Martial Arts (Eastern Figthing Arts), regional martial arts talk Options

[WhoAmI]

Kung fu, Karate, Tae Kwon Do, Viet Vo Dao etc... The Martial Arts of East Asia are different compared with the kickboxing martial arts in southeast asia. In China, Japan, Korea, and Vietnam the idea of martial arts is often linked with philophical thought such as Confucianism, Buddhism, and especially Taoism. Which influence the "duty" of a martial arts warrior. In addition to that, eastern martial arts masters were often doctors, physicians, military figures or religious people who studied body mechanics, physics, and energy change. In affect the martial arts in China, Japan, Korea, and Vietnam show techniques that can be effective regardless of sex or age.

for example: not to diss kickboxing or anything (because i think its very powerful) but its only good when you're young and strong. When's the last time you saw an old kickboxing master still fighting? in eastern martial arts a master can be 70 some years old and still kick @$$.

Anyways, share your comments and thoughts on any of the eastern martial arts here.

[YManchun]

Taekwondo is now more of a martial sport then a martial arts. There are some real combat versions of TKD but the majority of them outside of the korean peninsula are sports. It evolved into a sport because the s.koreans wanted it to be accepted as an olympic sport (so there were a lot of safety rules). They are just point sparring.

There are two organizations that I know of that teaches TKD, they are very different from each other:

WTF- Most schools in the WTF organization are sports or point-sparring schools. There are a few combat schools.

ITF- Teaches mostly martial arts and self-defense.

This post has been edited by YManchun: Jan 9 2004, 02:11 PM

[WhoAmI]

I see. thanks for sharing some info about taekwondo. taekwondo sure did gain popularity around the world. but yeah since its become more of a sport i wonder how some ppl think of it now. like you said there are a few ones that teach real combat ones right?

Hapkido is another korean martial arts right? i heard its similar to judo but with more kicks.

[Jun]

i lik the concepts of wing chun kung fu it teaches u 2 b lik water n has fluid movements unlik karate (no offence)

also in wing chun every blok is designed 2 quikly transform into an attack n every attack is also designed to transform into a blok. which also makes da wing chun pratitonar a very unpredictible opponent.

(by in chance whoami do u do vo vi nam?)

[Randerkill]

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[WhoAmI]

i lik the concepts of wing chun kung fu it teaches u 2 b lik water  n has fluid movements unlik karate (no offence)

also in wing chun every blok is designed 2 quikly transform into an attack n every attack is also designed to transform into a blok. which also makes da wing chun pratitonar a very unpredictible opponent.

(by in chance whoami do u do vo vi nam?)

Yes, the concepts of Wing Chun are interesting. Though im not a practitioner of wing chun i have been taught some of it and its concepts. the trapping drills are fun and useful. (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_smile.gif) Plus i also like the idea of blocks becoming attacks and attacks becoming blocks.

and to answer your question. i do not practice Vo vi nam. they dont have a Vovinam school where i live. but im trying to find someone who knows it to teach me some (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_smile.gif) . Do you practice Vo vi nam? or do you know anything about it? i heard a little about it and its interesting. theyre known for their flying scissor kick techniques which i think originated from defeating mongol invasions.

[Jun]

i lik the concepts of wing chun kung fu it teaches u 2 b lik water  n has fluid movements unlik karate (no offence)

also in wing chun every blok is designed 2 quikly transform into an attack n every attack is also designed to transform into a blok. which also makes da wing chun pratitonar a very unpredictible opponent.

(by in chance whoami do u do vo vi nam?)

Yes, the concepts of Wing Chun are interesting. Though im not a practitioner of wing chun i have been taught some of it and its concepts. the trapping drills are fun and useful. (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_smile.gif) Plus i also like the idea of blocks becoming attacks and attacks becoming blocks.

and to answer your question. i do not practice Vo vi nam. they dont have a Vovinam school where i live. but im trying to find someone who knows it to teach me some (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_smile.gif) . Do you practice Vo vi nam? or do you know anything about it? i heard a little about it and its interesting. theyre known for their flying scissor kick techniques which i think originated from defeating mongol invasions.

lol my friend does vovinam ny way if u live in australia melbourne i can give the adress to were he trains.

n yeh those scissor kiks r pretty darn effective! my amico told me all about them n ur right about how they used to defeat da mongol invasion.

dam those viets r smart (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

well ive heard many things from my friend about vo vi nam

he told me that it was made durin french rule n they had 2 study it in secret cause martial arts was prohibited.
once the martil art was complete by da master Win Loc ( i fink dats his name)

he sent his students arond the world 2 teach da pholosipies n concepts of VVN
VVN has a very strong hold on europe but other where its not dat well known other places lik aus 4 example.

i also no dat da oath of VVN is 2 use wat u learn 4 only self deffence n 4 justice.

n have u heard it takes lik 50 years jus 2 get the las belt! lol n dats if u make no mistake!

would like 2 no da gradin system lol or nythin else

sorry if i bored u lol (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[WhoAmI]

Haha no u didnt bore me at all (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_smile.gif) . and thanks for the offer but unfortuneatly i dont live in australia (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_confused.gif) . And thanks for sharin some info about vo vi nam too. those scissor kicks are amazing. one time i saw a video of like three or four guys demonstrating them. wow!

n have u heard it takes lik 50 years jus 2 get the las belt! lol n dats if u make no mistake!

would like 2 no da gradin system lol or nythin else

WOW!! (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/eek.gif) Really!? haha thats interesting. yea tell me more about it like the grading system and stuff. i might have more questions later if its okay.

This post has been edited by WhoAmI: Jan 21 2004, 07:38 PM

[Jun]

Haha no u didnt bore me at all (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_smile.gif) . and thanks for the offer but unfortuneatly i dont live in australia (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_confused.gif) . And thanks for sharin some info about vo vi nam too. those scissor kicks are amazing. one time i saw a video of like three or four guys demonstrating them. wow!

n have u heard it takes lik 50 years jus 2 get the las belt! lol n dats if u make no mistake!

would like 2 no da gradin system lol or nythin else

WOW!! (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/eek.gif) Really!? haha thats interesting. yea tell me more about it like the grading system and stuff. i might have more questions later if its okay.

well i don't rember clearly on the belt system but here goes.

the first belt is light blue the light blue represents hope and knoledge since the practioner is entering the training of VVN

the second belt is dark blue (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/confused.gif) i dont think this 1 really reprsent nythin but i no the person can start weopens trainin

the third i think is blak which represents water

the fourth is red which represents fire or earth

the second last is yellow but i can't remeber wat it represents either earth or fire

n the last is white whicth represnts enlightenment and all knowledge of da VVN system ONLY 1 person can acheieve this belt which is the grand master.

in VVN there is only 1 person dat is allowed 2 that is allowed 2 have the white belt whict of course is the grandmaster.

another fact is dat only ppl chosen by the grandmaster can change the techniques in VVN

the bow in VVN is like a normal bow but the students put their right hand over their heart when bowing.

k dats it 4 2day (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) i look forward 2 ur questions if u have ny?

[WhoAmI]

I see. Wow Thanks alot (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) . Do u know what weapons they practice with?

[Jun]

I see. Wow Thanks alot (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) . Do u know what weapons they practice with?

i no they train wif nanchaks,stik and a sword..

so do u do a martial art at all who am i?

[akara]

for example: not to diss kickboxing or anything (because i think its very powerful) but its only good when you're young and strong. When's the last time you saw an old kickboxing master still fighting?

Free Boxing was probably developed out of necessity. It was used by Angkorian warriors in defense of the Khmer kingdom. The armies consisted mostly or entirely of young men, so these types of martial arts would suit them quite well.

[WhoAmI]

akara,
Thanks for sharing some info. That explains how it came about yes? Theres another thread about Kick boxing arts. feel free to post up more info about boxing and the Angkorian warriors there.

so do u do a martial art at all who am i?

Yes. i practice Tien Shan Pai kung fu, a northern style. sifu sometimes teaches us other stuff too like wing chun (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_smile.gif) . i plan on learning Tai Chi someday and also a Vietnamese martial arts style. my brothers take tae kwon do. not the sport one though. their teacher kinda mixes stuff from karate into it too so its not like traditional or sport.

[Jun]

akara,
Thanks for sharing some info. That explains how it came about yes? Theres another thread about Kick boxing arts. feel free to post up more info about boxing and the Angkorian warriors there.

so do u do a martial art at all who am i?

Yes. i practice Tien Shan Pai kung fu, a northern style. sifu sometimes teaches us other stuff too like wing chun (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_smile.gif) . i plan on learning Tai Chi someday and also a Vietnamese martial arts style. my brothers take tae kwon do. not the sport one though. their teacher kinda mixes stuff from karate into it too so its not like traditional or sport.

man i envy u i wanna start wing chun but my perants wont let me so it kinda suks cause ive wanted 2 do martial arts since i was 5.

[WhoAmI]

^ Man that sux. (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_confused.gif) How come your parents wont let u? hopefully youll get to eventually.

[Jun]

^ Man that sux. (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_confused.gif) How come your parents wont let u? hopefully youll get to eventually.

it's ment to b "xpensive" but i've checked the pricess n stuff n it's alright i fink they use that as an excuse. (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_sad.gif)

[Saint Legends]

Well, i practice White Lotus Gung Fu, created by my sifu, grandmaster Douglas Lim Wong. its really a combination of both Southern and Northern styles of Gung Fu. i think its great. Not only does it teach me how to better defend myself if the need arises, but i also get a good workout as well. We get to do fingertip, knuckle, wrist, and one-arm push ups, tons and tons of crunches, plenty of horse stance training, and body conditioning! now don't that just sound fun? (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/badteeth.gif) - but really, its absolutely worth it.

This post has been edited by Saint Legends: Jan 27 2004, 04:56 PM

[WhoAmI]

Jun,
Oh i see. well, hopefully you'll get to practice wing chun eventually. maybe if you keep bugging them?

Haha, Saint Legends. yeah martial arts can help you stay fit. i havent been practicing much lately because of school (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_confused.gif) . oi

[Jun]

Jun,
Oh i see. well, hopefully you'll get to practice wing chun eventually. maybe if you keep bugging them?

Haha, Saint Legends. yeah martial arts can help you stay fit. i havent been practicing much lately because of school (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_confused.gif) . oi

(IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) tnx who am i

hmmm lotus kung fu that sounds interesting please tell us more saint legends

[Saint Legends]

ok, well, i can't really describe too much of the system, as i've only been taking this for two years now, and i'm only at level two. well, speaking of levels, there are 10 levels. you usually pass level one after one year. after that, it takes way longer to pass level 2, like a couple of years. once you reach certain levels you get trained in more weapons, and forms, stances, and excercises become harder. once you reached level 8 i believe, you've attained master, or sifu, status. But the Grandmaster of my style gets to be level 11 since he's the one who created our style. he used Wing Chun before. all i can really say about the style is that its its a combination of southern and northern Gung Fu. As i know of right now, we have 5 sifus, sifu Tom (Chinese i think), sifu Jennings (really funny black guy), sifu Carrie Wong( the grandmaster's wife, Japanese), sifu Travis( grandmaster's 18 year old son.....damn, 18 yrs old and already a master!), and grandmaster Douglas Lim Wong.