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post Feb 14 2012, 02:10 AM
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hypothetically speaking..you are a leader of china or one of the important government official, what would you propose to change in china? it can be from anything from political reform, economic reform, cultural reform, education reform, etc.. but only one you can do....
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post Feb 14 2012, 02:14 AM
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I would try to speak faster,instead of spilling out five words per minute.

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post Feb 14 2012, 02:24 AM
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Include minorities in family planning and strip away their disgusting minority benefits.
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post Feb 14 2012, 06:01 AM
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Get rid of autonomous regions.
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post Feb 14 2012, 07:06 AM
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post Feb 14 2012, 09:17 AM
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Constitution of China needs to change, 1947 constitution of China(read it here) was much better.

Administrative divisions of China need to be like in most countries, such as in the US, where bellow state level there is only county, and there are no ethnic areas, while in China bellow province level there are autonomous ethnic counties and prefectures for minorities.

Don't mention autonomy, just say self-government for minorities will be appropriate. Notice how the 1947 constitution just says The system of self-government in Tibet shall be safeguarded(article 120), while it is not mentioning any other area of China. I suspect it mentions Tibet because then it was only area of China not under direct control of central government, and those Tibetans living in Sichuan or Qinghai would not have special treatment according to that constitution.

It were the Communists that created all these ridiculous ethnic areas, such as in western Sichuan for Tibetans, now they are making trouble there. 1947 constitution treated everyone equally.

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post Feb 14 2012, 11:58 AM
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I'd kinda copy the models of many EU states

Crack down on corruption, institute a strong safety net and better minimum wages, work on pollution
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post Feb 14 2012, 12:11 PM
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Get rid of One Child Policy.
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post Feb 14 2012, 06:53 PM
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QUOTE (AsiaticGlory @ Feb 15 2012, 04:11 AM) *
Get rid of One Child Policy.


China is too overcrowded, ideally a population of 600 million will ensure enough manpower whilst being able to establish high per capita income.
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post Feb 14 2012, 07:48 PM
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The coach seats instead of this:




will be this:



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post Feb 14 2012, 08:36 PM
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I would instill more race nationalism and less communism, although I think socialism can be weaved into race nationalism as a form of race solidarity.
(rich people should care about poor people etc)

Secondly, all those affirmative actions will be erased, including at the political and social level, and I would even go as far as population redistribution (strictly non-violent but only using incentives) to disperse pockets of separate ethno-nationalism.

Nevertheless, strictly there shouldn't be any suppression through force of any cultural practices or languages, but I believe in gradual assimilation and don't believe in entrenching differences and implementing racial affirmative action.

Thirdly, One-child policy will be erased and replaced with Third-child baby bonus, with incentives, subsidy, tax break, bonus, and prizes.

Btw, it is not true that China should only care about its domestic GDP per capita, economic wellbeing, how many people is ideal and sustainable, and so on etc, because, China does not exist in a vacuum and the Chinese people in this world do not exist in a vacuum. We are all living in a globalized world which is getting smaller and smaller and more integrated.
In other words, Chinese people and civilization is competing with other peoples and civilizations. Put in other words, low birth rate is detrimental to the overall collective strength of the Chinese people. Everything from cultural projection, technological achievement, competition for natural resources, etc, will be less if the size is smaller. It is a bad thing.
Switzerland is small and rich. Brunai is small and rich. But they do not have the heft to determine their own fates and destinies.

Fourthly, I would instill civil service reform, and one of the ways I would do it is to benchmark the salary remuneration of public sector workers to the private sector counterparts (cannot fall below 80%) and instill KPIs, and fire 5% of the worst performers among the workforce each year.

Fifthly, renegotiate with Taiwan including considering moving the capital, having 2 co-capitals, having president and vice president from Taiwan for the first few terms, and even changing the flag, or adopting Taiwan's flag or a similar measure.

Sixthly, I would encourage more linkages to the overseas Chinese communities, give preferential treatment and passes to them, encourage investment, and I would do more things politically to influence conducive sociopolitical atmosphere for them in the various countries to help improve their safety and wellbeing. For instance if race riots happen somewhere, exert political pressure. No more low profile.

Seventhly, since the world is ever integrating and regional blocks are forming like the EU in Europe, Mercosur in Latin America, and so on, I believe East Asian regional block need to be sped up. I would give special attention and encourage and intensify regional integration. I would even unilaterally give special preferential treatment to regional nations of Korea, Japan, and Mongolia with special tax breaks, incentives, generous immigration rules, standardizations in industry, educational field, and so on.

Eighthly, I would put more energy into space exploration, deep sea exploration, and arctic and antarctica exploration.
In the past centuries China and actually the whole world has lost to a group of Western nations in exploration achievement, and the price is now being paid. Just take a look at Australia, America, and even Russian Siberia, which is much nearer to Chinese hinterland than it is to Russian hinterland. Yet all these big chunks are controlled by a small group of nations.
This means that for the next waves of human civilization, colonization, and discovery, the Chinese people must especially exert greater efforts to make up for the lag.

Ninthly, compulsory military conscription of 2 years would be instituted. This will be for both genders, male and female. This will help promote patriotism but more importantly, it promotes social unity, lessen classism and social division, and instill good character building values for the young people.

Tenthly,
I would make Dim Sum as the compulsory national food. Every Saturday everyone must eat Dim Sum.

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post Feb 14 2012, 08:41 PM
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I would form a committee to study the education and reform of certain fascists. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Feb 15 2012, 12:32 AM
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QUOTE (newties21 @ Feb 15 2012, 09:36 AM) *
I would instill more race nationalism and less communism, although I think socialism can be weaved into race nationalism as a form of race solidarity.
(rich people should care about poor people etc)

Secondly, all those affirmative actions will be erased, including at the political and social level, and I would even go as far as population redistribution (strictly non-violent but only using incentives) to disperse pockets of separate ethno-nationalism.

Nevertheless, strictly there shouldn't be any suppression through force of any cultural practices or languages, but I believe in gradual assimilation and don't believe in entrenching differences and implementing racial affirmative action.

Thirdly, One-child policy will be erased and replaced with Third-child baby bonus, with incentives, subsidy, tax break, bonus, and prizes.

Btw, it is not true that China should only care about its domestic GDP per capita, economic wellbeing, how many people is ideal and sustainable, and so on etc, because, China does not exist in a vacuum and the Chinese people in this world do not exist in a vacuum. We are all living in a globalized world which is getting smaller and smaller and more integrated.
In other words, Chinese people and civilization is competing with other peoples and civilizations. Put in other words, low birth rate is detrimental to the overall collective strength of the Chinese people. Everything from cultural projection, technological achievement, competition for natural resources, etc, will be less if the size is smaller. It is a bad thing.
Switzerland is small and rich. Brunai is small and rich. But they do not have the heft to determine their own fates and destinies.

Fourthly, I would instill civil service reform, and one of the ways I would do it is to benchmark the salary remuneration of public sector workers to the private sector counterparts (cannot fall below 80%) and instill KPIs, and fire 5% of the worst performers among the workforce each year.

Fifthly, renegotiate with Taiwan including considering moving the capital, having 2 co-capitals, having president and vice president from Taiwan for the first few terms, and even changing the flag, or adopting Taiwan's flag or a similar measure.

Sixthly, I would encourage more linkages to the overseas Chinese communities, give preferential treatment and passes to them, encourage investment, and I would do more things politically to influence conducive sociopolitical atmosphere for them in the various countries to help improve their safety and wellbeing. For instance if race riots happen somewhere, exert political pressure. No more low profile.

Seventhly, since the world is ever integrating and regional blocks are forming like the EU in Europe, Mercosur in Latin America, and so on, I believe East Asian regional block need to be sped up. I would give special attention and encourage and intensify regional integration. I would even unilaterally give special preferential treatment to regional nations of Korea, Japan, and Mongolia with special tax breaks, incentives, generous immigration rules, standardizations in industry, educational field, and so on.

Eighthly, I would put more energy into space exploration, deep sea exploration, and arctic and antarctica exploration.
In the past centuries China and actually the whole world has lost to a group of Western nations in exploration achievement, and the price is now being paid. Just take a look at Australia, America, and even Russian Siberia, which is much nearer to Chinese hinterland than it is to Russian hinterland. Yet all these big chunks are controlled by a small group of nations.
This means that for the next waves of human civilization, colonization, and discovery, the Chinese people must especially exert greater efforts to make up for the lag.

Ninthly, compulsory military conscription of 2 years would be instituted. This will be for both genders, male and female. This will help promote patriotism but more importantly, it promotes social unity, lessen classism and social division, and instill good character building values for the young people.

Tenthly,
I would make Dim Sum as the compulsory national food. Every Saturday everyone must eat Dim Sum.

big big big idea but some ideas aren't realistic. some also can't work under constructive circumstance. in fact, it is counterproductive. but solid write up though.

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post Feb 15 2012, 03:01 AM
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It will be like Obama but ten times worse. embarassedlaugh.gif
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post Feb 15 2012, 07:04 AM
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QUOTE (Crossbowman123 @ Feb 14 2012, 06:53 PM) *
China is too overcrowded, ideally a population of 600 million will ensure enough manpower whilst being able to establish high per capita income.


China is certainly not overcrowded, if you exclude sparsely populated areas such as Xinjiang, Tibet and Inner Mongolia China's population density is a little higher than in Germany and lower than in the UK.

China should Get rid of One Child Policy.

While western nations are trying to increase population China is the only nation on this planet and probably in the history of human civilization that is killing its own people.



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post Feb 15 2012, 09:57 AM
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Btw, the Dim Sum part is only a joke.

But the rest are all serious.

: )

Oh yeah I would add something more. This is quite important.

I would study how to completely restructure the economy and reform it totally, and accelerate the transition into the next higher value chain economy.

Because now a big chunk of the Chinese economy is just manufacturing and exporting, and mainly in low-end and middle end products.
Many Chinese people are suffering, working in factories, in spartan conditions, with little salaries, making products for foreign companies who pocket big profits, while they work like ants.

Some creative methods can be applied here, there must be a breakthrough and there must be outside the box thinking.

For instance by harnessing the power of the state and the big domestic corporations. This can marry the South Korean Chaebol approach (family conglomeration) and the Singaporean SOE (State Owned Enterprises) approach and also the Dubai / UAE' SWF (Sovereign Wealth Fund) approach. Just combine all these.
Because initially especially in the baby stages or modernization and industrialization, there is not enough merchant class and entrepreneur class and the capital and expertise is not well accumulated and channeled.
The state should get involved to stimulate the next stage of economic development but it must be done smartly.

Secondly,

Because there is still massive number of poor people who are living in poverty, even still above 100m+ people who are living in malnutrition, according to FAO data, this is a tragedy which must be addressed urgently and again it needs bold, courageous, visionary approach, that doesn't waste time and prolong this human tragedy.
I read recently that in Guangxi they are undergoing a massive population redistribution effort to move mountainous people who live in remote areas into new residential areas.
First batch is 100.000 residents, and in total it will be millions of residents later.
This is a bold approach and all such fundamental radical bold ideas should be used to reduce poverty and malnutrition in the shortest time possible.

Thirdly,

I will make Pokemon as a new Chinese god.
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post Feb 15 2012, 01:16 PM
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QUOTE (newties21 @ Feb 14 2012, 07:36 PM) *
I would instill more race nationalism and less communism, although I think socialism can be weaved into race nationalism as a form of race solidarity.
(rich people should care about poor people etc)


completely agreed
This should also extend to immigration policies where Mongoloids are heavily favored over non-Mongoloids. It's also a good way to address the point that people should not be exploited for profit. Hint: The main reason for the West's large non-white population isn't to promote diversity. It's more about exploiting cheap labor.

QUOTE (newties21 @ Feb 14 2012, 07:36 PM) *
Secondly, all those affirmative actions will be erased, including at the political and social level, and I would even go as far as population redistribution (strictly non-violent but only using incentives) to disperse pockets of separate ethno-nationalism.

Nevertheless, strictly there shouldn't be any suppression through force of any cultural practices or languages, but I believe in gradual assimilation and don't believe in entrenching differences and implementing racial affirmative action.


agreed
Affirmative Action programs would just encourage the ethnic minorities to feel separate from the Han Chinese. In addition, it makes their achievements look bad. Over here in America, people get suspicious of black ability because Affirmative Action makes it easier for them to get jobs or get into college.

QUOTE (newties21 @ Feb 14 2012, 07:36 PM) *
Thirdly, One-child policy will be erased and replaced with Third-child baby bonus, with incentives, subsidy, tax break, bonus, and prizes.


This is a good solution. However I think a better one would be where the couple is allowed to keep reproducing until they get a son. That way it would end the abortion and abandonment of baby girls in addition to solving the gender gap problem. I call this the "Keep Breeding Until You Get a Son" policy.

In any case, it seems suicidal for China to curb their population growth when India and Africa are not doing the same thing. That is the main problem I have with the One Child Policy. At the same time, a high birthrate would help expand China's influence on the world. It also means more Asian immigrants to help build the overseas Asian communities.

QUOTE (newties21 @ Feb 14 2012, 07:36 PM) *
Fifthly, renegotiate with Taiwan including considering moving the capital, having 2 co-capitals, having president and vice president from Taiwan for the first few terms, and even changing the flag, or adopting Taiwan's flag or a similar measure.


There definitely needs to be more cooperation between China and Taiwan. This is coming from a Taiwanese guy by the way.

QUOTE (newties21 @ Feb 14 2012, 07:36 PM) *
Sixthly, I would encourage more linkages to the overseas Chinese communities, give preferential treatment and passes to them, encourage investment, and I would do more things politically to influence conducive sociopolitical atmosphere for them in the various countries to help improve their safety and wellbeing. For instance if race riots happen somewhere, exert political pressure. No more low profile.


agreed
The overseas Asian community should get along with Asians from Asia. They can teach us Asian culture while we expand the borders of our race.

QUOTE (newties21 @ Feb 14 2012, 07:36 PM) *
Seventhly, since the world is ever integrating and regional blocks are forming like the EU in Europe, Mercosur in Latin America, and so on, I believe East Asian regional block need to be sped up. I would give special attention and encourage and intensify regional integration. I would even unilaterally give special preferential treatment to regional nations of Korea, Japan, and Mongolia with special tax breaks, incentives, generous immigration rules, standardizations in industry, educational field, and so on.


completely agree
People can keep arguing that Asians hate each other but the reality is that Chinese have a lot more in common with Japanese, Koreans, Vietnamese, and Mongolians than with whites, blacks, Latinos, Semitics, Indians, Pacific Islanders, etc. I am a Han Chinese raised in America and I can say that I get better along with Vietnamese and Koreans than with whites and Mexicans.

China should engage in cultural exchange with other Mongoloids who don't belong in the Sinosphere like Siberian natives, Kazakhs, Kyrgyz, Eskimos, etc.
East Asia should have more cooperation with Siberian natives.

QUOTE (newties21 @ Feb 14 2012, 07:36 PM) *
Eighthly, I would put more energy into space exploration, deep sea exploration, and arctic and antarctica exploration.
In the past centuries China and actually the whole world has lost to a group of Western nations in exploration achievement, and the price is now being paid. Just take a look at Australia, America, and even Russian Siberia, which is much nearer to Chinese hinterland than it is to Russian hinterland. Yet all these big chunks are controlled by a small group of nations.
This means that for the next waves of human civilization, colonization, and discovery, the Chinese people must especially exert greater efforts to make up for the lag.


I agree with this point a lot. In fact, this is what I have been saying all this time. White people end up dominating the world because they went out to explore and conquer. Australia and Siberia are much closer to East Asia than to Europe. Yet those regions are controlled by white people. Instead of fighting over the Spratly Islands and Dokdo, Asians should start taking over the Pacific Northwest, Siberia, and Oceania. Though Arabs and Indians would probably beat us in Oceania. This is where getting rid of the One Child Policy becomes handy. A higher birthrate means more Chinese to immigrate to expand the overseas communities.

There definitely needs to be more funding into space exploration. Asians lost the new world to whites but Asians must not repeat the same mistake with the space race.

QUOTE (newties21 @ Feb 14 2012, 07:36 PM) *
Ninthly, compulsory military conscription of 2 years would be instituted. This will be for both genders, male and female. This will help promote patriotism but more importantly, it promotes social unity, lessen classism and social division, and instill good character building values for the young people.


agreed
The sad reality is that Chinese parents (maybe other Asian parents) have a bad habit of spoiling their kids so military service is definitely a good way to undo the damage. Only problem is that China already has enough soldiers. Their focus should be more on developing technology and getting better training. Does China even have special forces?

What they can do is have something similar to boy or girl scouts.

QUOTE (newties21 @ Feb 14 2012, 07:36 PM) *
Tenthly,
I would make Dim Sum as the compulsory national food. Every Saturday everyone must eat Dim Sum.


sounds tasty
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post Feb 15 2012, 02:24 PM
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"Race nationalism" is just a euphemism for fascism.

Don't you know how many Chinese died fighting Japanese fascists?
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QUOTE (Edinburgh @ Feb 15 2012, 02:24 PM) *
"Race nationalism" is just a euphemism for fascism.

Don't you know how many Chinese died fighting Japanese fascists?


So you Brits hate Japanese?
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QUOTE (devils666 @ Feb 15 2012, 08:24 PM) *
So you Brits hate Japanese?


No; any decent human is anti-fascist.

"Race nationalism" sounds like what Hitler wanted.
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