Your opinion on Kelentan state goverment?, No flaming please Options

[Icez]

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[samheisfl]

It will be very interesting to see the result of by election in the Pengkalan Pasir constituency.

In the last election PAS managed  to beat BN by only 55 votes.

But the participation of Datuk Ibrahim can change a lot..

[Iron Malayan]

Najib: We have big plans for Kelantan

PASIR MAS: Barisan Nasional has big plans for Kelantan, including the state's first public university, but it will be up to the voters to determine the state’s future political standing.

Besides a university, the coalition plans to eradicate poverty, set up successful agriculture ventures and address the plight of smallholders, Deputy Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak said.

There would also be moves to lure small- and medium-sized industries (SMIs) to spark more growth in the sector, he said at a Raya gathering of ex-servicemen at SK Mekasar in Kasa, near here, yesterday.

Najib said all these could not be implemented in an orderly fashion if the state and Federal Government were not working in tandem, adding that voters have a choice to either opt for a status quo or to signal a change by voting for the Barisan.

He said a victory for the Barisan in the Dec 6 Pengkalan Pasir by-election here would be the starting point for changing the fate of the people of Kelantan. The state had been under the stewardship of PAS since 1990.

Najib, who is Umno deputy president, advised PAS to listen to the people, and reiterated his call to the state government to dissolve the state assembly and call fresh state polls.

“The Barisan cannot force PAS to dissolve the assembly, but the party should listen to the clarion call for change,” he said. 

[forrestcat]

It will be very interesting to see the result of by election in the Pengkalan Pasir constituency.

In the last election PAS managed  to beat BN by only 55 votes.

I think i'd rather have a state in the hands of any opposition, does not give too much power to BN and we could see which does better in ruling a state. I dun think PAS should relinquish the State Assembly even if BN wins Pasir Mas, wait till the next General Election.

I think we will really see whether the people like PAS or not after Nik Aziz's retire(or after he passes away gracefully), too many sympathise PAS coz of Nik Aziz and people generally don't know other PAS leaders. Evrytime you think about PAS leadership, u think of Nik Aziz , no one else. (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/embarassedlaugh.gif) . I believe that Nik Aziz is a good chap. Despiete his Arabic outlook which our BN media like to portray as talibanised, he's a humble old man and have good ties with non muslims and you can visit the old man in his humble abode anytime, PAS is lucky for having such a good leader.

[samheisfl]

I think we will really see whether the people like PAS or not after Nik Aziz's retire(or after he passes away gracefully), too many sympathise PAS coz of Nik Aziz and people generally don't know other PAS leaders. Evrytime you think about PAS leadership, u think of Nik Aziz , no one else. (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/embarassedlaugh.gif) . I believe that Nik Aziz is a good chap. Despiete his Arabic outlook which our BN media like to portray as talibanised, he's a humble old man and have good ties with non muslims and you can visit the old man in his humble abode anytime, PAS is lucky for having such a good leader.

That is very true.. I've in Kelantan sometimes ago with my schoolmates and we were invited to the Menteri Besar Kelantan official house.. the house is kinda old...

But what amuse me is that Nik Aziz usually eat 'nasi bungkus' for his lunch and dinner at home. Besides that, he seldomly lived in his official house. the house where he lived isn't a banglo but more likely to a typical kampung house.

He donated half of his salary every month to help the poor. (Don't know wether it is true or not because i was told this by his S/U)

This post has been edited by samheisfl: Nov 21 2005, 02:15 AM

[Iron Malayan]

It shouldn't matter how a Chief Minister live or what he eats.

Its how much he can develop his state that counts.

[samheisfl]

It shouldn't matter how a Chief Minister live or what he eats.

Its how much he can develop his state that counts.

yes.. it is also true... but with limited budget and the pressure from the central gov. , there is nothing much can be done.

Besides that maybe Kelantan can be considered as the poorest state but their living standard isn't as high as KL or Selangor..
Here, you can get a plate of rice + fried chicken + fried vege. + a potion of rendang meat and a glass of lime syrup (sirap limau) for only RM 1.80... Believe me, i've been there..

Besides that, we doesn't know exactly what the PAS gov. has developed in Kelantan since the main stream media wouldn't dare to report it... instead they will report that Kelantan is the poorest state.

This post has been edited by samheisfl: Nov 22 2005, 03:07 AM

[Iron Malayan]

The flood season will add more drama to the Pengkalan Pasir by-election.

[Aranadhel]

Malaysia is a secular country like Turkey... its true... whether you wanna accept it or not... although Islam is the national religion.. thats all. (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_wink.gif)

[Iron Malayan]

Pengakalan Pasir - Barisan's Hanafi confirmed winner

News Update by The Star News Desk

KOTA BARU: It is now official - Barisan Nasional's Hanafi Mamat is the new Pengakalan Pasir Assemblyman.

The recounting process this morning from 10am till about 12noon showed that Hanafi obtained a majority of 134 votes. He polled 7,422 votes while PAS' Hanafia Ahmad got 7,288.

The recounting also confirmed that independent candidate Datuk Ibrahim Ali lost his deposit as he obtained only 415 votes.

There were 158 spolit votes.

The result was announced by Returning officer Abdul Halim Rahman.

Abdul Halim had last night ordered a recount because the majority obtained by Hanafi, then at 120 votes, was less than 2% of the total voter turnout.

This victory now leaves PAS with only a single seat majority in the 45-seat State Assembly.

[AEROFORCE1]

Only "miracle" can save teacher beaten by Muslim mob

BANGKOK, Thailand -- A Buddhist teacher who was beaten into a coma by a mob demanding the release of Islamic insurgents has only a slim chance of survival, her doctor said Saturday.

Juling Kamphongmoon sustained severe injuries, including blood clots in her brain, when she was beaten by Muslim villagers Friday who were holding two other women teachers hostage at a government school in southern Thailand.

More than 200 villagers surrounded the school in Narathiwat province to demand the release of two suspected Muslim rebels arrested earlier the same day in connection with the killing of two marines.

"There is slim chance that she will survive. I would like to urge Thais throughout the country to pray for a miracle to happen to Juling," Dr. Sumet Phirawut told a news conference.

The hostages were held about three hours before being released. Another teacher was slightly injured in the protest.

Last September, villagers in the same district held hostage two marines who were stabbed to death. The villagers believed that they had been involved in the killing of two of their fellow residents at a village teashop. Police have arrested dozens people in connection with the killings.

More than 1,300 people have been killed in violence in the south since a separatist movement flared in January 2004. The country's three southernmost provinces of Narathiwat, Yala and Pattani are the only Muslim-majority areas in Thailand, which is predominantly Buddhist.

Southerners have long complained of mistreatment by authorities and discrimination, especially in jobs and education. (AP)

May 20, 2006

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It happen again. I dont know how Thai Malay hate Thai like this. Sorry to say that I think that it is because PAS party is the one bad mouthing Thai. I dont intend to insult any one. But I think our goverment really need to sitdown and talk. Thai Gov really need to work together with PAS to improve d relationship between Thai and Malay in d border.

PS: I jst quote this news from Thai serious talk ,It really bad espacially when the teachers were dragged past the mosque and one bother to help her.

This post has been edited by AEROFORCE1: May 22 2006, 08:50 AM

[forrestcat]

It will take time for violence in Southern Thailand to abate but it is good that the number of violence is not as frequent as before. People are still angry over the death of Muslim protesters in the Tak Bai incident and it will take some years before that incident is forgotten and people carry on with their life.

As for PAS, I dunno whether they have anything to do with the violence, although they may have criticized the Thai authorities a lot .But if PAS supports such violence, Malaysia would have experienced the same situation as in Southern Thailand a long time ago.

[AEROFORCE1]

The local muslim in border already lost their faith on Thai gov ,they listen to Msia side more ,many of them cant even speak Thai. They watch Msia media and I guess the local news paper which sale in Kelantan is also read by Thai southerner. So the opinion from Msia side is really a big deal for the peace in the southern part of Thailand.

[forrestcat]

Dun worry, Malaysia is not interested in receving extra poor states if that's what you are worried about.

Thailand should jumpstart economic activities in Southern Thailand, give them jobs and economic incentives. People usually rebel coz of economic hardship(which could be hijacked by radicals to propagate their ideals), I mean in 1997, the Soeharto government collapsed and even the Mahathir government was threatened when the economy collapsed. If people have jobs, they fall in line. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/Talktohand.gif)

One reason the BN government in Malaysia is stabil is because of economic prosperity, people in Malaysia are more interested working for money, and not really into changing status quo. Meanwhile in Indonesia , the provinces of Irian Jaya and Acheh seek independence because they claim Jakarta is sucking their land's resources, the same in the Philippines with their impoverished Mindanao.Jakarta reacted to the Irian Jaya problem by announcing long term plans develop the province. So the solution to Southern Thailand is more concerned with the development of those states, because I hear the poverty there is bad . But it may be more complicated than that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon_neutral.gif)

My 2 sen opinion.

[malaccan]

@AERO:

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if you can, try to find this movie... get your Msian friend to buy it for you. It's a small budget, independent Malay movie revolving around a Malay community in southern thailand. It's directed by an arty if somewhat controversial director U-Wei Shaari. It's got nothing directly related to the problems with the Thai authorities. In fact it's merely about Malay villagers at odds with each other over a cow fight. (Jogho is the Pattani/Kelantan pronounciation of Juara, which means "champion" in Malay). The acting and background is very authentic and realistic. The nuances of the life of southern Thai Malay-Muslims are captured very subtly and beautifully and are instructive on how they view the Thai policemen and their own family members who live across the border, who just happened to have the "right papers" ie Malaysian identity cards. The extras were made up of local southern Thai Malay villagers; the movie was shot in Thailand. Their lives are worlds apart from those of us who come from the urban centres of Kuala Lumpur and Bangkok.

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[Protoculture]

@AERO:

(IMG:http://www.geocities.com/malayfilms/poster/jogho1b.jpg)

if you can, try to find this movie... get your Msian friend to buy it for you. It's a small budget, independent Malay movie revolving around a Malay community in southern thailand. It's directed by an arty if somewhat controversial director U-Wei Shaari. It's got nothing directly related to the problems with the Thai authorities. In fact it's merely about Malay villagers at odds with each other over a cow fight. (Jogho is the Pattani/Kelantan pronounciation of Juara, which means "champion" in Malay). The acting and background is very authentic and realistic. The nuances of the life of southern Thai Malay-Muslims are captured very subtly and beautifully and are instructive on how they view the Thai policemen and their own family members who live across the border, who just happened to have the "right papers" ie Malaysian identity cards. The extras were made up of local southern Thai Malay villagers; the movie was shot in Thailand. Their lives are worlds apart from those of us who come from the urban centres of Kuala Lumpur and Bangkok.

(IMG:http://www.geocities.com/filemelayu/gambar/filem/jogho5b.jpg)

I like U-Wei's fim. Malaccan, if I'm not mistaken, the 'Jogho' film was produced & funded by Japanese sources, not from FINAS, right?

[tengkuafif]

You'll never know whether that Malay is from Kelantan or Pattani because both of them speak the same language.
Anyways,I agree that both Pantai Timur and Pak Tai are nice place.
Beautiful beaches and islands! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggthumpup.gif)
Ahh...lovely!

This post has been edited by tengkuafif: May 25 2006, 09:52 AM

[kelantanese]

ehem ehem... talking about my homeland here???

[malaccan]

I like U-Wei's fim. Malaccan, if I'm not mistaken, the 'Jogho' film was produced & funded by Japanese sources, not from FINAS, right?

Yeah, it was part;y funded by NHK.

[AEROFORCE1]

I heard d news about d local goverment will reward those PORNOR teacher who married with the local non muslim with 100,000RM and a car. Am I right?