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Your thoughts on possible futur Japan, SK alliance, 4 economy, military, R&D, sea tunnel,etc
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post Sep 4 2005, 12:34 PM
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The relationship between korea and japan has cooled in recent times with the exception of some temporary spikes every now and then. These two countries and peoples are also very alike, having many things in common from history to being economic and cultural role models. 2005 also seems to be the year of japan korea friendship year; so i guess weve come a long way.

The two economies, militaries and governments continue to work together along with china to some extent. As china continues to rise i believe there will be a need for a counterbalance and it only seems natural that these two nations collaborate into a some sort of NAFTA/NORAD or even a limited EU like entity with the possibility of adding NK when it comes into SK's grasp. I can imagine it being a powerful economic giant combining the 2nd and 11th largest economies, both countries being the only asian states in the OECD and japan already having a spot in the influential group of 8. militaristically, it would be the most technological after the US as well as raising its status as a leading influencial entity in asia.

there's also the potential for much further growth if an SK autonomous government were to eventually be set up in the state of NK. i have some doubts that SK won't have the resources to deal with the massive burden of the development of NK on her own when the time comes without the financial backing of US & Japan. NK could also be used as a strategic "beachhead" into influencing/invading China more effectively with their loss of a buffer between sheer commercialism (ok, maybe that's a bit too ambitious).

Japan would also gain an upper hand in logistics if a sea tunnel were to be built connecting it to europe via the korean strait. these days it seems korea and japan are progressing with treaties, cultural trade and possible fta, etc so could some sort of alliance be feasible?

Please no bs, and ignorant, hypernationalistic drivel...
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post Sep 4 2005, 12:36 PM
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I think it would be great. It's about time they became more of friends, my 2 fav. countries :P.
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post Sep 4 2005, 12:54 PM
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QUOTE (CJK @ Sep 4 2005, 12:34 PM)
The relationship between korea and japan has cooled in recent times with the exception of some temporary spikes every now and then.  These two countries and peoples are also very alike, having many things in common from history to being economic and cultural role models.  2005 also seems to be the year of japan korea friendship year; so i guess weve come a long way.  

The two economies, militaries and governments continue to work together along with china to some extent.  As china continues to rise i believe there will be a need for a counterbalance and it only seems natural that these two nations collaborate into a some sort of NAFTA/NORAD or even a limited EU like entity with the possibility of adding NK when it comes into SK's grasp.  I can imagine it being a powerful economic giant combining the 2nd and 11th largest economies, both countries being the only asian states in the OECD and japan already having a spot in the influential group of 8.  militaristically, it would be the most technological after the US as well as raising its status as a leading influencial entity in asia.

there's also the potential for much further growth if an SK autonomous government were to eventually be set up in the state of NK.  i have some doubts that SK won't have the resources to deal with the massive burden of the development of NK on her own when the time comes without the financial backing of US & Japan.  NK could also be used as a strategic "beachhead" into influencing/invading China more effectively with their loss of a buffer between sheer commercialism (ok, maybe that's a bit too ambitious). 
Japan would also gain an upper hand in logistics if a sea tunnel were to be built connecting it to europe via the korean strait.  these days it seems korea and japan are progressing with treaties, cultural trade and possible fta, etc so could some sort of alliance be feasible?  

Please no bs, and ignorant, hypernationalistic drivel...
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more koreans wet-dream

invading China


go corea with your powerfull hanryu







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post Sep 4 2005, 01:04 PM
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No need to respond to a worthless comment with another one.
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post Sep 4 2005, 01:11 PM
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^ embarassedlaugh.gif2 why do you keep posting that outdated map? you like the idea?
anyways...yeah i think the alliance is possible if the two countries think that they both have something to gain from it...actually i think alliance with any country is possible for that matter if sk thinks that there's something to be gained... biggrin.gif
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post Sep 4 2005, 01:17 PM
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QUOTE (totalylegal @ Sep 4 2005, 12:54 PM)
more koreans wet-dream

invading China


go corea with your powerfull hanryu




That map was posted about two years ago before you joine this forum. So you are the only one who is bothererd with that ridiculous map, n00b.

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post Sep 4 2005, 01:34 PM
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2005 Korea-Japan friendship year could've been so much more if the Japanese hadn't brought up that whole Takeshima bs and the passing of distorted history books.
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post Sep 4 2005, 01:47 PM
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my thoughts? i don't particularly care for it.
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post Sep 4 2005, 02:46 PM
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QUOTE (kaizen @ Sep 4 2005, 01:17 PM)
QUOTE (totalylegal @ Sep 4 2005, 12:54 PM)
more koreans wet-dream

invading China


go corea with your powerfull hanryu




That map was posted about two years ago before you joine this forum. So you are the only one who is bothererd with that ridiculous map, n00b.
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yeah i wasnt here 2 years ago so wasnt you(unless you're a banned member),and i dont have energy to digg up for it.


i'm sure many members has not seen it yet.
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post Sep 4 2005, 02:47 PM
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Keep on topic or be warned.
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post Sep 4 2005, 02:51 PM
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That map shows parts of Russia as Korean too.

edit: Back to topic. I think SK and Japan would prosper with a more closely-knit economic alliance. =D

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post Sep 4 2005, 04:52 PM
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we barbarians should worship great china...





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post Sep 4 2005, 08:08 PM
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hahahaha... these maps are pretty funny... keep em coming embarassedlaugh.gif2

"Evil white people live here, but so does my son who goes to college there" embarassedlaugh.gif2

BTW China still has part of the disputed land of Kashmir in the Corea map, which makes no sense at all icon_confused.gif

Anyway, the future Japan, SK alliance... its not going to happen

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post Sep 4 2005, 08:18 PM
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QUOTE (SPQR @ Sep 4 2005, 06:08 PM)
hahahaha... these maps are pretty funny... keep em coming embarassedlaugh.gif2

"Evil white people live here, but so does my son who goes to college there" embarassedlaugh.gif2

BTW China still has part of the disputed land of Kashmir in the Corea map, which makes no sense at all icon_confused.gif

Anyway, the future Japan, SK alliance... its not going to happen
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Agreed, there's too much independence and seperation for the countries to get along together. Peace, maybe, but no alliances.

China was given Kashmir territory by Pakistan.
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post Sep 4 2005, 08:18 PM
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QUOTE (SPQR @ Sep 4 2005, 08:08 PM)
hahahaha... these maps are pretty funny... keep em coming embarassedlaugh.gif2

"Evil white people live here, but so does my son who goes to college there" embarassedlaugh.gif2

BTW China still has part of the disputed land of Kashmir in the Corea map, which makes no sense at all icon_confused.gif

Anyway, the future Japan, SK alliance... its not going to happen
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china does control part of kashmir






Sino-Indian War
Main article: Sino-Indian War

In 1962, People's Republic of China invaded a totally unprepared India using an ongoing minor border dispute as the "causus belli" even though there was no pre-existing Chinese claim on any part of Kashmir Sino-Indian War. China had the upper hand throughout the war, resulting in the Chinese occupation of the region called Aksai Chin, which continues to date, as well as a strip along the eastern border. In addition to these lands, another smaller area, the Trans-Karakoram, was ceded to China by Pakistan in 1963 in exchange of military assistance, including clandestine proliferation of nuclear and ballistic technology by a "Nuclear Weapon State", China, to Pakistan, a non-signatory of Nuclear Proliferation Treay (NPT). The line that separates India from China in this region is known as the Line of Actual Control. [2]

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post Sep 4 2005, 08:40 PM
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nice enlarged, bold red text.

joe mama = totalylegal?
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post Sep 4 2005, 09:24 PM
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QUOTE (Jizzah @ Sep 4 2005, 08:40 PM)
nice enlarged, bold red text.

joe mama = totalylegal?
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Obviously.
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post Sep 4 2005, 09:31 PM
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I'm all for Japanese and Korean alliance. lol
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post Sep 4 2005, 09:36 PM
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I think it should be China, Korea, Vietnam, India, Pakistan, Cambodia, Laos, Thailand, and every other S. East Asian, S. Asian country...except Japan.
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QUOTE (Joe mama @ Sep 4 2005, 09:18 PM)
QUOTE (SPQR @ Sep 4 2005, 08:08 PM)
hahahaha... these maps are pretty funny... keep em coming embarassedlaugh.gif2

"Evil white people live here, but so does my son who goes to college there" embarassedlaugh.gif2

BTW China still has part of the disputed land of Kashmir in the Corea map, which makes no sense at all icon_confused.gif

Anyway, the future Japan, SK alliance... its not going to happen
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china does control part of kashmir






Sino-Indian War
Main article: Sino-Indian War

In 1962, People's Republic of China invaded a totally unprepared India using an ongoing minor border dispute as the "causus belli" even though there was no pre-existing Chinese claim on any part of Kashmir Sino-Indian War. China had the upper hand throughout the war, resulting in the Chinese occupation of the region called Aksai Chin, which continues to date, as well as a strip along the eastern border. In addition to these lands, another smaller area, the Trans-Karakoram, was ceded to China by Pakistan in 1963 in exchange of military assistance, including clandestine proliferation of nuclear and ballistic technology by a "Nuclear Weapon State", China, to Pakistan, a non-signatory of Nuclear Proliferation Treay (NPT). The line that separates India from China in this region is known as the Line of Actual Control. [2]
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You are equally shortsighted as the one who made that Corea map... if Chinese soldiers can't hold onto Tibet or Uigur(whatever that is) like that map seems to indicate... then India automatically gets the Chinese part of Kashmir... when China is in a weakened stated, do you think India will stand by and let the opportunity to seize the disputed territory pass... of course not... being a fictional map where China loses most of its outer territories... it should have made the Chinese controlled section of Kashmir part of India... sure.gif sure.gif sure.gif sure.gif
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