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jd1478jd
post Jan 6 2006, 10:03 AM
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Here's a little, very simple question for you lot;

An article states that the Earth will always make a complete revolution every twenty four hours.

Please prove that in order for this to be correct, the Earth must rotate at 1/4 degrees per minute.

Here is a slightly harder question;
If a car brakes suddenly, there is a possibility that the vehicle will skid. Accident investigators use a formula in order to determine the velocity of the vehicle; v^2=Mu * D

Where D is the distance in metres of the skids that were made, and mu is the coefficient of friction between the tyres and the surface. (This value is variable, and entirely dependant on the surface of the road and the tyres used.)

In a 30mph speed zone, an accident occurs, and so causes skids of 28 metres in length. The investigators perform an experiment and find out that a car travelling at 10 metres per second, leaves skid marks of length 17.5 metres.

Use this data to find the value of mu. (Assume that the tyres used in the experiment were identical to those of the car in the accident.)

Also, find the velocity of the car (In mph) when the brakes were applied.
Assume that 1 mph = 0.447 metres per second.

Good luck!! biggthumpup.gif

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post Jan 7 2006, 11:24 AM
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This is the type of thread that supports negative asian sterotypes.
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post Jan 7 2006, 10:09 PM
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QUOTE (jd1478jd @ Jan 6 2006, 08:03 AM)
Here's a little, very simple question for you lot;

An article states that the Earth will always make a complete revolution every twenty four hours.

Please prove that in order for this to be correct, the Earth must rotate at 1/4 degrees per minute.

Here is a slightly harder question;
If a car brakes suddenly, there is a possibility that the vehicle will skid. Accident investigators use a formula in order to determine the velocity of the vehicle; v^2=Mu * D

Where D is the distance in metres of the skids that were made, and mu is the coefficient of friction between the tyres and the surface. (This value is variable, and entirely dependant on the surface of the road and the tyres used.)

In a 30mph speed zone, an accident occurs, and so causes skids of 28 metres in length. The investigators perform an experiment and find out that a car travelling at 10 metres per second, leaves skid marks of length 17.5 metres.

Use this data to find the value of mu. (Assume that the tyres used in the experiment were identical to those of the car in the accident.)

Also, find the velocity of the car (In mph) when the brakes were applied.
Assume that 1 mph = 0.447 metres per second.

Good luck!! biggthumpup.gif
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please, i'm a middle schooler, not some math geek in a university
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post Jan 8 2006, 10:27 AM
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QUOTE (stillarook @ Jan 8 2006, 03:09 AM)
please, i'm a middle schooler, not some math geek in a university
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I'll join.
You don't need to be in university to answer those questions icon_rolleyes.gif

Question
An article states that the Earth will always make a complete revolution every twenty four hours.

Please prove that in order for this to be correct, the Earth must rotate at 1/4 degrees per minute.

My Solution
24 hours = 1440 minutes
Full rotation = 360 degrees
360/1440 = 0.25 degrees per minute

Question
If a car brakes suddenly, there is a possibility that the vehicle will skid. Accident investigators use a formula in order to determine the velocity of the vehicle; v^2=Mu * D

Where D is the distance in metres of the skids that were made, and mu is the coefficient of friction between the tyres and the surface. (This value is variable, and entirely dependant on the surface of the road and the tyres used.)

In a 30mph speed zone, an accident occurs, and so causes skids of 28 metres in length. The investigators perform an experiment and find out that a car travelling at 10 metres per second, leaves skid marks of length 17.5 metres.

Use this data to find the value of mu. (Assume that the tyres used in the experiment were identical to those of the car in the accident.)

Also, find the velocity of the car (In mph) when the brakes were applied.
Assume that 1 mph = 0.447 metres per second.

My Solution
v^2 = muD (mu is coefficient of friction)
10^2 = 17.5mu
100/17.5 = mu
therefore mu = 5.714 to 3 d.p.

Accident that takes place:
v^2 = 5.714*28
v^2 = 160 (using unshortened value of mu)
therefore v = 12.65 m/s to 2 d.p. which is 28.3 mph to 1 d.p.

Haven't checked it through, think it's ok though, might be some typos icon_confused.gif
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post Jan 8 2006, 10:31 AM
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ugh! i hate math.. LOL.. biggrin.gif

math is my worst nightmare!!! biggrin.gif
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post Jan 8 2006, 12:03 PM
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QUOTE (yee~hah @ Jan 8 2006, 10:31 AM)
ugh! i hate math.. LOL.. biggrin.gif

math is my worst nightmare!!! biggrin.gif
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Me too, math is too complex.
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post Jan 8 2006, 12:06 PM
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^^ yeah... and all those math-know-it-alls are annoying...LOL.. just kidding.. but i wish that i was a math whiz....LOL.. biggrin.gif
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post Jan 10 2006, 09:46 AM
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Maths is only annoying if you can't see the root or escence of the puzzle, in exactly the same way as english is boring to us lot.
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post Jan 10 2006, 01:28 PM
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^ So what were the answers?
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post Jan 11 2006, 11:03 PM
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QUOTE (Takashi @ Jan 10 2006, 11:28 AM)
^ So what were the answers?
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absolutely no idea at ALL.
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post Jan 12 2006, 07:25 AM
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QUOTE (Takashi @ Jan 8 2006, 04:27 PM)
I'll join.
You don't need to be in university to answer those questions icon_rolleyes.gif

Question
An article states that the Earth will always make a complete revolution every twenty four hours.

Please prove that in order for this to be correct, the Earth must rotate at 1/4 degrees per minute.

My Solution
24 hours = 1440 minutes
Full rotation = 360 degrees
360/1440 = 0.25 degrees per minute

Question
If a car brakes suddenly, there is a possibility that the vehicle will skid. Accident investigators use a formula in order to determine the velocity of the vehicle; v^2=Mu * D

Where D is the distance in metres of the skids that were made, and mu is the coefficient of friction between the tyres and the surface. (This value is variable, and entirely dependant on the surface of the road and the tyres used.)

In a 30mph speed zone, an accident occurs, and so causes skids of 28 metres in length. The investigators perform an experiment and find out that a car travelling at 10 metres per second, leaves skid marks of length 17.5 metres.

Use this data to find the value of mu. (Assume that the tyres used in the experiment were identical to those of the car in the accident.)

Also, find the velocity of the car (In mph) when the brakes were applied.
Assume that 1 mph = 0.447 metres per second.

My Solution
v^2  = muD (mu is coefficient of friction)
10^2 = 17.5mu
100/17.5 = mu
therefore mu = 5.714 to 3 d.p.

Accident that takes place:
v^2 = 5.714*28
v^2 = 160 (using unshortened value of mu)
therefore v = 12.65 m/s to 2 d.p. which is 28.3 mph to 1 d.p.

Haven't checked it through, think it's ok though, might be some typos  icon_confused.gif
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10^2 = 20mu*d

Thus 100= 20 mu * 17.5

mu= 100/(20*17.5)= 100/350 =0.286 , which when rooted = 0.534 Very close mate. First one, perfect.

Obviously your value of mu would determine the answers to the rest of the question, but I got a value of v as 12.7 metres per second, so 12.7/0.447= 28.3

Well done.
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post Jan 12 2006, 07:58 AM
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QUOTE (yee~hah @ Jan 8 2006, 11:31 AM)
ugh! i hate math.. LOL.. biggrin.gif

math is my worst nightmare!!! biggrin.gif
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u get use to it, trust me biggrin.gif
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post Jan 12 2006, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE (jd1478jd @ Jan 12 2006, 12:25 PM)
10^2 = 20mu*d

Thus 100= 20 mu * 17.5

mu= 100/(20*17.5)= 100/350 =0.286 , which when rooted = 0.534 Very close mate. First one, perfect.

Obviously your value of mu would determine the answers to the rest of the question, but I got a value of v as 12.7 metres per second, so 12.7/0.447= 28.3

Well done.
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Where did the 20 randomly come from?
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post Jan 13 2006, 07:05 AM
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Wow this thread is still alive.


Go the power of MATH!!!!

Okay just to keep the thread going here's a question:
What do you call a polygon with infinite sides?
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post Jan 17 2006, 10:55 AM
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doesn't exist does it?

What shape has infinite lines from its origin?
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post Jan 17 2006, 12:06 PM
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^ a circle
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post Jan 18 2006, 08:18 AM
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This thread is missing some action.
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post Jan 18 2006, 08:30 AM
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freefallz, watch channel 10

how many squares? the guy said 28 was the closest answer sofar, i think thers 42 icon_redface.gif
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post Jan 18 2006, 09:53 AM
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QUOTE (Takashi @ Jan 12 2006, 05:29 PM)
Where did the 20 randomly come from?
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Sorry mate, actually can't remember? I'll try to redo it, and see if I do the same (Mistake??) again. embarassedlaugh.gif2
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post Jan 19 2006, 09:25 AM
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You guys feel free to post any problems/debates here.
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