I'm sick of all this whining Options

[kunomchu]

shoot yourself and die. Kthnx

[kennyboy]

It is a slap in the face to the chinese....when the Prime Minister visits Yasukuni shrine.....apologies don't mean crap if you don't mean it...it's simple as that.

Also the tremendous damage and atrocities japan did to china and Asia was MASSIVE......10 million chinese died....not to mention babies being thrown in the air, ppl getting heads chopped out, women getting raped by the hundreds of thousands, dogs chewing out the stomachs and intestines of victims, ppl getting sliced and stab for fun...

screw those who say china complains to much. NO SH!T...CHINA AND KOREA HAVE EVERY DAMN RIGHT TO COMPLAIN......yeah i understand crap does happen, but come on.....what Japan did was way too much and utter bullsh!t....

This post has been edited by kennyboy: Apr 5 2006, 09:21 PM

[herc]

Dont get mad...I dont know some countries govs...

o yea, like we totatly would.

[xaixai]

It is a slap in the face to the chinese....when the Prime Minister visits Yasukuni shrine.....apologies don't mean crap if you don't mean it...it's simple as that.

Also the tremendous damage and atrocities japan did to china and Asia was MASSIVE......10 million chinese died....not to mention babies being thrown in the air, ppl getting heads chopped out, women getting raped by the hundreds of thousands, dogs chewing out the stomachs and intestines of victims, ppl getting sliced and stab for fun...

screw those who say china complains to much. NO SH!T...CHINA AND KOREA HAVE EVERY DAMN RIGHT TO COMPLAIN......yeah i understand crap does happen, but come on.....what Japan did was way too much and utter bullsh!t....

ahha ur statement is tottoally understandable

[Jaimu-Jaimu]

Who the hell dug up this old thread?
This should be closed and destroyed. (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_rolleyes.gif)

[Zezei]

It is a slap in the face to the chinese....when the Prime Minister visits Yasukuni shrine.....apologies don't mean crap if you don't mean it...it's simple as that.

Also the tremendous damage and atrocities japan did to china and Asia was MASSIVE......10 million chinese died....not to mention babies being thrown in the air, ppl getting heads chopped out, women getting raped by the hundreds of thousands, dogs chewing out the stomachs and intestines of victims, ppl getting sliced and stab for fun...

screw those who say china complains to much. NO SH!T...CHINA AND KOREA HAVE EVERY DAMN RIGHT TO COMPLAIN......yeah i understand crap does happen, but come on.....what Japan did was way too much and utter bullsh!t....

STOP COMPLAINING

and so what? it happened in the past, already apologized. yasukuni shrine is also a place where loads of victims are buried. And the PM visits it to wish for PEACE and never fall into war again.

geezus, do we have a place in China where we can honor the chinese people who died in the Cultural Revolution, Tiananmen Massacre and political victims?

[hanzhongrenshi]

STOP COMPLAINING

and so what? it happened in the past, already apologized. yasukuni shrine is also a place where loads of victims are buried. And the PM visits it to wish for PEACE and never fall into war again.

geezus, do we have a place in China where we can honor the chinese people who died in the Cultural Revolution, Tiananmen Massacre and political victims?

From Japanese view,there is no wrong to honor the people fighting for their country.
There are many warlike guys in history honored as hero by the world.
but from Chinese and Korean's view,they complain of Japan is also justified.I also remained my natural hatred toward Japan's past.

will you not got these far-fetch things here?

[Takashi]

will you not got these far-fetch things here?

which far-fetched things are you referring to?

[Musashino]

Who the hell dug up this old thread?
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This post has been edited by Musashino: Apr 6 2006, 10:29 AM

[W&N]

When I said that China is wrong for what its doing now and Japan was not wrong for what it did in the early 20th century, it was not out of simple racism. China is being an imperialist in the 21st century, when imperialism is recognized as wrong and China knows this as it is doing it. However, when Japan was imperializing, it was at a time when Western countries were all imperializing and imperialism had a positive connotation. 20th century Japan had no idea that imperialism would one day be conceived as negative. Japan, working in its own best interests (to survive), did something we perceive TODAY as wrong: imperialize. However, back then it was not wrong and Japan did not take wrong actions. We cannot admonish the people of the past for doing something that was socially acceptable.

Imperialism was not wrong at that age, Millitarism was not that bad too. But genocide 300 thousands people in Nanking was not acceptable since human civilisation started. You can say, people always genocide other people, it's true. It still happens today. But, Nanking massacre is the biggest genocide example in human history. Some Japanese historian even argued that number is way to exaggerate. But look at some western article, they have full detail record about this.
I wonder if you even know the war crime of Japan. Have you ever seen those pictures in Nanking? The japanese royal army cut off the pregancy woman just wanna see her baby was boy or girls. They had competition about who can cut people's head faster. They used their blade to stick a boy and hold him up to take a picture. They stick their blade into a women's virgina after rapping her. In japanese 731 division, they use human for test. Take off their skin, pump water into their body and see how they blow....they put a man underground with his head on the air. They cut off his head and pump mercury into his body. A few mintues after, the man will be pumped out from ground by his own blood pressure with his skin left in the grave. do you want me to continue? Even Hitler felt extremely angry when he heard that, but for mutural benefit, germany needed to ally with Japan. I don't feel sick about it. I feel sad about the japanese army. They were not human anymore, they were evils. No human would do that on other human. Human would even show mercy on other animals. you know.
Till today, you still think Chinese people don't deserve a heartly apology? What cost you guys for a heartly appology with your prime minister knee on the floor. We don't need japan to apologize to PRC, or China. but to those victims who died in such great pain.....for comforting their souls in heaven, for those families who lose their wives, husbands, children, for reminding other human in the world that we should not let this history of evil happen again. You don't need to see how evil of other people, two wrongs don't make a right.
If you guys are brave men, apologize for your mistakes.

[kunomchu]

Its okay man. As long as you know its wrong, its okay. Some people will never get it. Its not just about WW2. Its about right and wrong. On that, I think we hold the moral high ground.

[kennyboy]

STOP COMPLAINING

and so what? it happened in the past, already apologized. yasukuni shrine is also a place where loads of victims are buried. And the PM visits it to wish for PEACE and never fall into war again.

geezus, do we have a place in China where we can honor the chinese people who died in the Cultural Revolution, Tiananmen Massacre and political victims?

F*CK YOU stupid chinese traitor. what right do you have to tell chinese/korean ppl to stop complaining? you don't even speak chinese, go to hell. why don't you tell those comfort women who have been raped dozens/hundreds of time to stop complaining?

don't you get it? i don't understand your logic and analogy. it doesn't mean anything if the apology is not genuinely sincere.....that shrine honors war criminals who were responsible for the units who committed those atrocities. come on. let's say Germany apologizes to Jews and then honors Adolf Hitler.....what the hell is that?
similar analogy here.

we are talking about hundreds of thousands of women being raped, the Japanese army experimenting on civilians(throwing grenades at civilians, freezing them, taking out individual body organs, babies' parts being chopped out and rearranged for fun), chopping hundreds of ppl heads for fun and competition.....

if Japan went to war under normal rules without committing these unnecessary acts, i wouldn't be that mad.....but what they did is NOT NORMAL AT ALL......that was some serious f*cked up sh!t....

[kunomchu]

Don't waste your time arguing with Zezei. Been there done that. Seriously, my Chinese brother, don't get yourself in trouble because of this crazy person.

[Jaimu-Jaimu]

Yes, please do ignore Zezei.
She's not fit to discuss anything deeper than Gucci handbags. (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_rolleyes.gif)

[W&N]

STOP COMPLAINING

and so what? it happened in the past, already apologized. yasukuni shrine is also a place where loads of victims are buried. And the PM visits it to wish for PEACE and never fall into war again.

geezus, do we have a place in China where we can honor the chinese people who died in the Cultural Revolution, Tiananmen Massacre and political victims?

You just made a stupid comparison
If china has a place like yusukuni shrine, then the souls they honor there should be those soldiers who died from killing innocent civilians. Just like Japan. They honor the criminal ( they are victims too , indeed ), you really want china to have such a shrine. Well, to be really remember the past and wish for peace, Japan should place tens of millions Asian Victims there, but not the people who killed them ! In this case, the prime minister can visit them 10 times a day if he wants to, nobody minds.

[toki]

closing. per request. and plus this thread is too heated now. pm me for any obligations