Yuet People, read this Options

[BishoujoHunter]

http://www.hoklo.org/YuetCulture/Articles/?item=4#4

What was the Yuet civilization like in the past? The situation of Han and Yuet civilizations can be better described by borrowing a contemporary analogy. Let us take a look at the situation of two groups of people: the Europeans, and the Americans. The U.S.A. is a country fairly unified under one single language and political system, whereas the Europeans are a conglomeration of many languages and many political entities. Nonetheless, among these varieties of cultures in Europe, there is quite a bit of shared ground, which has allowed a loose sense of a European identity.

Surely enough, the French word for "cheese" is "fromage", which bears little resemblance to the Spanish word "queso". But considering the English word "cheese", the German word "Käse", and then the Spanish word "queso", it is clear that there are subgroups of languages that share words with a common origin. There are some words shared only by French and Spanish but not English, just as there are words shared by English and Spanish but not French.

Unlike the Han civilization that was unified (by force or otherwise), there was never a large block of single political entity to the Yuet cultural blocks. When we talk about a hypothetical "Proto-Yuet" language, it does not mean that there was once one single politically dominant language that subjugated all the others. Rather, it's a loose reconstruction of a mosaic of languages, with subgroups which shared words of a common origin. Yuet history was a shuffling and reshuffling of various cultural and linguistic groups that only maintained a loose sense of unity. Not unlike the history of Europe.

Just as today's Indo-European languages, the descendants of the Proto-Yuet, or Austric/Austro-Tai languages do keep traceable cognate words.

Even though modern Hoklo and Hakka are doubtlessly classified as Han Chinese languages today, the presence of substratum words of ancient Yuet origin is an undeniable proof that the Han Chinese language was a later import into these ethnicities.

The word for "spider" is a good example of a cognate word in some modern Yuet-descedant languages. Its traces can be found in inland languages like She, Hakka, a coastal language like Hoklo, and many Malayo-Polynesian islander languages like Malay-Indonesian, Hawaiian and Rapanui. (For more information on Rapa Nui and its famous Moai statues, please visit http://www.rapanui.cl/)

Hard to believe at first, but it is true: Hoklo and Hakka do have ancient cognate words shared by languages half-way around the globe. It is not surprising that these Hakka or Hoklo words do not have Chinese character representation, no matter how hard some scholars dig into ancient Chinese dictionaries. The reason is obvious: these words simply were not Chinese!

Here are some observations on the current meanings of the various descendant terms show in the chart above. (1) Hoklo's laaqiaa and Rapanui's nanai are not generic terms for spider. Rather, they refer to particular species of spider. (2) All the other terms shown in the chart are generic terms in their respective languages. In particular, Hakka's lakia is a generic term. This substratum word renders strong support to a deep degree of aborigine connection of the Hakka people, despite the popular belief of a northerner's Han origin.

Zhongguo-ren are expansionists

This post has been edited by BishoujoHunter: Apr 8 2004, 04:35 AM

[Kulong]

Zhongguo-ren are expansionists

Can you name any powerful nation who hasn't expanded in the past? (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_rolleyes.gif)

In this world you either expand or perish.

[DAI_VIET]

Who are the Yuets? Sounds Viet to me.

[Thanol]

Yuet = Ancient Southern Chinese.

This post has been edited by Thanol: Apr 8 2004, 02:40 PM

[Kulong]

I don't know what "Yuet" is, but the people who lived in southern China thousands of years ago was called Yue. Some of them were assimilated into the Han (Chinese) culture, some interbred, and the rest fled southward to modern Vietnam.

[supernovasp]

I don't know what "Yuet" is, but the people who lived in southern China thousands of years ago was called Yue. Some of them were assimilated into the Han (Chinese) culture, some interbred, and the rest fled southward to modern Vietnam.

Yuet is Yue in cantonese

[Kulong]

I don't know what "Yuet" is, but the people who lived in southern China thousands of years ago was called Yue.  Some of them were assimilated into the Han (Chinese) culture, some interbred, and the rest fled southward to modern Vietnam.

Yuet is Yue in cantonese

OK, thanks.

[-Emperor-]

So you're saying the Hakka are part of the Yue people?

[Kulong]

So you're saying the Hakka are part of the Yue people?

Don't worry too much, Emperor (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/embarassedlaugh.gif)

It's just another silly attempt by Southeast Asian Pacific Islanders to claim land from China (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/embarassedlaugh.gif) (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Hakka people were originally from northern China. They migrated southwards to avoid wars in the north. Hakka is also called Kejia, which means "guests". I'm sure when they moved southwards and settled there, their language was influenced by southerners somewhat.

[BishoujoHunter]

OK this is not a claim you know but we should know facts in history like the yuet people
Yuet people are a variety Austro-Tai and Austro Asiatic peoples(Austro-tai in the north then Austro Asiatic in the south) maybe that is why Austro-Tai and AustroAsiatic people share vocubalary I think is because of Interaction with the speakers know what I mean and I think the hakkas intermarried with the Austro-Tai and AustroAsiatic people of the south and maybe adopted their vocubalary and culture (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

http://www.hoklo.org/
http://www.hoklo.org/YuetCulture/Articles/?item=6#6
Type A (shouldered axes/shovels)

(IMG:http://www.hoklo.org/YuetCulture/Articles/ChippedPebble/youjian.gif)

Type B (chipped axes)

(IMG:http://www.hoklo.org/YuetCulture/Articles/ChippedPebble/youtuan.gif)

Distribution Map
(Red = Type A, Green = Type B)
(IMG:http://www.hoklo.org/YuetCulture/Articles/ChippedPebble/distribution.gif)

Actually Pacific Islanders voluntarily left their homeland while the Siamese,malays(including Taiwanese Aborigines and champa) except Ancestors of hoklo people,kadai speakers,she and the zhuangs moved south because of the migration of the han people and the moving of those people caused the Nan Yuet/Vietnamese/Annam i do not call Vietnamese Yuet to not confuse w/ the austro-tai instead I call them Annam to move south also but the vietnamese regained those lands There's no point for the pacific Islanders to claim their homeland because they voluntarily left their homeland as I said earlier
and I actually say that Pacific Islanders first left while the proto-malays were pushed out of their homeland during Qin dynasty and those people who stayed in their homeland were irreversibly sinified but still look like a pure austronesian who are sinodont actually the Ancient Yangtze Valley civilization I call the people there yuet were the ones that invented the compass and were great sailors and were also building pyramids and the other descendants of the yangtze valley civilization or yuets other than malays,thais,kadai speakers and zhuang do not know they are descendants of the Yangtze Valley Civilization

This post has been edited by BishoujoHunter: Apr 9 2004, 12:16 AM

[Ben]

moving to serious talk