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Vietnamese people are lost han chinese ?
CoDep
post Nov 1 2005, 02:12 PM
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Answer your question about Vietnamese family names:

Ancient Vietnamese have no written language.
When the Chinese came to Vietnam about 2 thousand years ago,
they taught their written language and Chinese characters. They
also called the Vietnamese names in Chinese, writting the Vietnamese
names in Chinese characters. Then the ancient Vietnamese learnt
Chinese, speaking Chinese with their own accent that the Chinese
cannot understand, and even pronouncing Chinese characters in
pure Vietnamese. That is the reason the Vietnamese names can be
written in Chinese characters, and can be read in either of the 3 ways:
pure Chinese accent, Chinese with Vietnamese accent, and pure
Vietnamese sound.

There is one thing you may need to know:
There are thousands of thousands of Chinese who have migrated
and stayed in Vietnam since then . However, there are only few
Chinese who can speak Chinese, and remember the old place in
China their parents come from. So, physically, many Vietnamese
nowadays may be Chinese, but spiritually, they are Vietnamese .
These Chinese have lost their own identity, and put on the identity
of local people who accepted them and loved them as brothers and
sisters.

In the world of human being, there are always good people who
think positively about people, and bad people who think negatively.
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post Nov 1 2005, 02:14 PM
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QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Nov 1 2005, 02:01 PM)
Why don't we ask where does China come from???
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Wee, what is the answer to this, from the ground, stones, trees?
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post Nov 1 2005, 02:16 PM
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QUOTE (CoDep @ Nov 1 2005, 02:12 PM)
Answer your question about Vietnamese family names:

Ancient Vietnamese have no written language.
When the Chinese came to Vietnam about 2 thousand years ago,
they taught their written language and Chinese characters. They
also called the Vietnamese names in Chinese, writting the Vietnamese
names in Chinese characters. Then the ancient Vietnamese learnt
Chinese, speaking Chinese with their own accent that the Chinese
cannot understand, and even pronouncing Chinese characters in
pure Vietnamese. That is the reason the Vietnamese names can be
written in Chinese characters, and can be read in either of the 3 ways:
pure Chinese accent, Chinese with Vietnamese accent, and pure
Vietnamese sound.

There is one thing you may need to know:
There are thousands of thousands of Chinese who have migrated
and stayed in Vietnam since then . However, there are only few
Chinese who can speak Chinese, and remember the old place in
China their parents come from. So, physically, many Vietnamese
nowadays may be Chinese, but spiritually, they are Vietnamese .
These Chinese have lost their own identity, and put on the identity
of local people who accepted them and loved them as brothers and
sisters.

In the world of human being, there are always good people who
think positively about people, and bad people who think negatively.
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May be they just don't want to associate with the painful past that they left behind?
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post Nov 1 2005, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE (CoDep @ Nov 1 2005, 02:12 PM)
Answer your question about Vietnamese family names:

Ancient Vietnamese have no written language.
When the Chinese came to Vietnam about 2 thousand years ago,
they taught their written language and Chinese characters. They
also called the Vietnamese names in Chinese, writting the Vietnamese
names in Chinese characters. Then the ancient Vietnamese learnt
Chinese, speaking Chinese with their own accent that the Chinese
cannot understand, and even pronouncing Chinese characters in
pure Vietnamese. That is the reason the Vietnamese names can be
written in Chinese characters, and can be read in either of the 3 ways:
pure Chinese accent, Chinese with Vietnamese accent, and pure
Vietnamese sound.

There is one thing you may need to know:
There are thousands of thousands of Chinese who have migrated
and stayed in Vietnam since then . However, there are only few
Chinese who can speak Chinese, and remember the old place in
China their parents come from. So, physically, many Vietnamese
nowadays may be Chinese, but spiritually, they are Vietnamese .
These Chinese have lost their own identity, and put on the identity
of local people who accepted them and loved them as brothers and
sisters.

In the world of human being, there are always good people who
think positively about people, and bad people who think negatively.
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i can understand that to a point , but how can you be spiritually vietnamese if you worship chinese dietys. that just contradicts itself.
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post Nov 1 2005, 02:18 PM
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That is the same as worshipping Buddha!

QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Nov 1 2005, 02:14 PM)
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Nov 1 2005, 02:01 PM)
Why don't we ask where does China come from???
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Wee, what is the answer to this, from the ground, stones, trees?
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Does the Chinese know where they came from, human evolution or God made?

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QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Nov 1 2005, 02:14 PM)
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Nov 1 2005, 02:01 PM)
Why don't we ask where does China come from???
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Wee, what is the answer to this, from the ground, stones, trees?
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north west of mongolia
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post Nov 1 2005, 02:23 PM
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QUOTE (RiDer oN ThE RoAd @ Nov 1 2005, 02:21 PM)
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Nov 1 2005, 02:14 PM)
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Nov 1 2005, 02:01 PM)
Why don't we ask where does China come from???
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Wee, what is the answer to this, from the ground, stones, trees?
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north west of mongolia
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I know but it is evolution or God made??

What is the main religion in China, Buddhism, Communism, Daoism??

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Whoops, communism is not a religion or is it? Does it have a religion?

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QUOTE (PhoShizzle @ Nov 1 2005, 02:12 PM)
Q57 make this thread in the korean chat also, and it got closed why didnt they close down this thread
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report it if you do not wish this thread to continue
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No, it is constructive so far!
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QUOTE (neinei @ Nov 1 2005, 11:32 AM)
viet and han are different, but viet can be considered a lost yeuh tribe that never assimiliated into the Han

as for viet being cambodian, NO...we are in noway related to them, we didnt even have contact with them since Champa was blocking our way til 1300's, but i have done some research, and i see alot of cambodians say that china and and cambodia are long lost blood brothers biggrin.gif
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i dont think davidchen would like that to happen embarassedlaugh.gif2
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QUOTE (neinei @ Nov 1 2005, 11:32 AM)
but i have done some research, and i see alot of cambodians say that china and and cambodia are long lost blood brothers biggrin.gif
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post Nov 1 2005, 02:51 PM
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QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Nov 1 2005, 02:23 PM)
QUOTE (RiDer oN ThE RoAd @ Nov 1 2005, 02:21 PM)
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Nov 1 2005, 02:14 PM)
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Nov 1 2005, 02:01 PM)
Why don't we ask where does China come from???
*


Wee, what is the answer to this, from the ground, stones, trees?
*


north west of mongolia
*



I know but it is evolution or God made??

What is the main religion in China, Buddhism, Communism, Daoism??
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So where did the Chinese poeple come from - evolution or God made? If the Chinese are trying to say everything come from China, where did they come from?
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Monkeys.
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QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Nov 1 2005, 02:51 PM)
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Nov 1 2005, 02:23 PM)
QUOTE (RiDer oN ThE RoAd @ Nov 1 2005, 02:21 PM)
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Nov 1 2005, 02:14 PM)
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Nov 1 2005, 02:01 PM)
Why don't we ask where does China come from???
*


Wee, what is the answer to this, from the ground, stones, trees?
*


north west of mongolia
*



I know but it is evolution or God made??

What is the main religion in China, Buddhism, Communism, Daoism??
*



So where did the Chinese poeple come from - evolution or God made? If the Chinese are trying to say everything come from China, where did they come from?
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we came from heaven as a dragon and met a phoenix on a mountain , and made the emporer.
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QUOTE (DavidChen @ Nov 1 2005, 03:00 PM)
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Nov 1 2005, 02:51 PM)
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Nov 1 2005, 02:23 PM)
QUOTE (RiDer oN ThE RoAd @ Nov 1 2005, 02:21 PM)
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Nov 1 2005, 02:14 PM)
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Nov 1 2005, 02:01 PM)
Why don't we ask where does China come from???
*


Wee, what is the answer to this, from the ground, stones, trees?
*


north west of mongolia
*



I know but it is evolution or God made??

What is the main religion in China, Buddhism, Communism, Daoism??
*



So where did the Chinese poeple come from - evolution or God made? If the Chinese are trying to say everything come from China, where did they come from?
*



we came from heaven as a dragon and met a phoenix on a mountain , and made the emporer.
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Therefore it is God made, not evolution, for God made heavens, dragons and phoenixes. It would be funny if it is from monkeys. So what religion then?

But what about where did other peoples come from???

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QUOTE (DavidChen @ Nov 1 2005, 04:00 PM)
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Nov 1 2005, 02:51 PM)
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Nov 1 2005, 02:23 PM)
QUOTE (RiDer oN ThE RoAd @ Nov 1 2005, 02:21 PM)
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Nov 1 2005, 02:14 PM)
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Nov 1 2005, 02:01 PM)
Why don't we ask where does China come from???
*


Wee, what is the answer to this, from the ground, stones, trees?
*


north west of mongolia
*



I know but it is evolution or God made??

What is the main religion in China, Buddhism, Communism, Daoism??
*



So where did the Chinese poeple come from - evolution or God made? If the Chinese are trying to say everything come from China, where did they come from?
*



we came from heaven as a dragon and met a phoenix on a mountain , and made the emporer.
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embarassedlaugh.gif2 i came from heaven too
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QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Nov 1 2005, 03:02 PM)
QUOTE (DavidChen @ Nov 1 2005, 03:00 PM)
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Nov 1 2005, 02:51 PM)
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Nov 1 2005, 02:23 PM)
QUOTE (RiDer oN ThE RoAd @ Nov 1 2005, 02:21 PM)
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Nov 1 2005, 02:14 PM)
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Nov 1 2005, 02:01 PM)
Why don't we ask where does China come from???
*


Wee, what is the answer to this, from the ground, stones, trees?
*


north west of mongolia
*



I know but it is evolution or God made??

What is the main religion in China, Buddhism, Communism, Daoism??
*



So where did the Chinese poeple come from - evolution or God made? If the Chinese are trying to say everything come from China, where did they come from?
*



we came from heaven as a dragon and met a phoenix on a mountain , and made the emporer.
*



Therefore it is God made, not evolution, for God made heavens, dragons and phoenixes. It would be funny if it is from monkeys. So what religion then?
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daoism,yin-yang
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I see a lot of Daoism worshipping Buddha. What percentage is Daoism as a religion. Does communism have the same status as a religion and therefore is also a religion.

But how about other poeples, where did they come from or where do the Chinese think they come from?
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QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Nov 1 2005, 02:51 PM)
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Nov 1 2005, 02:23 PM)
QUOTE (RiDer oN ThE RoAd @ Nov 1 2005, 02:21 PM)
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Nov 1 2005, 02:14 PM)
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Nov 1 2005, 02:01 PM)
Why don't we ask where does China come from???
*


Wee, what is the answer to this, from the ground, stones, trees?
*


north west of mongolia
*



I know but it is evolution or God made??

What is the main religion in China, Buddhism, Communism, Daoism??
*



So where did the Chinese poeple come from - evolution or God made? If the Chinese are trying to say everything come from China, where did they come from?
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where did china come from? all the countries used to be one connected landmass called Pangea. tetonic plates shifted and separated making the different continents we have today.
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