1421, The Year China Discovered America |
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1421, The Year China Discovered America |
 Feb 21 2004, 03:51 PM
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AF Elite  Group: Members Posts: 8,376 Joined: 19-August 03 From: Philadelphia, PA  |
Never heard of it. And if China did discover America why is it credited to Christopher Columbus? Is it because he's the one to first publicize it?
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Feb 21 2004, 03:55 PM
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AF Supreme  Group: Members Posts: 11,388 Joined: 12-December 03 From: TEAM RAMROD |
Because all the documents of Chinese exploration were destroyed when the fleets returned due to the change in political leaders and such. That was when China started to turn inward, losing perspective on the outside world.
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Feb 21 2004, 03:59 PM
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AF Pro  Group: Members Posts: 1,903 Joined: 15-January 03 From: the middle of h*ll |
Dargggh. Nobody gets the credit they desearve.
Not even Columbus. America shouldn't have been named after Amerigo Vespucci anyway.. |
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 Feb 21 2004, 04:13 PM
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I'm going to file this in my 'special folder', along with "Phoenicians in New Zealand", "Egyptians in Mexico" and "Minoans in Minnesota".
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Feb 21 2004, 05:04 PM
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AF Elite Group: Members Posts: 8,376 Joined: 19-August 03 From: Philadelphia, PA |
QUOTE (SiLvErStArDuSt @ Feb 21 2004, 04:59 PM) Dargggh. Nobody gets the credit they desearve. Not even Columbus. America shouldn't have been named after Amerigo Vespucci anyway.. Well then we'd be Columbians!  Anyway sad how information is so inaccurate.-Norm |
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Feb 21 2004, 08:11 PM
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AF Addict  Group: Members Posts: 792 Joined: 18-December 03 From: USA, Philadelphia |
hey jess can you tell me about the 3 indian tribes cause weren't they here before ne of us?
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Feb 22 2004, 12:13 PM
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AF Supreme Group: Members Posts: 11,388 Joined: 12-December 03 From: TEAM RAMROD |
Well...I'm not too sure on the three Indian tribes that were here before any of us. But in terms of "discovery"--making a trip from one far distant land to another with records and such, 1421 [the book] says that the Chinese reached America first.
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Feb 22 2004, 12:26 PM
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AF Addict Group: Members Posts: 792 Joined: 18-December 03 From: USA, Philadelphia |
oooo k thnx jess
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Feb 22 2004, 01:50 PM
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AF Pro Group: Members Posts: 1,805 Joined: 29-January 04 |
Yeah the definition of 'discovery' is very subjective. When it comes to discovery, the Asians that migrated across the Bering Land Brigde must have been the first the discover it. The only way their statement is true is if they say the first civilization from the Old world to reach the New world.
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Feb 22 2004, 07:48 PM
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No one should be credited for decovering america except for the "NATIVE AMERICAN" They were there first one there.
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Feb 22 2004, 07:51 PM
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QUOTE (xiong @ Feb 22 2004, 07:48 PM) No one should be credited for decovering america except for the "NATIVE AMERICAN" They were there first one there. You're right. However, the Native-Americans were closed off from the rest of the world. Therefore, "bridging" the "New World" to the "Old World" is still an important feat. |
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Feb 22 2004, 08:13 PM
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AF Pro Group: Members Posts: 1,903 Joined: 15-January 03 From: the middle of h*ll |
Sure, but when have the Natives of anywhere gotten the better deal?
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Feb 22 2004, 08:24 PM
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AF Pro Group: Members Posts: 1,805 Joined: 29-January 04 |
QUOTE No one should be credited for decovering america except for the "NATIVE AMERICAN" They were there first one there. Native Americans migrated from Asia across the Bering Land Bridge. QUOTE Sure, but when have the Natives of anywhere gotten the better deal? The Natives of the Old World always get the better deal. |
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Feb 23 2004, 09:05 AM
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Would it change anything at all if Admiral Zheng He was not a Han?
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Feb 23 2004, 09:16 AM
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He wasn't a Han. I think he was a muslim eunich.
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Feb 23 2004, 09:22 AM
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I know that, Vince.
That's why I asked the question. He was an Uighur from land-locked Yunnan. |
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Feb 23 2004, 10:11 AM
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So why would it change anything?
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 Feb 23 2004, 10:12 AM
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QUOTE (Doan Du @ Feb 23 2004, 10:22 AM) He was an Uighur from land-locked Yunnan. Not a Uighur. A Hui. |
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Feb 23 2004, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE (DaMo @ Feb 23 2004, 11:12 AM) QUOTE (Doan Du @ Feb 23 2004, 10:22 AM) He was an Uighur from land-locked Yunnan. Not a Uighur. A Hui. A Hui is a Uighur, DaMo. Hui jiao means Islam in Chinese. |
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Feb 23 2004, 10:44 AM
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QUOTE (Kulong @ Feb 23 2004, 11:11 AM) So why would it change anything? That has implication. That's a lot like claiming Spain discovered the New World because Christopher Columbus sailed in Spanish vessels and his expedition was financed by Spain. Columbus was Italian. |
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