Theory on Angkor, Who were the last Varman kings? Options

[SEAhistory]

Let them Khmer see again.... what's real evidence about Varman king and Khmer king.

Suryavarman I to Jayavarman VII period is Siamese
Indravarman III to Jayavarman IX period is Tai
Trosok Peam is Jarai (Cham)
Nippan Bat - today is Khmer (Chong)

Your so stupid, what makes you think these list is correct. We don't know $hit about the history and this is information which is picked together to form a story. In other to know the real history you have to travel back in time to see Siamese kissing Khmers @$$ and then betrayed them.

Please show me when the Chroicles were written please.

This post has been edited by SEAhistory: Feb 21 2012, 06:38 AM

[SEAhistory]

[quote name='Leeporter' date='Feb 20 2012, 09:57 PM' post='5018527']
Err. I am sure he has evidences because I've seen many other papers also says the same thing that Srivijaya rulers were from Funan after it was broken.

Where is your evidence to show that kings of Funan was descendants of Javanese???

Youre sure??? Hahahahahahahahahaha. How sure, I bet he got jack $hit. First you have to prove kings of Funan are Srivijaya. Srivijaya kings are descended from Sumatrans and Javanese.


He said probably, it means maybe.
Kehdah is south of Nakorn Sridhammarat and Chitu was a bit higher, so Chitu is Songkla which is between Nakorn Sridhmmarat (Ligor) and Kehdha.

Anyway, all of these states were annexed into Si-li-fo-shi/Sri Bodhi (G. Coedes wrongly called it Srivijaya)

I don't like maybe, thats how you Thais make up theories. Show me evidence



SEAhistory, I've talked about this before.
The stone inscription found in Palembang was after it was defeated by Srivijaya.
You go back to read it, it contains cursing to people of Palembang. How could the king of Palembang curse his own people?
G. Coedes misinterpreted this. And many scholars already accepted this.
You are still using the old information, SEAhistory. :)color]

[b]Cursing??? Haha, lol. All hail and prosperity! In the year 605 of the Saka calendar, on the eleventh day on the full moon of Waisaka, His Majesty took a boat to make a profit. On the seventh day on the full moon of Jyesta, His Majesty brings 20000 troops and 312 people in boats from firth of Tamvan, With 1312 foot soldiers and came to Matajap happily. On the fifth day on the bright moon of ..., they docked and open a country ... Great, prosperous and peaceful Srivijaya!
[edit] English Translation
"Om swasti astu! All hail and prosperity. In the year 605 of the [Indian] Saka calendar, on the eleventh day at half-moon of Waisaka, Sri Baginda took dugouts in order to obtain siddhayatra.[2] On Day 7, on the 15th day at half-moon of Jyestha, Sri Baginda extricated himself from minānga tāmvan[3]. He took 20,000 troops with him … as many as 200 in dugouts, with 1,312 foot soldiers. They arrived at … Truly merry on the fifteenth day of the half-moon…, agile, happy, and they made a trip to the country … Great Sriwijaya! Prosperity and riches …"





Hahaha, how can you find prove of a fairytale??

[color="#000080"]Idiot, he went by boat from east coast to the west coast.

Huh?? Show me how exactly, lol.

I've read in many articles about the Chenla attacking around 745, that make Srivijaya to retreat down south to Nakorn Sridhammarath and Kehdah. And it took only 20-25 years for Srivijaya to gain back its control over Chenla during the Sailendra king Vidhanu that I already talked about.

What articles?? From your imaginary?




He is not familiar with sounthern thailand and so he mixed up Kantuli in Suratthani with Kacha in Kehdah.

I've shown you earlier Kantuli in Suratthani, north of Pan Pan.

Let me show you again.



Kantoli = Kantuli, north of Pan Pan in Suratthani.




I've proved from Ptomemy map that Java or Zaba or Zabag was in Malay Peninuslar and it was a port city of Pan Pan in Suratthani, and can't be in S.Vietnam or in Indonesia.

Let me show the map again.



The map was drawn by G.E. Gerini using the cordinates and description in Ptolemy's Geographia and it shows clearly that Java was on the east coast of Malay Penisular and can't be in S.Vietnam.

I aksed you to show us how could it be in S.VN and you havn't answered it yet.

I believed that Java in Indonesia was called "Shepo" by Chineses.

Java during Srivijaya was a port city of Pan Pan in Suratthani.




Hun-Tien = Kun Tian.
If Kun Tian sounds Khmer then what is Hun Pankwang (Kun Pan Wang)?


Please show me any description of the route to Srivijaya being in Malay Peninsular, please??

This post has been edited by SEAhistory: Feb 21 2012, 06:40 AM

[SEAhistory]

Leedorker, why are you so selective in answering questions?? You disregard many evidences and are only able to answer a few things that you twist and turn to fit your believes.

And why you say, I bet he got sources, and uses words as perhaps and could be?? Youre so selective and cant prove anything.

This post has been edited by SEAhistory: Feb 21 2012, 06:11 AM

[SEAhistory]

Also, please show me that Malay peninsular after 680 contains Funanese culture, since you claim Srivijaya came from Funan. Also, please show me Kamboja after 780 AD has Srivijayan culture, since you claim jayavarman II came from Srivijaya.

Also, please show me how Siamese culture disappeared and made way for a new culture with new language (Old malay), please tell us how this happened..

[SEAhistory]

Hinayana Buddhism was set deep roots in the land of Suvarnbhumi long before the birth of Funan. Only Mon people were populated in Siam (Suvarnbhumi). What do you think culture that influence Funan?

Only Mon??? what about Pyu idiot

[SEAhistory]

Suzuki is really a douchebag for writing that report. it doesnt make sense, he assumpts everything like Srivijaya came from Funan, and Chenla attacking Chaiya in 745, and placing kingdoms and using different names for the same places.. Suzuki is fu-king moron, I bet he doesnt have PHD, but DS (Down Syndrom).

If thats ur most important evidence, you are pretty pathetic.

[SEAhistory]

And Again: IF HUNTIEN WAS A SIAMESE WHY WAS HE WAS REPORTED TO COME FROM SOUTH???????? WAS SIAM BEFORE IN SOUTH? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[SEAhistory]

Yi Jing who visited Malay archipelago between 688-695, also mentioned about a kingdom known as Ka-Cha in the northern part of Malay peninsular, which according to him was 30 days sail from Bogha (Palembang), the capital of Sribogha (Srivijaya).

How explain this, the 30 days sail???? please explain me as well..

[LoveIsAllAround]

Your so stupid, what makes you think these list is correct. We don't know $hit about the history and this is information which is picked together to form a story. In other to know the real history you have to travel back in time to see Siamese kissing Khmers @$$ and then betrayed them.

Please show me when the Chroicles were written please.

why won't you prove that those kings are Khmer? LMAO!!!

[LoveIsAllAround]

And Again: IF HUNTIEN WAS A SIAMESE WHY WAS HE WAS REPORTED TO COME FROM SOUTH???????? WAS SIAM BEFORE IN SOUTH? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Central Thailand + Southern Thailand including the whole Malay penn. were Siam. Is it south?

[LoveIsAllAround]

Suzuki is really a douchebag for writing that report. it doesnt make sense, he assumpts everything like Srivijaya came from Funan, and Chenla attacking Chaiya in 745, and placing kingdoms and using different names for the same places.. Suzuki is fu-king moron, I bet he doesnt have PHD, but DS (Down Syndrom).

If thats ur most important evidence, you are pretty pathetic.

and who are you? a PHD???

Suzuki is your douch becos he is not a French. LMAO!!!

[LoveIsAllAround]

Only Mon??? what about Pyu idiot

Look at SOUTHEAST ASIA map, you retard!!!

LMAO!!!

[SEAhistory]

I have proven already that South-Cambodia is the source of Funan/Chenla and Kamboja. Show me evidence South-Cambodia is not the source and I believe it is not Khmer.

Here, about Sri Vijaya:

Inscribed stone (stele) Palas is located in the village Pasemah Palas, Palas subdistrict, South Lampung. As we drove toward the city of Bandar Lampung Bakauheni, about 20 km from the port of Bakauheni MTA will find the intersection of the center lane Palas and Lampung. We, too, turn right and go as far as 10 miles to arrive at the historical tourist sites Palas.


Inscribed stone inscriptions Pasemah Palas is a kingdom of Srivijaya relics discovered in 1957 in Palas Pasemah, Kalianda area, Lampung. Consists of 13 rows, but row-1 through the 3rd missing. The contents of the inscription originally discussed by Prof.. Dr. Buchari in the article: Buchari, "An Old Inscription of Srivijaya Malay at Palas Pasemah (South Lampung)", Pre Srivijaya Research Seminar, Center for Archeological Research and National Heritage, Jakarta, 1979.

Need to ask a lot of people along the village road Palas, so as not to miss when looking for the location. This inscription is as less promoted, but the site where the inscription was well maintained Palas Village Road was a smooth asphalt that divides the village with beautiful scenery and exotic.

Palas inscribed stone inscription is one of the stele inscriptions persumapahan Sriwijaya.
"Persumpahan inscriptions", ie inscriptions containing curses and threats for those who oppose or do not want to devote to the king of Srivijaya. The term "parsumpahan" is derived from the Srivijaya king himself, as contained in such inscriptions. Srivijaya inscription inscription belonging persumpahan are inscriptions Stone Lake, Town Chalk, Coral lust, and Palas Pasemah. Perhaps in the future will still be found inscriptions persumpahan others.

Inscription TELAGA STONE found in 1935 in Stone Lake, Sabukingking 2 Ilir, Palembang. Consisting of 28 lines, the state emblem decorated in the form of a dragon with seven heads Srivijaya. Now stored at the Museum Center, Jakarta, with a number D.155. The inscription was first published by Prof.. Dr. Johannes de Casparis Gijsbertus in the book: J.G. de Casparis, Indonesia Inscription II: Selected inscriptions from the 7th to the 9th Century AD, the Department of Antiquities of the Republic of Indonesia, The New, Bandung, 1956.

CITY CHALK inscription discovered in 1892 in the City Limestone, Jetty Mundo, the west coast of the island of Bangka. Consisting of 10 lines, and numbered at the Museum Center D.90. The inscription was first discussed by Prof.. Dr. Hendrik Kern in the article: H. Kern, "Van De Inscriptie Limestone City", Bijdragen Koninklijk Instituut (BKI), deel 67, 1913.

CORAL inscriptions found passion in 1904 at Coral area lust, Edinburgh. Consists of 16 rows, first transcribed by prof. Dr. Johannes Nicholaas Krom in the article: N.J. Krom, "Van De Coral Inscriptie Brahi", Tijdschrift Bataviaasch Genootschap (TBG), deel 59, 1920.

Palas Pasemah inscriptions found in 1957 in Palas Pasemah, Kalianda area, Lampung. Consists of 13 rows, but row-1 through the 3rd missing. The contents of the inscription originally discussed by Prof.. Dr. Buchari in the article: Buchari, "An Old Inscription of Srivijaya Malay at Palas Pasemah (South Lampung)", Pre Srivijaya Research Seminar, Center for Archeological Research and National Heritage, Jakarta, 1979.

Of the four pieces persumpahan inscription above, only one of which dates to the year, the City Kapur inscription carved in the year 608 Saka (686 AD). Therefore the content of the inscriptions are almost the same, then it is very likely all persumpahan inscriptions were carved in the same year.


Who is the king of Srivijaya who issued inscriptions persumpahan it? Let's look at the contents of the inscriptions carved Gutters Tuwo two years earlier. Gutters Tuwo inscription begins with the sentence:

Swasti CRI. 606 çakawarsatita dim dwitiya çuklapaksa quarterly caitra, there tatkalanya parlak this çriksetra niparwuat, Parwan Dapunta Cri jayanaça hyang.

Translation in now:

"Happy, successful. Saka year 606 passed the second day of the month paroterang Caitra (March 23 = 684), it's time to park Sriksetra this done, the statutes Dapunta Hyang Sri Jayanasa. "

Here we get the full name of the king of Srivijaya: Dapunta Hyang Sri Jayanasa. If between the years 684 and 686 there is no change of the king, then that's what he would issue a persumpahan inscriptions.


In the last line of the inscription Limestone City listed the following caption:

608 çakawarsatita dim pratipada çuklapaksa waiçakha quarterly, which tatkalanya nipahat mangmang this oath, in which wala çriwijaya welanya kaliwat manapik the Grounds java tida çriwijaya bhakti ka.

"Saka year 608 passed the first day of the month paroterang Waisaka (February 28 = 686), time to spell this oath carved, when the Srivijaya elapse troops invaded Java land that is not devoted to the Srivijaya."

Above description shows the background and motivation expenditure persumpahan inscriptions by the king of Srivijaya. Apparently Dapunta Hyang Sri Jayanasa worried that the rebellion arose within the jurisdiction of Srivijaya Srivijaya as troops stormed the island of Java is being deployed. As a preventative measure, issued a clear warning Dapunta Hyang throughout his realm, as we can read the inscriptions on all persumpahan:

kadaci that urang therein Grounds this kadatuan ajnyanya parawis, drohaka wangun, samawuddhi drohaka opponent, mangujari drohaka, niujari drohaka, know dim drohaka, tida marpadah yes, yes tida bhakti for all, no yes I tatwarjawa on view at the nigalarku Sanyasa datua, dhawa wuatnya urang Inan, niwunuh oath yes, yes tapik nisuruh mulang parwandan çriwijaya datu, Talu muah view gotrasantananya yes.

"Wherever there are people in this kingdom's territory entirely, build iniquity (rebellion), cooperation with the mutineers, mutineers, rebuke, reprimand mutineers, in agreement with the mutineers, he did not obey, he is not filial, he was not faithful to me by the leaders of the region that kugelari , wicked deeds, he will be killed oath, he would be told to attacking on the orders of the king Srivijaya, will be crushed him with all his family. "

Read the contents of the inscriptions persumpahan above, it can be imagined that Dapunta Hyang is a brilliant politician. Before he launched an expansion into foreign territory, domestic stability is noticed. Surely persumpahan inscriptions were placed on the countries that allow the emergence of insurgency. Until now persumpahan inscriptions recently discovered in Palembang, Bangka, Jambi and Lampung. This shows that the power of Srivijaya in the year 686 had at least cover these areas.

The existence of persumpahan Lake Stone inscriptions in Palembang cause Prof. Dr. Sukmono refused locations in the capital of Palembang Srivijaya. In his "On Localization of Srivijaya", Report of the First National Congress of Sciences, Volume 5, Assembly Sciences Indonesia, Djakarta, 1958, Sukmono ask the following questions (adapted to EYD 1972): "If indeed the capital of Palembang Srivijaya, could make sense that curses in the form of terrible threats is actually enshrined in the capital? Could it be the capital of its own citizens thus threatened by the king? "

Prof. question. Sukmono this needs to be answered with another question: "Does not make sense that rebellion may occur in the capital? Is not that time the capital is empty without power, because the army is being mobilized to invade Java Land? "

The revolt in the capital are even more dangerous than a rebellion in the lands of subordinates, as they may be done by people close to Dapunta Hyang and directly related to the central government. Dapunta Hyang certainly not ignore the existence of such a coup of the "grand coalition" of high officials of the kingdom. That is why he sees the need to give warnings and threats in the capital of Srivijaya.

In the history many of us find that a ruler was stabbed by the enemy in the blanket, when the rulers were busy thinking about the problem of "foreign". This happens, for instance, the king of the Kingdom Singhasari Kertanagara the 13th century. Kertanagara Singhasari send massive troops into Malay (Edinburgh) in anticipation of a possible attack from Mongol armies of China to the archipelago, but he was negligent in Singhasari own attention to security. Vassals, Jayakatwang of Kadiri, to exploit the situation for the overthrow of the throne Kertanagara. This is the consequence if a ruler to ignore security in the capital.

Lake Stone inscription proves that the kingdom of Srivijaya's capital in Palembang, because the inscription mentions a lot of public office only to be found in the capital of a country. Fill Lake Stone inscriptions third to the fifth row are as follows:

You wanyakmamu, rajaputra, prostara, bhupati, senapati, Nayaka, pratyaya, hajipratyaya, dandanayaka, .... murddhaka, tuhaan watakwuruh, addhyaksi nijawarna, wasikarana, kumaramatya, çatabatha, adhikarana, karmma ...., kayastha, sthapaka, puhawang , waniyaga, pratisara, you Marsi pilgrimage, hajj hulun, wanyakmamu urang, niwunuh oath of mangmang you kadaci tida bhakti in me.

"You all: the son of kings, ministers, regents, commander, princes, officials, court officials, judges, .... murddhaka, chairman of the workers, supervisors commoners, weapons experts, the board of the youth, sportsmen, construction workers, karmma ... , clerk, architect, skippers, merchants, captains, ye servants palace, the palace, all men, were killed when the oath of spells you do not worship me. "

Positions listed above only the inscription Stone Lake, and not mentioned or mentioned in the inscriptions persumpahan others. Therefore it is the positions of high office in a government, of course, its officials living in the capital. By itself the inscription must be installed in an environment inhabited by the officials. On that basis it can be concluded that the center of Srivijaya Kingdom government is very likely located in the vicinity of Stone Lake, Palembang.

This post has been edited by SEAhistory: Feb 21 2012, 06:55 AM

[LoveIsAllAround]

Also, please show me that Malay peninsular after 680 contains Funanese culture, since you claim Srivijaya came from Funan. Also, please show me Kamboja after 780 AD has Srivijayan culture, since you claim jayavarman II came from Srivijaya.

Also, please show me how Siamese culture disappeared and made way for a new culture with new language (Old malay), please tell us how this happened..

Hinayana Buddhist Mon era is prior to Funan.

Dvaravati Mon is prior to your faked Khme empire.

Do you really think they didn't influence Funan and your Khmer @$$?

LMAO!!! 555+

[SEAhistory]

Central Thailand + Southern Thailand including the whole Malay penn. were Siam. Is it south?

Huntian sailed from the southern country Jiaou. Show me Mon presence south of Malay Peninsular please

[SEAhistory]

Hinayana Buddhist Mon era is prior to Funan.

Dvaravati Mon is prior to your faked Khme empire.

Do you really think they didn't influence Funan and your Khmer @$$?

LMAO!!! 555+

Not before Funan, and allthough Mon were great people, they never acclompished what Khmers conquerred.

[LoveIsAllAround]

I have proven already that South-Cambodia is the source of Funan/Chenla and Kamboja. Show me evidence South-Cambodia is not the source and I believe it is not Khmer.

Here, about Sri Vijaya:

Inscribed stone (stele) Palas is located in the village Pasemah Palas, Palas subdistrict, South Lampung. As we drove toward the city of Bandar Lampung Bakauheni, about 20 km from the port of Bakauheni MTA will find the intersection of the center lane Palas and Lampung. We, too, turn right and go as far as 10 miles to arrive at the historical tourist sites Palas.


Inscribed stone inscriptions Pasemah Palas is a kingdom of Srivijaya relics discovered in 1957 in Palas Pasemah, Kalianda area, Lampung. Consists of 13 rows, but row-1 through the 3rd missing. The contents of the inscription originally discussed by Prof.. Dr. Buchari in the article: Buchari, "An Old Inscription of Srivijaya Malay at Palas Pasemah (South Lampung)", Pre Srivijaya Research Seminar, Center for Archeological Research and National Heritage, Jakarta, 1979.

Need to ask a lot of people along the village road Palas, so as not to miss when looking for the location. This inscription is as less promoted, but the site where the inscription was well maintained Palas Village Road was a smooth asphalt that divides the village with beautiful scenery and exotic.

Palas inscribed stone inscription is one of the stele inscriptions persumapahan Sriwijaya.
"Persumpahan inscriptions", ie inscriptions containing curses and threats for those who oppose or do not want to devote to the king of Srivijaya. The term "parsumpahan" is derived from the Srivijaya king himself, as contained in such inscriptions. Srivijaya inscription inscription belonging persumpahan are inscriptions Stone Lake, Town Chalk, Coral lust, and Palas Pasemah. Perhaps in the future will still be found inscriptions persumpahan others.

Inscription TELAGA STONE found in 1935 in Stone Lake, Sabukingking 2 Ilir, Palembang. Consisting of 28 lines, the state emblem decorated in the form of a dragon with seven heads Srivijaya. Now stored at the Museum Center, Jakarta, with a number D.155. The inscription was first published by Prof.. Dr. Johannes de Casparis Gijsbertus in the book: J.G. de Casparis, Indonesia Inscription II: Selected inscriptions from the 7th to the 9th Century AD, the Department of Antiquities of the Republic of Indonesia, The New, Bandung, 1956.

CITY CHALK inscription discovered in 1892 in the City Limestone, Jetty Mundo, the west coast of the island of Bangka. Consisting of 10 lines, and numbered at the Museum Center D.90. The inscription was first discussed by Prof.. Dr. Hendrik Kern in the article: H. Kern, "Van De Inscriptie Limestone City", Bijdragen Koninklijk Instituut (BKI), deel 67, 1913.

CORAL inscriptions found passion in 1904 at Coral area lust, Edinburgh. Consists of 16 rows, first transcribed by prof. Dr. Johannes Nicholaas Krom in the article: N.J. Krom, "Van De Coral Inscriptie Brahi", Tijdschrift Bataviaasch Genootschap (TBG), deel 59, 1920.

Palas Pasemah inscriptions found in 1957 in Palas Pasemah, Kalianda area, Lampung. Consists of 13 rows, but row-1 through the 3rd missing. The contents of the inscription originally discussed by Prof.. Dr. Buchari in the article: Buchari, "An Old Inscription of Srivijaya Malay at Palas Pasemah (South Lampung)", Pre Srivijaya Research Seminar, Center for Archeological Research and National Heritage, Jakarta, 1979.

Of the four pieces persumpahan inscription above, only one of which dates to the year, the City Kapur inscription carved in the year 608 Saka (686 AD). Therefore the content of the inscriptions are almost the same, then it is very likely all persumpahan inscriptions were carved in the same year.


Who is the king of Srivijaya who issued inscriptions persumpahan it? Let's look at the contents of the inscriptions carved Gutters Tuwo two years earlier. Gutters Tuwo inscription begins with the sentence:

Swasti CRI. 606 çakawarsatita dim dwitiya çuklapaksa quarterly caitra, there tatkalanya parlak this çriksetra niparwuat, Parwan Dapunta Cri jayanaça hyang.

Translation in now:

"Happy, successful. Saka year 606 passed the second day of the month paroterang Caitra (March 23 = 684), it's time to park Sriksetra this done, the statutes Dapunta Hyang Sri Jayanasa. "

Here we get the full name of the king of Srivijaya: Dapunta Hyang Sri Jayanasa. If between the years 684 and 686 there is no change of the king, then that's what he would issue a persumpahan inscriptions.


In the last line of the inscription Limestone City listed the following caption:

608 çakawarsatita dim pratipada çuklapaksa waiçakha quarterly, which tatkalanya nipahat mangmang this oath, in which wala çriwijaya welanya kaliwat manapik the Grounds java tida çriwijaya bhakti ka.

"Saka year 608 passed the first day of the month paroterang Waisaka (February 28 = 686), time to spell this oath carved, when the Srivijaya elapse troops invaded Java land that is not devoted to the Srivijaya."

Above description shows the background and motivation expenditure persumpahan inscriptions by the king of Srivijaya. Apparently Dapunta Hyang Sri Jayanasa worried that the rebellion arose within the jurisdiction of Srivijaya Srivijaya as troops stormed the island of Java is being deployed. As a preventative measure, issued a clear warning Dapunta Hyang throughout his realm, as we can read the inscriptions on all persumpahan:

kadaci that urang therein Grounds this kadatuan ajnyanya parawis, drohaka wangun, samawuddhi drohaka opponent, mangujari drohaka, niujari drohaka, know dim drohaka, tida marpadah yes, yes tida bhakti for all, no yes I tatwarjawa on view at the nigalarku Sanyasa datua, dhawa wuatnya urang Inan, niwunuh oath yes, yes tapik nisuruh mulang parwandan çriwijaya datu, Talu muah view gotrasantananya yes.

"Wherever there are people in this kingdom's territory entirely, build iniquity (rebellion), cooperation with the mutineers, mutineers, rebuke, reprimand mutineers, in agreement with the mutineers, he did not obey, he is not filial, he was not faithful to me by the leaders of the region that kugelari , wicked deeds, he will be killed oath, he would be told to attacking on the orders of the king Srivijaya, will be crushed him with all his family. "

Read the contents of the inscriptions persumpahan above, it can be imagined that Dapunta Hyang is a brilliant politician. Before he launched an expansion into foreign territory, domestic stability is noticed. Surely persumpahan inscriptions were placed on the countries that allow the emergence of insurgency. Until now persumpahan inscriptions recently discovered in Palembang, Bangka, Jambi and Lampung. This shows that the power of Srivijaya in the year 686 had at least cover these areas.

The existence of persumpahan Lake Stone inscriptions in Palembang cause Prof. Dr. Sukmono refused locations in the capital of Palembang Srivijaya. In his "On Localization of Srivijaya", Report of the First National Congress of Sciences, Volume 5, Assembly Sciences Indonesia, Djakarta, 1958, Sukmono ask the following questions (adapted to EYD 1972): "If indeed the capital of Palembang Srivijaya, could make sense that curses in the form of terrible threats is actually enshrined in the capital? Could it be the capital of its own citizens thus threatened by the king? "

Prof. question. Sukmono this needs to be answered with another question: "Does not make sense that rebellion may occur in the capital? Is not that time the capital is empty without power, because the army is being mobilized to invade Java Land? "

The revolt in the capital are even more dangerous than a rebellion in the lands of subordinates, as they may be done by people close to Dapunta Hyang and directly related to the central government. Dapunta Hyang certainly not ignore the existence of such a coup of the "grand coalition" of high officials of the kingdom. That is why he sees the need to give warnings and threats in the capital of Srivijaya.

In the history many of us find that a ruler was stabbed by the enemy in the blanket, when the rulers were busy thinking about the problem of "foreign". This happens, for instance, the king of the Kingdom Singhasari Kertanagara the 13th century. Kertanagara Singhasari send massive troops into Malay (Edinburgh) in anticipation of a possible attack from Mongol armies of China to the archipelago, but he was negligent in Singhasari own attention to security. Vassals, Jayakatwang of Kadiri, to exploit the situation for the overthrow of the throne Kertanagara. This is the consequence if a ruler to ignore security in the capital.

Lake Stone inscription proves that the kingdom of Srivijaya's capital in Palembang, because the inscription mentions a lot of public office only to be found in the capital of a country. Fill Lake Stone inscriptions third to the fifth row are as follows:

You wanyakmamu, rajaputra, prostara, bhupati, senapati, Nayaka, pratyaya, hajipratyaya, dandanayaka, .... murddhaka, tuhaan watakwuruh, addhyaksi nijawarna, wasikarana, kumaramatya, çatabatha, adhikarana, karmma ...., kayastha, sthapaka, puhawang , waniyaga, pratisara, you Marsi pilgrimage, hajj hulun, wanyakmamu urang, niwunuh oath of mangmang you kadaci tida bhakti in me.

"You all: the son of kings, ministers, regents, commander, princes, officials, court officials, judges, .... murddhaka, chairman of the workers, supervisors commoners, weapons experts, the board of the youth, sportsmen, construction workers, karmma ... , clerk, architect, skippers, merchants, captains, ye servants palace, the palace, all men, were killed when the oath of spells you do not worship me. "

Positions listed above only the inscription Stone Lake, and not mentioned or mentioned in the inscriptions persumpahan others. Therefore it is the positions of high office in a government, of course, its officials living in the capital. By itself the inscription must be installed in an environment inhabited by the officials. On that basis it can be concluded that the center of Srivijaya Kingdom government is very likely located in the vicinity of Stone Lake, Palembang.

You said that... Srivijaya was formerly Kantoli

Kantoli, the predecessor of Srivijaya... is in Chaiya, Siam. LMAO!!!



This post has been edited by LoveIsAllAround: Feb 21 2012, 06:53 AM

[LoveIsAllAround]

Huntian sailed from the southern country Jiaou. Show me Mon presence south of Malay Peninsular please

Mon were the indigenous of the whole Siam. Do you know how big is the old SIam, that includes the whole Malay Penn. you dumbass.

While the Mon were living in Siam, you Khmer were living on Mekhong delta. Malays (Austronesians) were on islands.

This post has been edited by LoveIsAllAround: Feb 21 2012, 06:58 AM

[SEAhistory]

and who are you? a PHD???

Suzuki is your douch becos he is not a French. LMAO!!!

He relies on false information from a Frenchguy (Coedes). So whu you assume French and Khmer have a conspiracy, haha. Youre such a moron. I use only information I do find reliable from French. I can think for myself, not like some Thai people, they believe fairy tales.

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Not before Funan, and allthough Mon were great people, they never acclompished what Khmers conquerred.

Hinayana buddhism spread to Suvarnbhumi in around 300 BC. What do you mean not before Funan? LOL