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brucewayne
post Oct 23 2005, 11:55 PM
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Just read a news today from Berita harian...

Tentera AS cuci kasut guna al-Quran

TELUK GUANTANAMO: Tentera Amerika Syarikat di Afghanistan menggunakan halaman yang dikoyakkan dari naskhah al-Quran untuk mengesat dan menyuci kasut mereka yang kotor, kata seorang tahanan Islam di penjara Amerika di Cuba itu.
Jumah Al-Dossary, 30, salah seorang daripada enam warga Bahrain yang ditahan di penjara Guantanamo mengesahkan bahawa al-Quran dihina di kem itu manakala tahanan Islam turut menjadi mangsa penderaan seksual, lapor The Associated Press.

Al-Dossary berkata, beliau melihat dengan mata kepalanya sendiri tentera Amerika di Pangkalan Udara Tentera Amerika di Kandahar, Afghanistan membersihkan kasut mereka menggunakan kertas yang dikoyak dari naskhah al-Quran.

Menurut dokumen sulit yang baru didedahkan oleh peguamnya, Joshua Colangelo-Bryan, Al-Dossary dibelasah dan dipijak oleh lapan tentera Amerika sejurus selepas tahanan Islam itu baru menjalani pembedahan perut.

Menurut dokumen itu, pada September 2002, al-Dossary dibawa ke bilik soal siasat dan berdepan dengan empat polis tentera dengan salah seorang daripadanya membawa kamera video.

Katanya, beliau dirantai di atas lantai sebelum dilucutkan pakaian sehingga bogel atas arahan seorang penyoal siasat wanita.

“Wanita itu kemudiannya berbogel, bertinggung di atas kemaluan, dada dan muka saya sebelum dia mengesat darah haidnya ke atas badan saya bagi memaksa saya membuat pengakuan mempunyai hubungan dengan rangkaian al-Qaeda,” kata al-Dossary yang dicatatkan dalam dokumen itu.

Selepas bertemu dengan enam tahanan Bahrain di penjara Guantanamo, Colangelo-Bryan, yang baru tiba di Amerika berkata, enam lelaki itu kini bimbang mereka terpaksa merengkuk di dalam penjara itu seumur hidup.

Sementara itu, laporan terbaru menyatakan, tentera Amerika berulang kali memasukkan tiub makanan kotor ke hidung banduan yang melancarkan mogok lapar sehingga banduan itu muntah darah. – Agensi

“Mereka menjolok salur itu menerusi hidung banduan sehingga salur itu tiba ke perut berulang kali,” kata peguam yang melaporkan kejadian itu kepada hakim persekutuan Amerika pada Ogos lalu.

“Keadaan itu mengakibatkan banduan terbabit muntah darah. Apabila muntah, tentera menghina banduan dengan menyatakan, lihatlah apa yang agama kamu lakukan ke atas diri kamu,” menurut dokumen itu yang baru didedahkan, lapor Associated Press.

Warga Arab Saudi, Yousef al Shehri, 21, yang ditahan di Guantanamo, berkata pegawai memindahkan tiub itu dari seorang banduan kepada banduan lain tanpa mencucinya terlebih dulu.

Seorang lagi banduan berkata, doktor tentera menjolok tiub itu menerusi hidungnya ke perut sehingga menyebabkannya muntah darah. – Agensi


`Nauzubillah....`
Semoga Allah memberi kekuatan kpd mangsa2 penderaan.
Hanya utk menyampaikan kekejaman yg dilakukan oleh tentera Amerika ke atas saudara2 kita. icon_sad.gif
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Wulandari
post Nov 8 2005, 10:19 PM
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QUOTE
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But isn't this called generalization , grandmama? you agreed earlier,that there must be some good muslims not all muslims are terrorists or support terrorism ,right? icon_wink.gif

Otherwise Malaysia would not have progressed due to the sheer number of idiotic suicide bombers icon_wink.gif







Yes, my dear

I agree that there are some good Muslims, and not all Muslims are terrorist or support terrorist.

However, how if the number of those bad Muslims is much bigger than the number of good Muslims? And those good Muslims don't do anything to their bad brother Muslims. Does it mean that ACTUALLY the good Muslims INDIRECTLY support their bad brother Muslims ?

It means those bad Muslims and those good Muslims actually almost the same?
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post Nov 10 2005, 12:11 AM
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QUOTE (Wulandari @ Nov 9 2005, 11:19 AM)
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Ponpon said:

But isn't this called generalization , grandmama? you agreed earlier,that there must be some good muslims not all muslims are terrorists or support terrorism ,right? icon_wink.gif

Otherwise Malaysia would not have progressed due to the sheer number of idiotic suicide bombers icon_wink.gif







Yes, my dear

I agree that there are some good Muslims, and not all Muslims are terrorist or support terrorist.

However, how if the number of those bad Muslims is much bigger than the number of good Muslims? And those good Muslims don't do anything to their bad brother Muslims. Does it mean that ACTUALLY the good Muslims INDIRECTLY support their bad brother Muslims ?

It means those bad Muslims and those good Muslims actually almost the same?
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Tongue twisting..you're good.. biggthumpup.gif

And how if the number of those good muslim outnumbered the bad? lol..we can play this the whole day.. icon_wink.gif
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post Nov 10 2005, 10:39 AM
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QUOTE (mmmbop @ Nov 10 2005, 01:11 AM)
QUOTE (Wulandari @ Nov 9 2005, 11:19 AM)
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Ponpon said:

But isn't this called generalization , grandmama? you agreed earlier,that there must be some good muslims not all muslims are terrorists or support terrorism ,right? icon_wink.gif

Otherwise Malaysia would not have progressed due to the sheer number of idiotic suicide bombers icon_wink.gif







Yes, my dear

I agree that there are some good Muslims, and not all Muslims are terrorist or support terrorist.

However, how if the number of those bad Muslims is much bigger than the number of good Muslims? And those good Muslims don't do anything to their bad brother Muslims. Does it mean that ACTUALLY the good Muslims INDIRECTLY support their bad brother Muslims ?

It means those bad Muslims and those good Muslims actually almost the same?
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Tongue twisting..you're good.. biggthumpup.gif

And how if the number of those good muslim outnumbered the bad? lol..we can play this the whole day.. icon_wink.gif
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Ah.......

Don't be too sensitive, my dear icon_smile.gif

I am talking based on my experiences !

When Muslim terrorists attack WTC in 2001, majority of Muslims in my country said that America deserved to be attacked in that tragedy, JUST BECAUSE ARROGANCY EXCUSE. In means majority Muslims in my country supported the murders of 3,000 civilians in that event, majority of 230 million people. In WTC 2001 attack, 3,000 civilians were cowardly murdered by those terrorists.

Supporting the murders, is almost the same by doing the murder

What do you think, my dear?


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- - rx7boy   Well sometimes human can act worse than animal.. N...   Oct 24 2005, 09:06 AM
- - caramel   QUOTE Yousef al Shehri, a 21 year-old Saudi detain...   Oct 25 2005, 01:09 AM
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- - caramel   Well, it was published on CNN how the American, Br...   Oct 25 2005, 07:45 PM
|- - Wulandari   QUOTE (caramel @ Oct 25 2005, 08:45 PM)Well, ...   Oct 26 2005, 08:07 AM
- - caramel   I was talking about the Afghans my dear. It's ...   Oct 26 2005, 08:51 AM
|- - ponpon   ^_Wulan as a grandmama you should set a good examp...   Oct 26 2005, 09:10 AM
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