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post Jul 11 2005, 06:39 PM
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post Jul 11 2005, 07:03 PM
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lol the good old days of mandarians and lords.

The last Vietnamese empress of Vietnam(I believe the last empress of Vietnam was a French girl that that King Bao Dai was married to.)

(IMG:http://users.panola.com/vietnam/NamPhuong.jpg)

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post Jul 11 2005, 07:35 PM
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QUOTE (Byron @ Jul 11 2005, 07:03 PM)
lol the good old days of mandarians and lords.

The last Vietnamese empress of Vietnam(I believe the last empress of Vietnam was a French girl that that King Bao Dai was married to.)

(IMG:http://users.panola.com/vietnam/NamPhuong.jpg)
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She's not French.^^

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post Jul 11 2005, 08:00 PM
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Well actually your correct. Monique Vinh Thuy born Monique Baudot, Bao Dai's last Widow was technically a princess and not an empress. Not to mention they got married in 1977, when Bao Dai was probably already exiled from the country.

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post Jul 11 2005, 08:03 PM
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QUOTE (Byron @ Jul 11 2005, 08:00 PM)
I didn't say she was.  I said she was the last "Vienamese Empress" as in Kinh empress. 

Well actually your correct.  Monique Vinh Thuy born Monique Baudot, Bao Dai's last Widow was technically a princess and not an empress.

(IMG:http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/23/Princess_Monique_Vinh_Thuy.jpg)

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Yea she was technically not a "queen". I think the translation of empress is quite arguable.
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post Jul 11 2005, 08:05 PM
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I wonder if she would have been a Queen if Bao Dai was still in power in 1977?
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post Jul 11 2005, 08:21 PM
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QUOTE (Byron @ Jul 11 2005, 08:05 PM)
I wonder if she would have been a Queen if Bao Dai was still in power in 1977?
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http://users.panola.com/vietnam/NamPhuong.jpg

^^ She's the queen. Interesting fact though one of the forbidden pratice in Nguyen dynasty is that there should be no tittle as "queen", but later Bao Dai broke it and made her the queen. So she's the first and last queen of Nguyen dynasty lol
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post Jul 11 2005, 09:03 PM
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Nam Phương Hoàng Hậu was a Southern Vietnamese. Bảo Ðại had her as his queen and only wife upon her request. He had no 'cung phi' whatsoever (a rare exception). However, later on Bảo Ðại broke his promise when he married another woman. As i remembered, Nam Phương Hoàng Hậu was lonely and died in loneliness. She was highly respected as bậc mẫu nghi. But so sad ... and please don't say she was French or mixed or anything, but a Southern Vietnamese who was the mother of the nation.

Another picture of a Mandarin in the Nguyễn dynasty: A Binh Bộ Thượng Thư ... (something like Secretary of Defense)

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post Jul 11 2005, 09:19 PM
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QUOTE (soso @ Jul 11 2005, 09:03 PM)
Nam Phương Hoàng Hậu was a Southern Vietnamese. Bảo Ðại had her as his queen and only wife upon her request. He had no 'cung phi' whatsoever (a rare exception). However, later on Bảo Ðại broke his promise when he married another woman. As i remembered, Nam Phương Hoàng Hậu was lonely and died in loneliness. She was highly respected as bậc mẫu nghi. But so sad ... and please don't say she was French or mixed or anything, but a Southern Vietnamese who was the mother of the nation.

Another picture of a Mandarin in the Nguyễn dynasty: A Binh Bộ Thượng Thư ... (something like Secretary of Defense)

(IMG:http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a383/my_yiyi/BinhBoThuongThu.jpg)
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What year was this guy around? They didn't still use Chinese characters in the 20th century, did they?
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post Jul 11 2005, 09:24 PM
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He is from the Nguyen Dynasty which was in the 19th-20th century.
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post Jul 11 2005, 09:26 PM
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A Hoàng Thái Hậu of the Nguyễn Dynasty
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A Mandarin named Nguyễn Văn Tường
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A Mandarin named Phan Thanh Giản
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post Jul 11 2005, 10:20 PM
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In the picture, "A Mandarin named Phan Thanh Giản" the hat bears a striking resemblance to some old Korean hats worn by court officials. Really similar. Wish I had a picture to post.
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