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[AChanh]

Hey, dumbass, don't act you are so cool, I remember when you fist came here insult Thai as a Third world. Now, after many months, you haven't posted anything but insult Thailand as third world again. DOn't tell me you idiot Cambonadian didn't intend to insult us.

First world mean rich countries. Third world mean poor countries.

Do you think Thailand is so poor? Go to Bangkok idiot, and tear your eyes, there are many towers, skyscrapers more than your First world Calgay. That's why I said to match your silly logic.. Bangkok must be first world. and your Calgary must be third world.

It's not an insult it's a fact. your taking it as an insult becuase your ego is in the way. but no worries you are taught to be closed minded like this from what i hear

Oh so having skycrapers mean you are now first world? and by comparison anything with less skyscrapers means you are third world? you just proved my point. you really don't know what defines first and second world.

This post has been edited by AChanh: Feb 12 2012, 09:32 AM

[LoveIsAllAround]

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Great explanation.

This post has been edited by LoveIsAllAround: Feb 12 2012, 09:39 AM

[LoveIsAllAround]

It's not an insult it's a fact. your taking it as an insult becuase your ego is in the way. but no worries you are taught to be closed minded like this from what i hear

Oh so having skycrapers mean you are now first world? you just prove my point. you really dont know what defines first and second world.

NO, It's insulted becos you intend to use it when you can't debate anymore.

You said Thailand is third word becos the whole Thailand is poor except Bangkok. But Bangkok alone is able to be First world you dumbass. That's why I compare Bangkok's skyscrapers to those in your Calgary. LOL

[khmerpride]

You may not old enough to hear it.

During cold war, America and its allies called themselves as "1st world" to compare with "2nd world" or communist countries like Russia, China etc.

And the rest were calleld "3rd world"

"3rd world" countries in those days were pretty much neutral, and American wanted them to take side with "1st world" to contain "2nd word" communist countries.

That's why it's called "cold war"

They tried to promote the concept of "Democracy brings prosperity and wealthiness" and "Communist brings trouble and poverty" and tried to convince 3rd world countries to walk after them rather than going with the 2nd world countries.

The world "3rd world" was used to call "developing" countries and it is still used to many countries in SEA today even when the quality of life in many SEA cities already surpassed many cities in Europe and America.

While the term "2nd world" is not used any more because the largest debt owner of Americans today is China.




"Newly Industrialized Country (NIC)" was a "post-cold war" term.

It has nothing to do with the term "2nd world countries" during cold war.

It's used by Americans to call countries (from 2nd and 3rd world) whose quality of living already surpassed them.

Okay okay but how would you categorize Thailand ?
Would you say that you can compare Thailand with Germany , Japan or Swiss ???
Is Thailand playing in the same are with these Countries I stated ?

To wich field would you assign Thailand ?

As Industrialized Country , "take off Country" or Developing Country ?

This post has been edited by khmerpride: Feb 12 2012, 11:31 AM

[RafaelM]

Okay okay but how would you categorize Thailand ?
Would you say that you can compare Thailand with Germany , Japan or Swiss ???
Is Thailand playing in the same are with these Countries I stated ?

To wich field would you assign Thailand ?

As Industrialized Country , "take off Country" or Developing Country ?

Developed countries have highly developed infrastructure and solid institutions that allow a very good standard of living to their citizens. If a Developed country has a huge economic crisis it won't automatically go down to the status of developing country but if the crisis continues that country's institutions and infrastructure will start to decay until the country loses it's status as developed. Having a capital city with huge skycrappers doesn't make your country a developed country, the fact that even the smallest towns in the country have access to education and healthcare does.

You are right, the classifications for countries would be: Developed Countries, Developing Countries (Newly Industrialized country, Emerging Markets and Least Developed Countries are all Developing Countries), and Failed Nations.

[RafaelM]

Human Development Index by country according to the UN, the darker the higher HDI.



Countries by their GDP (PPP) per capita. Above the world average (Blue) and below the world average (Orange)



Countries by their GDP (Nominal) per capita. Again, the darker the better.

[Leeporter]

Okay okay but how would you categorize Thailand ?
Would you say that you can compare Thailand with Germany , Japan or Swiss ???
Is Thailand playing in the same are with these Countries I stated ?

Well, I am sure that in many parts of Thailand, the quality of living of middle class people equals to those in Germany, Japan or Swiss, not to mention America where people start diving dumpsters for foods.

But in overall, many other smaller cities of Thailand still can't catch up.

To wich field would you assign Thailand ?

As Industrialized Country , "take off Country" or Developing Country ?

It's gone beyond the word "Industrialized", but it's definitely not the way we should go.

[khmerking]

Okay okay but how would you categorize Thailand ?
Would you say that you can compare Thailand with Germany , Japan or Swiss ???
Is Thailand playing in the same are with these Countries I stated ?

To wich field would you assign Thailand ?

As Industrialized Country , "take off Country" or Developing Country ?

Lol. this idiot is trying to completely change the subject or trying to change the definition of a 1st world & 3rd world country. lol

[AChanh]

Lol. this idiot is trying to completely change the subject or trying to change the definition of a 1st world & 3rd world country. lol

no, those were pretty much straight forward questions.
what's the matter? don't want to answer it? afraid of the truth?

[khmerking]

no, those were pretty much straight forward questions.
what's the matter? don't want to answer it? afraid of the truth?

I have no idea what he was to debate about. does he wants to debate about industrial country or about 1st, 2nd, and third world?

[RafaelM]

I agree with the Cambodians here. Thailand is industrialized but not developed, those are two completely different things, if you see the maps I showed you can clearly see that Thailand is not even close to be developed yet.

And First World country is an outdated term for the countries of the capitalist bloc during the Cold War, many people use the Third World term to call Developing countries but that's incorrect, Third World means a country is part of the Non-aligned Movement. And Thailand is part of that movement.

This post has been edited by RafaelM: Feb 13 2012, 07:27 AM

[Leeporter]

I agree with the Cambodians here. Thailand is industrialized but not developed, those are two completely different things, if you see the maps I showed you can clearly see that Thailand is not even close to be developed yet.

I couldn't disagree with you because you have your own definition of "developed" countries

What I know is that my life here in Thailand is much better than of those in Greece and American I saw on TV today, and probably much better than yours, and I am satisfied with my condition here.

Why?

- I live in a big house, fully equiped with all appliances you can buy, I have my own cars,
- I have access to relatively cheap world class medical service, and if I don't want to go to private hospital, most of medical service in public hospital cost me only 1$ and their service is the best in SEA.
- I have access to all convenients you have in western countries, including world class shopping mall, mass transit, clean water, reliable electricity, air-condition, satellite TV, Cable TV, hi-speed internet, etc.
- My kid go to first class school, not a rubbish public school like in the US,
- I can vote for my representative, I have all kind of freedom here, not less than any country in the west.
- I have plenty of delicious but cheap Thai foods to eat everyday, I don't have to dive the dumpster for junk foods like in America.

so on ans so on....

I think it's almost heaven already for a middle class. What else do I miss?

Oh, you may say I am ok but many poor people in thailand do not live up to my condition.

Well, yes, so do Americans.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TelyWI6oko
Third world America.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKEbeh1DpEQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NDDEMJYHxw




So, I don't mind if you call America as "developed" and call Thailand as "developing" country.

As far as my living condition at the moment is maintained and Thailand continues "developing" and not "fully developed and going down", I am ok with it.

BTW, do you consider Greece a "developed" country?


This post has been edited by Leeporter: Feb 13 2012, 07:48 PM

[Leeporter]

And you know what funny me the most?

During the cold war, America put the picture of Russian queing on street for breads on TV everyday.

It's 2012 now and we have the Russian news like Russian Today showing the condition of poor American on TV everyday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGRkC4YM62k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QHGBVftsTA

America doesn't call Russia and China as 2nd world country anymore, but it calls them as "emerging countries"

ha ha ha ..

[LoveIsAllAround]

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[RafaelM]

If you don't mind, than way do you insist so much?
Is simply the difference between facts and perception. The fact is that those poor in United States on average live better than the poors in your country and are less numerous percentage-wise: That's the true difference between a developed country and developing country.

[AChanh]

after seeing the map from the UN's human development index, a highly respected research, they still believe they are a first world country?
*sigh thailand's ego goes a long way

well then
ok lets just agree that the whole world says thailand is a third country, wheareas only thailand believes they are a first world country

agreed?

[Leeporter]

after seeing the map from the UN's human development index, a highly respected research, they still believe they are a first world country?
*sigh thailand's ego goes a long way

well then
ok lets just agree that the whole world says thailand is a third country, wheareas only thailand believes they are a first world country

agreed?

Could you please go read my post above and let me know what else a middle class in Thailand like me need in order to be called "developed" country?

What do you have in your boss's country that I don't have?

[AChanh]

think about it this way. in developed countries, what you have, lower classes can have. My best friend lives below the poverty line and he has what you have. it's a simple as that.

Education: my phd is well respected all over the world(american phd can do the same), believe it or not I met a thai greenhouse worker/labourer in toronto with a phd from thailand. I can go to Thailand or anywhere in the world and get a job in my field no problem( same with phds from first world countries like usa, australia, japan, england ect). Ppl from all over the world come to developed countries for the best education possible, people only go to thailand to learn muay thai or thai language (or if they are from 3rd world country). Please don't compare your "first class" to their public schools, try comparing it to their "first class", and private schools.
lastly developed countries can compete in almost every industry named, you name it. American industries can compete on almost every industry, meaning well paid jobs and Internationally respected education. Developed countries compete, thailand does not compete on an international scale


all in all America's poor is richer than your poor, their lower class is richer than your lower class, their middle class is richer than middle class, and so on and so on
you are comparing is your middle class to america's poor. all your are saying is thailand's middle class is comparable to america's poor. it's not winning your case
So stop bashing on America, thinking you are better than them just to obtain the rank of 1st world

you guys are so egotistical. You are 3rd world country like it or not


oo0o one thing. If you have clean water, that's good for you, but for foreigners we are encouraged not to drink tap water but bottled water. our water, foreigners can actually drink our tap water.

This post has been edited by AChanh: Feb 13 2012, 09:54 PM

[Leeporter]

think about it this way. in developed countries, what you have, lower classes can have.

Err.. these people have what you have?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TelyWI6oko

all in all America's poor is richer than your poor, their lower class is richer than your lower class, their middle class is richer than middle class, and so on and so on

these people are richer than the poor in Thailand?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TelyWI6oko

In Thailand we have one full meal at only 0.75 cent.
While you need to have at least 3 dollar to eat a junk hamburger.

Don't BS lah. I've lived in America and in Thailand, I don't see any different.

[Leeporter]

Tell me what you have any I don't have.

And tell me what the poor in America have and the poor in Thailand don't have.

Oh, and just in case you are not aware, this can explain how Americans got what they have.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=playe...p;v=Li0no7O9zmE




This post has been edited by Leeporter: Feb 13 2012, 09:45 PM