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New Theory on Angkor, Who were the last Varman kings?
KhmerBoi
post Jan 18 2012, 02:56 AM
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QUOTE (indiglo @ Jan 18 2012, 02:49 PM) *
thats my point bro:)

And you will found it hard to explains this guy, bong~ (bong mean bro-sister) sorry I don't know English word to call you correct because I dont know you wether brother or sister! ~ ^^
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post Jan 18 2012, 03:00 AM
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QUOTE (KhmerBoi @ Jan 18 2012, 02:50 AM) *
Can you tell me another Hindu temple which was build earlier then Phnom Da in is SEA mainland?


KhmerBoi, you are talking about temples in 11th -12nd century, we are now talking about 1st to 7th century history or Funan. icon_smile.gif

Temples you mentioned is relatively new so its ruin remain found.

The older one like those were not left to be seen or not as complete as those new one.

I can show you some Brahman's sites found in southern Thailand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvEQ3wjj5pU

This is the same place we found Funan art in my previous post below.

http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?...t&p=4978634

Now, go back to answer "where do you think Funan was?"




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post Jan 18 2012, 03:04 AM
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QUOTE (indiglo @ Jan 18 2012, 02:52 AM) *
then where was java bhumi icon_smile.gif i 've never heard this name


indiglo, you are talking with no logic here. icon_smile.gif

I can use your logic and ask you where was Jambudweep? I bever heard of it, I only heard Jambudvipa that refer to Indian continent.

Or you mean Jambudvipa = Indian island?

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post Jan 18 2012, 03:08 AM
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QUOTE (KhmerBoi @ Jan 18 2012, 03:47 PM) *
I think you are so right!!!!!


imo Suvharna Dvipa and Suvharna Bhumi it's seem like analogy
Mexico City and Mexico ,Mexico city as the capital of a whole Mexico
Suvharna Dvipa the Island Of Sumtra (gold) and Suvharna Bhumi as a whole SEA mainland

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post Jan 18 2012, 03:09 AM
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QUOTE (Leeporter @ Jan 18 2012, 03:00 PM) *
KhmerBoi, you are talking about temples in 11th -12nd century, we are now talking about 1st to 7th century history or Funan. icon_smile.gif

Temples you mentioned is relatively new so its ruin remain found.

The older one like those were not left to be seen or not as complete as those new one.

I can show you some Brahman's sites found in southern Thailand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvEQ3wjj5pU

This is the same place we found Funan art in my previous post below.

http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?...t&p=4978634

Now, go back to answer "where do you think Funan was?"


It tell me that you have no idea of what is Funan..

http://angkorjourney.asievoyage.org/takeo.html
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post Jan 18 2012, 03:10 AM
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QUOTE (indiglo @ Jan 18 2012, 03:08 AM) *
imo Suvharna Dvipa and Suvharna Bhumi it's seem like analogy
Mexico City and Mexico ,Mexico city as the capital of a whole Mexico
Suvharna Dvipa the Island Of Sumtra (gold) and Suvharna Bhumi as a whole SEA mainland

cmiiw


indiglo, the reason you feel like that because you read translation of the word Dvipa in English which is island.

Actually, Dvipa is better interpreted as "continent"
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post Jan 18 2012, 03:10 AM
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QUOTE (Leeporter @ Jan 18 2012, 04:04 PM) *
indiglo, you are talking with no logic here. icon_smile.gif

I can use your logic and ask you where was Jambudweep? I bever heard of it, I only heard Jambudvipa that refer to Indian continent.

Or you mean Jambudvipa = Indian island?

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lol Dvipa = Dweep , dweep word only by yours i never in many International sources meet word dweep for dvip/dvipa

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post Jan 18 2012, 03:13 AM
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QUOTE (Leeporter @ Jan 18 2012, 04:10 PM) *
indiglo, the reason you feel like that because you read translation of the word Dvipa in English which is island.

Actually, Dvipa is better interpreted as "continent"


continent is refer to Land (Bhumi) not Island

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QUOTE (KhmerBoi @ Jan 18 2012, 03:09 AM) *
It tell me that you have no idea of what is Funan..

http://angkorjourney.asievoyage.org/takeo.html


KhmerBoi, what you shown us was the temple in late Funan, early Chola.

I've talked about how the Chola was built by Kun Tian in my early post here.
http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?...t&p=4977946

Chola was another dynasty splitted from one of Kun Tian (Chinese called Hun Tien)'s wife.

Now, go back to my question, where do you think Funan was?
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QUOTE (indiglo @ Jan 18 2012, 03:10 AM) *
lol Dvipa = Dweep , dweep word only by yours i never in many International sources meet word dweep for dvip/dvipa


Yes, Dweep is my Thai tongue for Dvip. What's the big deal? icon_smile.gif

Have you heard of "Jambu Bhumi" ?
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QUOTE (Leeporter @ Jan 18 2012, 04:18 PM) *
Yes, Dweep is my Thai tongue for Dvip. What's the big deal? icon_smile.gif

Have you heard of "Jambu Bhumi" ?



Both Jambu dvipa and java dvipa never have bhumi word , But The Suvharna dvipa and Suvharna Bhumi had been existed for thousand years .
can you see, Suvharna sounded Sumatra?
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post Jan 18 2012, 03:35 AM
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QUOTE (Leeporter @ Jan 18 2012, 03:16 PM) *

KhmerBoi, what you shown us was the temple in late Funan, early Chola.

I've talked about how the Chola was built by Kun Tian in my early post here.
http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?...t&p=4977946

Chola was another dynasty splitted from one of Kun Tian (Chinese called Hun Tien)'s wife.

Now, go back to my question, where do you think Funan was?


Funan Kingdom
The Funan Kingdom was a pre-angkorian civilization located in the Mekong delta of south Cambodia and south Vietnam. The development of new trade routes between China and Indian on the first century AD encouraged the appearence of settlers in the area and according to Chinese records, one of the first settlements was Funan. archaeological evidence found at Oc-Eo (in Vietnam) such as roman coins, indian jewelry and Buddhist religious objects, shows that the Kingdom of Funan was a powerful trading state.Other archaeological discoveries such as a large canal system linking various settlelments within the Kingdom reveals a highly organized society with a high population density and advanced technology.

The origins of the inhabitants of the Funan Kingdom are much disputed. The most accepted theory relates that they were a tribe that spoke a tongue of the Mon Khmer family languages, thus creating a linguistic link with the Cambodians. Also, Chinese records relate the origin of the Funan people using the same origin myth that has been used in Khmer folklore to explain the origins of the Khmers: A foreign indian prince arrives by sea to an island where the Naga Kings live and meets the daughter of the naga king. He marries her with the blessing of her father, who drinks the sea around the island and builds a capital for them.

http://www.aboutasiatravel.com/cambodia/hi...nan-kingdom.htm

Where you get the name Kun Tien from???

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post Jan 18 2012, 03:40 AM
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QUOTE (KhmerBoi @ Jan 18 2012, 03:36 AM) *
As far as I understand in Most of SEA Asia coutry claiming Sovannabhumi as in their country... In cambodia we claim it too but we also say that it was refer to theses region SEA and of cause now there many coutry right now there isno wrong if Singaporian claim it too. But one thing I can claim it here is... The word Tvib or Dveep I think u can't just base on your second hand used language to claim of their meaning in origin.. Like leeporter did.. Well, in Khmer it mean continent too. But it not mean all the time continent it can be mean place.

Like ancient Indian call Funan as Sakakdveep (Norkor Kokthlok in Khmer, not sakak is is tree which very similar to thlok tree, and Kokthlok I think those word is very hard for Indian to pronoun that why they need to used the word sakak instead of the original but still very closed). And I believe that Javadveep is already directly pointing to Java or Javanese why you need to claim as something els.

Like ancient Indian call Funan as Sakakdveep
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In Thai's modern meaning of Suvarnbhumi and Suvarndvip is Mainland SEA and Maritime SEA. Easy as that.

But if someone wanna know where the place, King Asoke the great of Ancient India called Suvarnbhumi. I think It'd be Southern Thailand near Klong Tom and Taguapa.
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And still I asked you which temple is older then Phnom Da in SEA Mainland!
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QUOTE (LoveIsAllAround @ Jan 18 2012, 03:40 PM) *
Like ancient Indian call Funan as Sakakdveep
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show everybody your source.


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In Thai's modern meaning of Suvarnbhumi and Suvarndvip is Mainland SEA and Maritime SEA. Easy as that.

But if someone wanna know where the place, King Asoke the great of Ancient India called Suvarnbhumi. I think It'd be Southern Thailand near Klong Tom and Taguapa.


History of Cambodia by David Chandler
http://www.amazon.com/History-Cambodia-3E-...r/dp/0813335116
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QUOTE (LoveIsAllAround @ Jan 18 2012, 03:40 PM) *
Like ancient Indian call Funan as Sakakdveep
^
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show everybody your source.


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In Thai's modern meaning of Suvarnbhumi and Suvarndvip is Mainland SEA and Maritime SEA. Easy as that.

But if someone wanna know where the place, King Asoke the great of Ancient India called Suvarnbhumi. I think It'd be Southern Thailand near Klong Tom and Taguapa.


I think they call Sovannabhumi because of the trading so who were trade mostly with Indian during that time?? Siem or Thai? both were not existed yet!!!

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द्वीप dvIpa m. n. island
द्वीप dvIpa m. place of refuge
द्वीप dvIpa m. division of the world
द्वीप dvIpa m. shelter
द्वीप dvIpa m. protection or protector
द्वीप dvIpa n. continent

Ancient India (India+Pakistan+Nepal+Sri Lanka+Bangaladesh) is Shambudvipa ชมพูทวิป It's not an island but is big as (small) continent.
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QUOTE (KhmerBoi @ Jan 18 2012, 04:53 AM) *
I think they call Sovannabhumi because of the trading so who were trade mostly with Indian during that time?? Siem or Thai? both were not existed yet!!!


Your thinking is just same as child. LOL

Ancient Indian came to SEA must came to the west of SEA. There are many places in Burma, Southern THailand, Malaysia and Indonesia, that discovered ancient Indian evidences. Do you think Indians can jump over Southern Thailand to your Camboland? LOL

Many ancient beads are found in Southern Thailand, it's proved that Southern Thailand was a major port between the west (Roman, Arab, Indian) and the East (China). And only Tri-Ratana beads found in this area too. Tri-Ratana beads' age is around 3AD. Tri-Ratana bead is like Buddha image in modern day. So, where do you think that Buddhist monks who traveled to Suvarnbhumi by King Asoke the great's order landed? In Cambodia? embarassedlaugh.gif
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QUOTE (LoveIsAllAround @ Jan 18 2012, 04:04 PM) *
Your thinking is just same as child. LOL

Ancient Indian came to SEA must came to the west of SEA. There are many places in Burma, Southern THailand, Malaysia and Indonesia, that discovered ancient Indian evidences. Do you think Indians can jump over Southern Thailand to your Camboland? LOL

Many ancient beads are found in Southern Thailand, it's proved that Southern Thailand was a major port between the west (Roman, Arab, Indian) and the East (China). And only Tri-Ratana beads found in this area too. Tri-Ratana beads' age is around 3AD. Tri-Ratana bead is like Buddha image in modern day. So, where do you think that Buddhist monks who traveled to Suvarnbhumi by King Asoke the great's order landed? In Cambodia? embarassedlaugh.gif


Source?
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Greater India: The expansion of Indian culture and influence both in Central Asia and the South East towards the countries and islands of the Pacific is one of the momentous factors of world history.

http://www.hinduwisdom.info/Suvarnabhumi.htm

(image source: A Survey of Indian History - By Sardar Kavalam Madhava Panikkar).




from This map we know (please click this image for original size)

1.Suvarna Dvipa is Sumatra
2. Varun/Varuna Dvipa is Borneo Island
3Java Dvipa is Java Island
3Malaya Dvipa = malaya peninsula
4.Bali Dvipa is Bali Island
5.Burma is Indra Dvipa
6. Srilanka = lanka dvipa



and what is the ancient Indian seek in Java , Ancient Indian looking for rare Beads , this beads 75% in Indonesia, 25% in Himalaya Mountain Nepal .



what is Rudraksha beads? Rudraksha beads are a gift to mankind from Lord Shiva for a Happier, Healthier and Wealthier Life

Rudrakshas are considered to be sacred and have many spiritual and medicinal values both as preventive and curative. Rudraksha is the king of Herbal medicine working effectively and positively on mental faculty and also correcting the physical conditions
Rudraksha beads are the only Divine beads of power worn by the Hermits of India
for thousands of years enabling them to maintain health
The brick-red coloured dried berry of the Rudraksha tree (Elaeocarpus Ganitrus Roxb) has played a dominant role on the Indian arena for a long time now.
Rudra (terrible) aksha (eye), the name connotes the effect of the seed on evil and its concomitants. According to Hindu mythology, Lord Shiva used a fire weapon
called Aaghor to kill Tripura Sur, the troublesome demon. The weapon killed the demon, but temporarily blinded Shiva too, who had to shut his eyes to escape its dazzling brilliance. When Shiva opened his eyes, they were watery. Places on earth where the teardrops
fell sprouted Rudraksha trees.

www.rudrakshaindonesia.com

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