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If VN were to be part of China (again)
Ilikeasians
post Feb 12 2012, 07:52 PM
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I have a question for you Chinese people. Historically, the tension between the two countries have been unfair taxation, where Vietnam must pay tributaries in exchange for peace. Now, in the modern era, Vietnam lives rather peacefully with neighboring countries. The only threat is from the China. Hypothetically speaking, if the current VN government were to sign some sort of borderless pact with China similar to the Eurozone, with joint development of the South China Sea and other disputed territories, where would this development take China and Vietnam in the next few decades, assuming Taiwan and other Chinese populated countries have already joined up with mainland China? Do you Chinese welcome this or see this as a sort of bad thing?
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post Feb 15 2012, 12:47 AM
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QUOTE (Boron @ Feb 15 2012, 03:44 AM) *
^ then what about Britain, Canada, Australia and USA? They always stand together.

they trust the US political structure to do the right things, which include having their interest align with that of US and they are clearly deferring to the US for protection and support.

i'm not saying china-vietnam can't work together but it's going to take a lot of trust and deferring from vn govt side. neither side trust the others so it's hard to say how the collaboration will works. imo, it's better if vietnam works with similar size country. in any case, china govt needs to do a better job of keeping other neighbor interest in their plan.
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post Feb 15 2012, 03:10 AM
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QUOTE (InitialDJay @ Feb 15 2012, 12:47 AM) *
they trust the US political structure to do the right things, which include having their interest align with that of US and they are clearly deferring to the US for protection and support.

i'm not saying china-vietnam can't work together but it's going to take a lot of trust and deferring from vn govt side. neither side trust the others so it's hard to say how the collaboration will works. imo, it's better if vietnam works with similar size country. in any case, china govt needs to do a better job of keeping other neighbor interest in their plan.

I want to see something happen with Singapore. If China can't even get Singapore, then....

Singapore can be a lesson for how China relates to the westernized parts of Asia. Why does Singapore have better relations with Taiwan? I think China needs to seriously ask that question.
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