Vietnamese are considered Northeast Asians?, Source: Magzine Publishers of America Options

[freeter]

Far East is a term created by the Whites. You could always opt to never use it. But if you do use it, you have to abide by their definition, which is Far East encompasses East Asia, Southeast Asia, and the Russian Far East. By such definition, Thailand and Burma well fit inside the Far East region.

As far as Vietnam goes, next time when someone asks you what region of Asia you are from, tell him that the region's name is Vietnam.

This post has been edited by freeter: Feb 12 2012, 03:35 AM

[XigonCongchua]

Btw lol, who are Kinh people?...there were lots of assimilation going on in Vietnam, maybe not as much with the Khmer because they hated us to their guts and not as much with the Hoa because they tend to isolate themselves socially...but Cham people were well integrated into Vietnamese society and became "Kinh"...okay even before Đại Việt conquered Champa there was a whole Cham community in Hanoi and you can bet intermarriages did occur pretty early...Most of you are ignoring a large part of Vietnamese people here...Ethnic Kinh/Vietnamese aren't just those with Đông Kinh ancestry, you forgot to take into account ethnic integration.

But really I hate people of both sides You got both the EA and the SEA folks trying to deny Vietnamese of what they are. Chinese would call us SEA monkeys while Khmer and Lao would call us yellow down-syndrome ch!nks It's sad, really. It's similar to the situation of Thai people. The Lao peeps call Thai ugly "Siamese" (though ironically, Lao themselves are heavily mixed with Khmer and Mon or Siam people too...yea so before anybody pointing finger at or labeling anyone, they should look at themselves in the mirror, or maybe check their DNA lol), while the Khmers call Thai primitive hill tribes from China. People do got problems, they would say whatever fits to "monopolize" their heritage or their look, and deny other groups of what they truthfully are.

[oolong]

Who cares.I got a weird vibe of desperation from this thread.

[XigonCongchua]

I knew you would show up in this thread

[oolong]

^U talking to me?

[XigonCongchua]

I knew you would show up in this thread and say something along that line

[oolong]

^Oh,I feel flattered?

[AsiaticGlory]

i'm happy when someone recognised me as a Vietnamese, i have been mistaken as Japanese, Mongolian, Chinese,... but that didn't anger me at all..., i just don't feel very happy.

Thai and Burma isn't in the far east.

base on the "stories about the origin of Viet" Vietnamese could be considered as East Asian, but after a long times of movement and migration, plus that we are now a member of ASEAN, its better for us to be SE.Asian than East Asian, though base on culture and people and origin, we are east asian...

I heard that Austronesian is a mix between Mongoloid and Negroid people, is it correct?

good question, maybe
I just know Austronesians are the ancestors of Asians. Hence that is why they are known as "proto-Mongoloid." Some of those Austronesians ended up in Siberia and became the lighter skinned Mongoloids with squinty/slanty eyes.

Far East is a term created by the Whites. You could always opt to never use it. But if you do use it, you have to abide by their definition, which is Far East encompasses East Asia, Southeast Asia, and the Russian Far East. By such definition, Thailand and Burma well fit inside the Far East region.

As far as Vietnam goes, next time when someone asks you what region of Asia you are from, tell him that the region's name is Vietnam.

I use "Far East" to refer to the part of Asia that is dominated by Mongoloids and part-Mongoloids. It is much easier than saying "East Asia, Southeast Asia, Central Asia, and Siberia."

Btw lol, who are Kinh people?...there were lots of assimilation going on in Vietnam, maybe not as much with the Khmer because they hated us to their guts and not as much with the Hoa because they tend to isolate themselves socially...but Cham people were well integrated into Vietnamese society and became "Kinh"...okay even before Đại Việt conquered Champa there was a whole Cham community in Hanoi and you can bet intermarriages did occur pretty early...Most of you are ignoring a large part of Vietnamese people here...Ethnic Kinh/Vietnamese aren't just those with Đông Kinh ancestry, you forgot to take into account ethnic integration.

But really I hate people of both sides You got both the EA and the SEA folks trying to deny Vietnamese of what they are. Chinese would call us SEA monkeys while Khmer and Lao would call us yellow down-syndrome ch!nks It's sad, really. It's similar to the situation of Thai people. The Lao peeps call Thai ugly "Siamese" (though ironically, Lao themselves are heavily mixed with Khmer and Mon or Siam people too...yea so before anybody pointing finger at or labeling anyone, they should look at themselves in the mirror, or maybe check their DNA lol), while the Khmers call Thai primitive hill tribes from China. People do got problems, they would say whatever fits to "monopolize" their heritage or their look, and deny other groups of what they truthfully are.

It's what happens when you are mixed. You get rejected by both sides. East Asians say Vietnamese are "too Southeast Asian" while Southeast Asians say Vietnamese are "too East Asian."

This post has been edited by AsiaticGlory: Feb 12 2012, 06:46 AM

[vinashock]

vnmese have a pretty big diversity of looks if you go toward the south. Funny thing is that the chinese, korean, filipino people i've met here asked me if i was korean then japanese and then they give the third guess if i was a chinese lol and then they couldn't move on further out of those 3 countries. This just shows how ignorant those people living in the north and in the east and people nowadays are, they always consider themselves to be different and thinking the people in southeast countries have a diffrentially unpreferred look compared to them. Vietnamese is so unfortunate to be located in this dimension between east and south east, being overgeneralized.

Every race is mixed. I used to see many Korean look like Viet, i confuse until they open mouth. Not all Korean have single eyelid, flat face, long thick nose and vice versa.
For me:
Korean ~ 75% EA
Chinese ~ 60% EA
Vietnamese ~ 20% EA

[LonelyLeopard]

Korean and Japanese both have their ancestor in SEA, but well.


Base on the look:

Vietnamese: Vietnamese unique looks 70%, East Asia 10%, South east Asia 5%, North Asia 15% .

Chinese: North Asia 10%, East Asia 50%, S.East Asia 15%, West Asia 15%, 5% European, 5% negroids Immigrants.

Korean: North Asia 10%, East Asia 40%, South East Asia 20%, Korean looks 30%.

Japanese: japanese looks 40%, South East Asia 30%, East Asia 30%.

This post has been edited by LonelyLeopard: Feb 12 2012, 09:31 AM

[newties21]

I believe Vietnamese people straddle both EA and SEA but actually it tilts a bit more towards EA characteristics, both culturally and also racially.

Actually it is a bit confusing because SEA itself has its own subgroups.

Because the Indochinese groups like Thais, Myanmarese, Laotians, Cambodians, they are a bit separate compared to the maritime part of SEA such as Malaysians, Indonesians, Phillipinos.

A Laotian is not the same like an Indonesian.

Then if we go further easterly, the people become darker and their hair become more curly, and finally at the eastern points they are just like Papua New Guineans.

So even if Vietnamese straddle both EA and SEA, to be more precise they straddle southeast of EA and Indochinese of SEA.

Anyways,

I believe Vietnam should exit from ASEAN and enter the East Asian grouping (forgot what the name is, because it is rather new)

Because the anchor and the center of gravity of ASEAN is Indonesia, and Indonesia is a maritime SEA nation, deeply and solidly SEA, while the anchor and center of gravity of EA grouping is China, and comparatively speaking Vietnam is closer to China than to Indonesia. So it would be better if Vietnam switch. To be honest Vietnam in ASEAN is a bit mismatched.

Beside of this, let me tell you something else. This is a secret don't tell too many people.

Look at Turkey, Turkey is smart.

Turkey want to join EU, despite it being in the border area and it being a straddling country (just like Vietnam)

Because Turkey knows which group of nations will bring it brighter future and can have positive and beneficial effects to the nation.

That's why Turkey want to join EU and not some other groupings downwards south.

: )

Vietnam in ASEAN is mismatched, and not only that, but it is sacrificing its potential to settle for something else second best.
ASEAN wont bring it wings.
Getting into EA will bring it wings.

This post has been edited by newties21: Feb 12 2012, 10:42 AM

[hoang_1989]

Saying Vietnam is SEA geographically is also wrong, because some parts ain't at all. Just take a look at the "ugly" beaches of Northern Vietnam. They are nothing like the ones you will find in the Nha trang, Philippines or Malaysia. The weather of Red river delta has four distinctive seasons. Believe it or not, but Hanoi's climate is somewhat colder than let's say in Hongkong or Taipei. Since Hanoi is labeled as SEA most people would think the other way around. Something I just witnessed over a time. Prove yourself by looking at the temperatures of each region.

This post has been edited by hoang_1989: Feb 12 2012, 11:06 AM

[AsiaticGlory]

Korean and Japanese both have their ancestor in SEA, but well.


Base on the look:

Vietnamese: Vietnamese unique looks 70%, East Asia 10%, South east Asia 5%, North Asia 15% .

Chinese: North Asia 10%, East Asia 50%, S.East Asia 15%, West Asia 15%, 5% European, 5% negroids Immigrants.

Korean: North Asia 10%, East Asia 40%, South East Asia 20%, Korean looks 30%.

Japanese: japanese looks 40%, South East Asia 30%, East Asia 30%.

Where did you get these percentages?

[SkyBurial]

Korean and Japanese both have their ancestor in SEA, but well.


Base on the look:

Vietnamese: Vietnamese unique looks 70%, East Asia 10%, South east Asia 5%, North Asia 15% .

Chinese: North Asia 10%, East Asia 50%, S.East Asia 15%, West Asia 15%, 5% European, 5% negroids Immigrants.

Korean: North Asia 10%, East Asia 40%, South East Asia 20%, Korean looks 30%.

Japanese: japanese looks 40%, South East Asia 30%, East Asia 30%.

I have a feeling you're just making up numbers, but you're including more than just Han Chinese right lol?

[Boron]

I believe Vietnamese people straddle both EA and SEA but actually it tilts a bit more towards EA characteristics, both culturally and also racially.

Actually it is a bit confusing because SEA itself has its own subgroups.

Because the Indochinese groups like Thais, Myanmarese, Laotians, Cambodians, they are a bit separate compared to the maritime part of SEA such as Malaysians, Indonesians, Phillipinos.

A Laotian is not the same like an Indonesian.

Then if we go further easterly, the people become darker and their hair become more curly, and finally at the eastern points they are just like Papua New Guineans.

So even if Vietnamese straddle both EA and SEA, to be more precise they straddle southeast of EA and Indochinese of SEA.

Anyways,

I believe Vietnam should exit from ASEAN and enter the East Asian grouping (forgot what the name is, because it is rather new)

Because the anchor and the center of gravity of ASEAN is Indonesia, and Indonesia is a maritime SEA nation, deeply and solidly SEA, while the anchor and center of gravity of EA grouping is China, and comparatively speaking Vietnam is closer to China than to Indonesia. So it would be better if Vietnam switch. To be honest Vietnam in ASEAN is a bit mismatched.

Beside of this, let me tell you something else. This is a secret don't tell too many people.

Look at Turkey, Turkey is smart.

Turkey want to join EU, despite it being in the border area and it being a straddling country (just like Vietnam)

Because Turkey knows which group of nations will bring it brighter future and can have positive and beneficial effects to the nation.

That's why Turkey want to join EU and not some other groupings downwards south.

: )

Vietnam in ASEAN is mismatched, and not only that, but it is sacrificing its potential to settle for something else second best.
ASEAN wont bring it wings.
Getting into EA will bring it wings.

It's not realistic to treat it as "either or". Vietnam needs ASEAN geopolitically, just like Singapore does. It needs both EA and SEA economically. And, in reality Vietnam needs to develop culturally towards EA for its future.

[XigonCongchua]

Korean and Japanese both have their ancestor in SEA, but well.


Base on the look:

Vietnamese: Vietnamese unique looks 70%, East Asia 10%, South east Asia 5%, North Asia 15% .

Chinese: North Asia 10%, East Asia 50%, S.East Asia 15%, West Asia 15%, 5% European, 5% negroids Immigrants.

Korean: North Asia 10%, East Asia 40%, South East Asia 20%, Korean looks 30%.

Japanese: japanese looks 40%, South East Asia 30%, East Asia 30%.

LonelyKitty, I hope you'll get wiser as you pass the age of 15

[Boron]

Do you think he is that TheThirteenth kid?


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This post has been edited by Boron: Feb 12 2012, 04:38 PM

[dfasfjkalsdkljsd...]

Every race is mixed. I used to see many Korean look like Viet, i confuse until they open mouth. Not all Korean have single eyelid, flat face, long thick nose and vice versa.
For me:
Korean ~ 75% EA
Chinese ~ 60% EA
Vietnamese ~ 20% EA

you Vietnamese have the flattest face of them all

I notice some Vietnamese have a really wide face and eyes that are so closely set together that you look like a gorilla

not to mention you guys have those huge and protruding mouths

at least Koreans have a narrow nose whereas Vietnamese have ugly wide African noses

Vietnamese really do make me laugh

[UnknownUser]

you Vietnamese have the flattest face of them all

I notice some Vietnamese have a really wide face and eyes that are so closely set together that you look like a gorilla

not to mention you guys have those huge and protruding mouths

at least Koreans have a narrow nose whereas Vietnamese have ugly wide African noses

Vietnamese really do make me laugh

You are not Korean. so, don't bring Koreans into your bad trolling.

This post has been edited by UnknownUser: Feb 12 2012, 05:33 PM

[Jin4life]

Btw lol, who are Kinh people?...there were lots of assimilation going on in Vietnam, maybe not as much with the Khmer because they hated us to their guts and not as much with the Hoa because they tend to isolate themselves socially...but Cham people were well integrated into Vietnamese society and became "Kinh"...okay even before Đại Việt conquered Champa there was a whole Cham community in Hanoi and you can bet intermarriages did occur pretty early...Most of you are ignoring a large part of Vietnamese people here...Ethnic Kinh/Vietnamese aren't just those with Đông Kinh ancestry, you forgot to take into account ethnic integration.

But really I hate people of both sides You got both the EA and the SEA folks trying to deny Vietnamese of what they are. Chinese would call us SEA monkeys while Khmer and Lao would call us yellow down-syndrome ch!nks It's sad, really. It's similar to the situation of Thai people. The Lao peeps call Thai ugly "Siamese" (though ironically, Lao themselves are heavily mixed with Khmer and Mon or Siam people too...yea so before anybody pointing finger at or labeling anyone, they should look at themselves in the mirror, or maybe check their DNA lol), while the Khmers call Thai primitive hill tribes from China. People do got problems, they would say whatever fits to "monopolize" their heritage or their look, and deny the other groups of what they truthfully are.

I'm sorry. But I don't think you have any clear understanding about our prospective view about the Siamese here. Who said we called them ugly? Perhaps that's what you think about them. LOL!

This is how a Siamese looks like. They are a hybrid of the Khmer/Mon people and not Tai.