The Future of China?, Where India left in dust? Options

[richasiankid]

Some rhapsodise just how great India will thrive on multi-religious democracy (unlike Israel or mid east). Others fancy India becoming like HK or S'pore securing itself via English facility against evil Sinic hegemony.

But in the end it's a lesson where everything's sweet & swell India where it doesn't measure up, where it still can't even secure the basics and where human capital matters:

http://www.zshare.net/download/97642747c4df52c8/ (light end of tunnel; patience patience!)

PISA 2009 report for (against?) India?

Cities of India are still at the very very bottom, while cities like Shanghai are wowwing off the charts.

Yet another data point we're different.....

[richasiankid]

Short reply to comments posted:

NiceLemon writes:

Interesting read. Which countries or regions are classified as North East Asia?

For purposes of this thread, it's Japan, Korea, and China which btw by my books also includes Taiwan and HK.

Anybody killer writes:

How can you "accurately" account for culture and environment? Unless you raise hundreds of people in labs over multiple generations you can't.

When was the last time anyone under 35 has taken an IQ test? More accurate tests are being developed but until then the need to increase the difficulty of the test every generation to account for almost a full standard deviation of change (The Flynn Effect) alone is enough prove this a poor measurement of "general" intelligence.

On the subject just like athletics there are different types of intelligence. Just because someone will make an excellent pitcher in baseball, does not mean he will be an excellent NFL lineman. Same thing for intelligence. Most newer tests are starting to develop measurements for different types of intelligence.

India may be held back by multiculturalism (though they are the same race), but not because they are inferior.

Just because some variables can't be accurately accounted for never quite stopped people from blanket claiming or even crusading in the name of equality no? Why not deconstruct equality and rights instead?

Har writes:

It is an inferiority complex created by whites--Asians are told they are lacking physically in comparison to Europeans by popular global media and they work hard to compensate. If you observe closely most white people are simply trying to enjoy their lives--they don't really 'believe' they are threatened by Asians, they just think its a situation of white people who are wealthy taking advantage of them by initiating global trade practices/immigration etc.

Asians think they are in a competition with them--from outside the whites seemed more bemused at the whole affair.


The reason Indians don't work hard' and get organized copying the western way like many Asian countries have is very simple--their culture has not really been disproven--modern science is completely compatible with it--all 'new age philosophies' are just reworded Indian philosophies on various topics. The current age of the universe corresponds almost exactly to the date given by Indian sages. Even the language, mathematics, of modern science is written using Indian symbols. While the English tried very hard trying to convince Indians that they are inferior, everything in the modern world justifies their way of life not the reverse. After all, whites have had to become increasingly atheistic to incorporate science--the Chinese have given up on the Tao--what sacrifices have the Indians had to make?

Indians are culturally isolationists, they don't actually want to be part of a global culture--Indian economic organization and economic prosperity measured in the western way will improve only when their culture is either reinterpreted to explain why these things are important spiritually or if they are threatened militarily by an actual invasion.

I have never seen an Indian work very hard for material/competition principle like the Chinese/Koreans/Japanese--but they will set themselves on fire to prove ethics don't arise out of fear, bow and build grand palaces for rats while they live and sleep on dirt floors to crush their ego, cover themselves in the ashes of loved ones to show non attachment, kill their own children if they marry whites, etc etc etc

Indians work hard to live more relaxed lives, not because they wish to actually compete with whites or Asians or Blacks or etc. Do you see them really trying in sports or Olympics, they are just going through the motions of what they think is proper for the event, they don't 'feel' the competition as an expression of themselves. Have you come across an arrogant Indian and wondered wtf, what do you possibly have to be proud of, your country is in ruins, your people are hungry, your not 'white' -! The reason is that they genuinely believe they are spiritually superior, their culture tells them so, and up to date nothing has proven that it is wrong.


I think at the end of the day Asians are much more like Europeans--their civilizations are similar, their religions are similar, their world views are similar--if the economic situation reversed in the world I think Whites would work just as hard as Asians do. Indians have a different value system, Whites and Asians and blacks, they value other peoples material contributions--I don't think Indians see other people's contributions as valuable unless they are practicing some form of dharma.

Well, what about gentile whites and Jews in this loving Christmas season? Substitute Jews for white and white for Asian in your post above and you get real gist of dynamics. ?