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the "istan" countries, just wondering about it...
Eclectic Asian
post Jun 30 2005, 10:48 AM
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ok, i don't know if this was asked already and either way i can't find the thread on it so i'll ask again just in case:

do the countries such as afghanistan, uzbekistan, kazahkistan, etc. have anything in common (sorry if spelled wrong btw...)

what does stan mean? and do these countries have common ties? where are their people descended from?

any other relevant facts to know about them?? just wondering...

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» jOie
post Jun 30 2005, 10:57 AM
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the only thing i know about these mentioned countries is that they're all in the middle east... that's one thing in common.
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post Jun 30 2005, 11:00 AM
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The suffix -stan or -sthan means in Persian "home of", and appears in the names of many countries and regions, especially in Asia. For example, "Turkmenistan" would mean "the home of the Turkmen."
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post Jun 30 2005, 12:17 PM
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post Jun 30 2005, 12:51 PM
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QUOTE (» jOie @ Jun 30 2005, 10:57 AM)
the only thing i know about these mentioned countries is that they're all in the middle east... that's one thing in common.

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Actually Kazakstan,Uzbekistan,Kyrgyzstan,Tajikistan and Turkmenistan are considered to be Central Asian Republics.
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post Jun 30 2005, 12:52 PM
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QUOTE (Iron Malayan @ Jun 30 2005, 01:51 PM)
QUOTE (» jOie @ Jun 30 2005, 10:57 AM)
the only thing i know about these mentioned countries is that they're all in the middle east... that's one thing in common.

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Actually Kazakstan,Uzbekistan,Kyrgyzstan,Tajikistan and Turkmenistan are considered to be Central Asian Republics.
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post Jun 30 2005, 01:55 PM
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i think it's a West/South/Central Asian culture related. because some Indians also call India "Hindustan"
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post Jul 1 2005, 10:25 AM
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The suffix -stan or -sthan means in Persian "home of",

were all those -stan countries once part of the Persian Empire?

ok so following this logic:
For example, "Turkmenistan" would mean "the home of the Turkmen."

and since

what would that mean for the others such as
Kazakstan,Uzbekistan,Kyrgyzstan,Tajikistan??

are they descended from the Mongols or Persians or something? anyone have pictures of these people?? i'm just curious. ok thanks (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_wink.gif)

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post Jul 1 2005, 10:32 AM
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There's pictures around in AF somewhere with mongoloids in those particular countries.

http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?...3&hl=mongoloids

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post Jul 1 2005, 03:47 PM
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QUOTE (PervertBurger @ Jun 30 2005, 07:00 PM)
The suffix -stan or -sthan means in Persian "home of", and appears in the names of many countries and regions, especially in Asia. For example, "Turkmenistan" would mean "the home of the Turkmen."
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I was always told that "stan" meant land or place. Like Hindustan is referring to the land of the Hindus.
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post Jul 1 2005, 05:08 PM
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It is a Persian word and crawled into Sanskrit and then into Pali as "tan." So in Asian languages heavily influenced by Theravada Buddhism, this word exists as "tan" such as in Tan Sua (paradise).
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QUOTE (Eclectic Asian @ Jul 1 2005, 12:25 PM)
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The suffix -stan or -sthan means in Persian "home of",

were all those -stan countries once part of the Persian Empire?

ok so following this logic:
For example, "Turkmenistan" would mean "the home of the Turkmen."

and since

what would that mean for the others such as
Kazakstan,Uzbekistan,Kyrgyzstan,Tajikistan??

are they descended from the Mongols or Persians or something? anyone have pictures of these people?? i'm just curious. ok thanks (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_wink.gif)
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well... kazakhstan is home to a large population of kazakhs, same with the uzbeks, the kyrgyzs, and the tajiks. i did a project on all the stans once. it was cool.

kazakhstan is also home to a considerable amount of koreans.

also, although their languages are all slightly different, they are all written with cyrillic characters. (think russian)heh. justa random fact.

haha. oh, and all the countries with part of the former USSR but all became republics in 1991, along with the baltic states and western european countries such as belarus. (with the exception of pakistan and afghanistan, which weren't part of the USSR)
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post Jul 2 2005, 01:59 AM
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QUOTE (NitaKang @ Jul 1 2005, 07:32 AM)
There's pictures around in AF somewhere with mongoloids in those particular countries.

http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?...3&hl=mongoloids
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i don't understand all that racial talk....so what's a mongoloid? someone who descended from the mongols? btw, the people in that link do kinda look like mongol in a sense (i see some asian in them)

btw, hamlet thanks for the info, i didn't know a large number of koreans lived in kazakhstan...but i wonder why

those -stan countries always seemed mysterious to me....they were never brought up in geography or history class (except for afghanistan because of osama bin laden, etc.) that's why i wonder so much about them

however, i haven't really found a straight answer to my original question, where are these people descended from?
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QUOTE (Eclectic Asian @ Jul 2 2005, 01:59 AM)
however, i haven't really found a straight answer to my original question, where are these people descended from?
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They all have different origins, pretty much though they're mixed (to varying degrees) between East Asians (Mongoloids) and Caucasians.
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post Jul 2 2005, 12:24 PM
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well in Hindi and Urdu 'stan' means land. so lot of pakis and indians say Hindustan instead of India.

whenever i goto my fams house in middle east or dubai, they never call it India, they refer to it as Hindustan as a lot of arabs do.
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post Jul 2 2005, 12:30 PM
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^haha. i was reading ur post and i endedup looking at your sig for maybe 20 seconds. haha.
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QUOTE (ham_let @ Jul 2 2005, 12:30 PM)
^haha. i was reading ur post and i endedup looking at your sig for maybe 20 seconds. haha.
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haha
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post Jul 3 2005, 01:05 AM
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i have another question...why aren't these countries ever brought up a lot in the news or something or in the media??? i mean news give events from around the world but i never hear from places such as the "stan" countries....

and also in school, they don't really talk about those countries in history/geography class...

i wonder why...

and i wonder what life is like in those countries...are they developed or developing?
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People of Kazakhstan and Kyrgyrzstan are mixed mongoloid/caucasoid hybrid race, but they look more mongoloid than anything.

kazakhstan:

(IMG:http://www.nevadawier.com/portfolio/graphics/kazakhstan-1955a.jpg)





Kyrgyzstan:




(IMG:http://www.ios2003.com/photopages/kc_zoo/kyrgyzstan.jpg)



The rest of the "stan countries" are caucasoid..ie pakistan, afghanistan, tajikstan, uzbekistan. with mongoloid tribes here and there, and of course many of the people are mixed with mongoloid from the invasion of genghis and the mongols.

People in uzbekistan are a mixed Mongoloid/Caucasoid race, but look predominantly caucasoid, Uzbeks take their name from Uzbek Khan.
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post Jul 3 2005, 02:35 AM
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wow, i can see a trace of mongolian in some of those pics...especially the eyes

how long did the mongols stay in these "stan" territories when the mongolian empire was thriving? i assume it must have been hundreds of years.

just like that one minority in iraq that has been persecuted for many years....the kurds. are they descended from the mongols as well? just wondering...
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