How have the egyptian changed from ancient, to present? Options

[dalawapo]

And im not talking so much about cultural, religious change but genetic change? (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/confused.gif)

[chilli21]

the last time we've heard from the ancient egyptians, they were under Roman's rule. years later, some muslim arabs settled in the mysterious land called Egypt and up until now.

[dalawapo]

oh, but would u say the people depicted on the tombs and temples of egypt are relatively the same people we see in egypt today except they were islamized?

[FrenchVanillaNYC]

oh, but would u say the people depicted on the tombs and temples of egypt are relatively the same people we see in egypt today except they were islamized?

Not really. They have been mixed a lot, some look closer to the ancient images than others....

Here were some of the images of Ancient Egyptian depictions of themselves through artwork...

(IMG:http://www.raceandhistory.com/manu/images/rahotepa.jpg)

(IMG:http://www.colonialvoyage.com/viaggi/London17.jpg)

(IMG:http://www.bladesandbeastsswords.com/Egyptian%20Plaques/5159GirlsWithFluteBanoreHarp.jpg)

(IMG:http://www.bladesandbeastsswords.com/Egyptian%20Plaques/5157BoatProcession.jpg)

(IMG:http://www.talking-statues.com/EGYPTIAN/EGYPTIAN_T-PLKFG_PLANTER_FEMALE.jpg)


Compared with the Egyptians of today who range a lot.....:

(IMG:http://www.ci.baltimore.md.us/believe/images/egyptians.jpg)

(IMG:http://digitalartist.com.my/img_collection/egypt/Two-Egyptians.jpg)

(IMG:http://www.youregypt.com/issue7/images/topic.jpg)

(IMG:http://www.geocities.com/wally_mo/00000_peopleok1.jpg)

(IMG:http://www.geocities.com/wally_mo/0000000Mostafaok2.jpg)

[dalawapo]

man the egyptians i seen would look really spiffy in their old ancient threads! like with the gold breast plates and hair cut, wow!!!!!

[FrenchVanillaNYC]

^They should bring it back. (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/embarassedlaugh.gif) 2
Imagine those two old men up there in aunthentic Egyptian "bling". (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/rotflmao.gif)

Yeah, I wish there was some way to bring it back.

[dalawapo]

yeah but.... you know

[FrenchVanillaNYC]

I don't know. (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_neutral.gif)

[lilasiankid]

In the future they look like the guys in "Stargate" (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/embarassedlaugh.gif)

[dalawapo]

oh yesssssssss stargate is the shet!!!! (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/love2.gif) those jaffa or whatever need to be freed!!!! (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/madgo.gif)

[Jasel]

the last time we've heard from the ancient egyptians, they were under Roman's rule. years later, some muslim arabs settled in the mysterious land called Egypt and up until now.

I think it was Greek, not Roman. I wouldn't swear on it though, and don't feel like looking it up now, but I'm pretty sure.

[TheTruth]

the last time we've heard from the ancient egyptians, they were under Roman's rule. years later, some muslim arabs settled in the mysterious land called Egypt and up until now.

That may be the last you heard of Ancient Egypt, but AE was around long before Roman rule (30 BC-AD 395).


Modern Egyptians and Ancient Egyptians are of different stock. Upper Egyptians are probably the closet to the Ancient Egyptians because they didn’t really mix with foreigners as did Lower Egyptians.

[dalawapo]

did lower egyptians mix with the sub saharan african aka a black people?

[bond007]

did lower egyptians mix with the sub saharan african aka a black people?

You are not reading any posts on this forum. How many time did I mentioned that Sub Sahara Africa does not exist? So-called black people do not live in "sub-Sahara" Africa exclusively.

I mentioned so many times of countries that are right in the Sahara desert and are also so called black. Ranging from Mauritania in the West to Sudan in the East.


Nota Beta: Why are you bringing up a dead topic? This has been argued too many times

This post has been edited by bond007: Oct 8 2005, 10:14 AM

[TheTruth]

did lower egyptians mix with the sub saharan african aka a black people?

Huh? "black people" are in more than just below the Sahara. What are you implying here?

If you are interested in Ancient Egypt I recommend these sites:


The Nile Valley
http://phpbb-host.com/phpbb/index.php?mforum=thenile

Egypt Search (good site, but too much debate over the race of Ancient Egyptians)
http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/Ultimate.cgi?action=intro

Tour Egypt
http://www.touregypt.net/


I hope this helps.

[bond007]

Huh?  "black people" are in more than just below the Sahara.  What are you implying here?

People have a nasty habit of thinking that indigenous African only populate south of the Sahara and that the Sahara desert are populated exclusively by Arabs.

Firstly some of the northern countries are populated by Berbers, not Arabs. Secondly as I mentioned so many times, the countries I indicated are located in the Sahara desert, not south of it and are populated by indigenous Africans.

Westerners coined the term sub-Sahara Africa in an attempt to clump the indigenous African south of the Sahara. Which is ludicrous.

About those web site you recommended, I do not need to go there because the Rosetta stone deciphered by Europeans indicated that The Egyptians migrated from PUNT, which is located by the Horn of Africa. Since I know what kind of people lived there at that time, to me...



GAME OVER for those disbelievers. They can believe in their truths I believe in mine. This debate is stale and constantly repeated in an attempt to invoke reactions and emotions.

This post has been edited by bond007: Oct 8 2005, 10:54 AM

[chilli21]

the last time we've heard from the ancient egyptians, they were under Roman's rule. years later, some muslim arabs settled in the mysterious land called Egypt and up until now.

That may be the last you heard of Ancient Egypt, but AE was around long before Roman rule (30 BC-AD 395).

who doesn't know AE was around long before Roman rule? i was talking the last time we've heard about the Ancient Egyptians. The first pharaoh is said to be Narmer during the early dynasty period around 3150-2686 BC.

[chilli21]

the last time we've heard from the ancient egyptians, they were under Roman's rule. years later, some muslim arabs settled in the mysterious land called Egypt and up until now.

I think it was Greek, not Roman. I wouldn't swear on it though, and don't feel like looking it up now, but I'm pretty sure.

the Roman Empire was huge. the Greeks and the Egyptians were under Roman rule.

[chilli21]

did lower egyptians mix with the sub saharan african aka a black people?

back in the acient times, i'm sure a few egyptians did mixed with nubians and libyans. nubians had much darker skin than ancient egyptians and they were a bit bigger too. sometimes, they were used as the pharaoh's bodyguards.

[chilli21]

did lower egyptians mix with the sub saharan african aka a black people?

Huh? "black people" are in more than just below the Sahara. What are you implying here?

If you are interested in Ancient Egypt I recommend these sites:


The Nile Valley
http://phpbb-host.com/phpbb/index.php?mforum=thenile

Egypt Search (good site, but too much debate over the race of Ancient Egyptians)
http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/Ultimate.cgi?action=intro

Tour Egypt
http://www.touregypt.net/


I hope this helps.

and this site:

http://www.geocities.com/thegloriousegyptians/

it's a very detailed site.