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The Future of China?, Where India left in dust?
richasiankid
post Dec 20 2011, 09:47 PM
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Some rhapsodise just how great India will thrive on multi-religious democracy (unlike Israel or mid east). Others fancy India becoming like HK or S'pore securing itself via English facility against evil Sinic hegemony.

But in the end it's a lesson where everything's sweet & swell India where it doesn't measure up, where it still can't even secure the basics and where human capital matters:

http://www.zshare.net/download/97642747c4df52c8/ (light end of tunnel; patience patience!)

PISA 2009 report for (against?) India?

Cities of India are still at the very very bottom, while cities like Shanghai are wowwing off the charts.

Yet another data point we're different.....


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post Jan 2 2012, 02:44 AM
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the socioeconomic gap, i think, has a lot to do with uneven infrastructure and lacking a proper institution to develop those infrastructure . then you adding india backward promotion of social hierarchy, political disunity, and religious dynamism, you widen that gap further. i expect india, in long term, to be a competitive rival, just from the resource competition standpoint alone.

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post Jan 4 2012, 05:15 PM
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QUOTE (InitialDJay @ Jan 2 2012, 02:44 AM) *
the socioeconomic gap, i think, has a lot to do with uneven infrastructure and lacking a proper institution to develop those infrastructure . then you adding india backward promotion of social hierarchy, political disunity, and religious dynamism, you widen that gap further. i expect india, in long term, to be a competitive rival, just from the resource competition standpoint alone.


One of the most important infrastructures of all is people. The rest follows. icon_smile.gif

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post Jan 4 2012, 05:53 PM
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QUOTE (richasiankid @ Jan 4 2012, 04:15 PM) *
One of the most important infrastructures of all is people. The rest follows. icon_smile.gif


You say this but out of the most powerful countries, why do some with "lower IQ" and "Math test scores" outshine those with better scores?

Russia, Brazil, India come to mind. These countries are expected to outclass many of the more developed nations by 2050(they've already surpassed many IMO) and be the next superpowers along with China. These test scores to me represent a development of human capital rather than innate human capital. IQ can be boosted up 30 points by studying! Needless to say so can PISA scores.

The USA is ranked what? Between 20-30th on average IQ, and is the super power of the world. It probably will be until we're dead. China is the only nation of the projected future superpowers that has an IQ above 100 actually.

I get it though, you're trying to promote a sort of a right-wing, collectivist, isolationist nationalism for China (which I don't have a problem with). This whole "not all human, not all equal" deal you're so insistent on feeds into this. But, like I've said before insulting people on a "scientifically racial" level is very bad PR and also in most cases blatant misinformation. It will bring about more bad than good if China were to push this agenda.

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QUOTE (AnybodyKiller @ Jan 4 2012, 05:53 PM) *
You say this but out of the most powerful countries, why do some with "lower IQ" and "Math test scores" outshine those with better scores?

Russia, Brazil, India come to mind. These countries are expected to outclass many of the more developed nations by 2050(they've already surpassed many IMO) and be the next superpowers along with China. These test scores to me represent a development of human capital rather than innate human capital. IQ can be boosted up 30 points by studying! Needless to say so can PISA scores.

The USA is ranked what? Between 20-30 on average IQ, and is the super power of the world. It probably will be until we're dead. China is the only nation of the projected future superpowers that has an IQ above 100 actually.

I get it though, you're trying to promote a sort of a right-wing, collectivist, isolationist nationalism for China (which I don't have a problem with). This whole "not all human, not all equal" deal you're so insistent on feeds into this. But, like I've said before insulting people on a "scientifically racial" level is very bad PR and also in most cases blatant misinformation. It will bring about more good than bad if China were to push this agenda.


I rest my case, folks.

BTW: what expose. And not even for China. icon_smile.gif
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