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The Future of China?, Where India left in dust?
richasiankid
post Dec 20 2011, 09:47 PM
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Some rhapsodise just how great India will thrive on multi-religious democracy (unlike Israel or mid east). Others fancy India becoming like HK or S'pore securing itself via English facility against evil Sinic hegemony.

But in the end it's a lesson where everything's sweet & swell India where it doesn't measure up, where it still can't even secure the basics and where human capital matters:

http://www.zshare.net/download/97642747c4df52c8/ (light end of tunnel; patience patience!)

PISA 2009 report for (against?) India?

Cities of India are still at the very very bottom, while cities like Shanghai are wowwing off the charts.

Yet another data point we're different.....


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post Jan 5 2012, 12:37 PM
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QUOTE (haragain @ Dec 31 2011, 04:23 AM) *
I think maybe I have failed to get across my point--it is not that Indians don't compete--they do, just against their own egos. Imagine India as many different castes competing against each other in dharma, competing in varied forms to rid oneself of the ego, the outcome of such a thing produces what from the outside would appear to be material wealth. This is classic India, this is what produced the Vedas, Upanishads yogas, Buddhas, tantra, mathematics, surgery, complex water irrigation and farming etc etc. The reason this does not work today is because the Indian governing systems and economic modeling is based on western designs not on dharma--if it was based on dharma then the outward effect would be wealth in the way Whites and Asians understand the concept.

Let me put it this way--Europeans and Asians have no Real religion--their goals are defined by this world, so their religions reflect this world. And what is in this world but material competition? They are defined by this competition. Indians are defined by a different type of competition, not wealth/art, as this is simply one of the byproducts on the path of Moksa/liberation from the cycles of rebirth. Wealth/art is the end product in Western and Asian cultures that is why they are similar.

I think Indians would have less problems dealing with countries like China if they understood this underlying similarity--the fact that they are told repeatedly that the East adopted Prince Siddhartha's Dharma clouds what should be self evident.


On the contrary, Europeans were very religious for most of their history. Their secular culture is more of a recent phenomenon. Europeans were still religious throughout the 1800s. That of course doesn't explain why whites were still able to develop their societies back then.

However, you might be right though so I don't know.
I will have to meet more average Indians to get a clearer image. Most of the Indians that I have met are the "best and brightest" of their country. In other words, the only way to understand average Indians is to live in South Asia.

I still stand with the claim that average Mexicans are very laid-back. Texas is filled with average Mexicans so I see them all the time. Mexicans are about as laid-back as Taiwan Aborigines. They aren't as dumb and lazy as people think. Mexicans just don't care enough to have ambitious goals.

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