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Spratly Islands Rightfully Belongs to Vietnam
bo-chung-may
post Apr 11 2006, 01:39 PM
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QUOTE (MING-LOYALIST @ Jan 23 2006, 07:14 PM) *
Man that is TOOOO long an article to read.
But "Spratly islands rightfully belong to China."


May co muon o tu ruc xuong ko thi bao? An noi bo lao bo leu
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post May 18 2006, 04:16 AM
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why dont we just divide the spratlys between malaysia philippines and vietnam, and leave none for china? we are all ASEAN anyway.
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post May 18 2006, 08:53 PM
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QUOTE(amritsaramritsar @ May 18 2006, 07:16 PM) [snapback]1861267[/snapback]

why dont we just divide the spratlys between malaysia philippines and vietnam, and leave none for china? we are all ASEAN anyway.

It belongs to VietNam and VietNam only.
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post May 19 2006, 02:26 AM
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QUOTE(amritsaramritsar @ May 18 2006, 04:16 AM) [snapback]1861267[/snapback]

why dont we just divide the spratlys between malaysia philippines and vietnam, and leave none for china? we are all ASEAN anyway.


QUOTE(amritsaramritsar @ May 18 2006, 03:12 AM) [snapback]1861126[/snapback]

The Spratlys are obviously Philippine territory, because Philippine lawyers have argued time and time again that the nearest country to the Spratlys is the Philippines, and that the Spratlys sits on the Philippine Shelf. Just look at the map. Isn't it just obvious that the Spratlys are part of the Philippines? Now try including it in China's map, it just looks like some giant p3nis sticking out of its guts. It's obviously them trying to grab some tropical islands because it's too cold in China. Try including it in Vietnam's map. It doesn't look good either. The Philippines had presented their argument on the basis of UNCLOS (United Nations Convention on the Law of the Seas) that states that withing some distance from the border of the country, it still has some maritime jurisdiction. Heck that sure displaces the claims of China and Vietnam. Especially China! They just claim they found some chinese pinggan in one of the islands, they then say it's chinese. The Philippines wants the case to be tried in the United Nations Court, but China and Vietnam won't accept the challenge. Maybe they just don't have enough english-speaking lawyers, they fear they just might bore the judge with their stuttering.


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post May 19 2006, 06:55 AM
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Maybe all the claimants can work out a peaceful way to share the islands then.
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post May 19 2006, 07:15 AM
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In my opinion the islands should be shared between Vietnam,China and the Phillipines since these 3 have the best claims for the islands and they are the only ones jointly agreeing to security of the islands.

The other claimants like Malaysia,Taiwan, Indonesia, Brunei should just let it go, since their claims are weak.
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post May 19 2006, 07:21 AM
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China's claims are weaker than any. China is just a bully out to get ASEAN nations. China's claims, I repeat, are based on ancient plates and saucers found on waters around the islands. Maaaaaaaaaaan, we also got ancient chinese plates and saucers in Japanese shores right? Why dont they try claiming Honshu island instead? It's bigger..
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post May 21 2006, 06:49 AM
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Those are UNinhabited islands while Honshu has millions of Japanese.
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post Jul 1 2006, 07:21 PM
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People Can Actually Walk Out To " Hoang Sa " From Land If The Sea Level Drops Low Enough ( Or Unusually High Level Of Sea Water Evaporation ) . _Continental Shelf _
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post Jul 21 2006, 05:57 PM
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QUOTE(kpham001 @ Jan 23 2006, 02:45 AM) [snapback]1481109[/snapback]

That is why Vietnam need to buit its navy with more destroyer and battleship instead of just a bunch of missle ships.


Vietnam's military expense is only 2.2 billion USD, it's only enough to buy one modernm destoryer. Do you expect Vietnam to spend all its military money on one destoryer? Vietnam is just too poor and have not enough money to modernized its army.
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post Jul 21 2006, 07:13 PM
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Simple solution= let USA station close to the island or persuade them to support Vietnam's claim.
--------> also make them follow Vietnamese environmental protection law code, etc after
so much trouble with USA's army stationing in the Phillipines.
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post Jul 22 2006, 12:01 PM
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QUOTE(W&N @ Jul 22 2006, 12:57 AM) [snapback]2076175[/snapback]

Vietnam's military expense is only 2.2 billion USD, it's only enough to buy one modernm destoryer. Do you expect Vietnam to spend all its military money on one destoryer? Vietnam is just too poor and have not enough money to modernized its army.


Vietnam is a oil exporting/producing country. Vietnam could start the UN's "Oil For Gun" program with the US. icon_twisted.gif Don't underestimate us. embarassedlaugh.gif
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post Jul 22 2006, 12:06 PM
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Something doesn't seem right here. Vietnam's national budget is $15 billions and $2.2 is spent on defense? confused.gif
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post Jul 22 2006, 12:20 PM
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QUOTE(landsknechts @ Jul 23 2006, 03:06 AM) [snapback]2078565[/snapback]

Something doesn't seem right here. Vietnam's national budget is $15 billions and $2.2 is spent on defense? confused.gif

In the last two years VietNam spent $1 billion on new military hardware.
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post Jul 22 2006, 01:00 PM
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Increased demand for energy in the future & Asia economic development must ensure Vietnam peaceful existence in South East Asia . Most likely Paracel & Spratly Islands disputes will become more international in the future .
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post Jul 29 2006, 06:23 PM
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No more wars in Vietnam please.

I want Vietnam to be friendly to every country and do business to every country.

In addition, my country, the USA, cannot afford to fight more wars.
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post Jul 31 2006, 04:47 PM
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QUOTE(SoCal @ Jul 29 2006, 04:23 PM) [snapback]2105154[/snapback]

No more wars in Vietnam please.

I want Vietnam to be friendly to every country and do business to every country.

In addition, my country, the USA, cannot afford to fight more wars.

Vietnam had somehow always been associated with images of war in the past , it must be the land of million smiles in the future .
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post Nov 16 2006, 04:56 AM
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QUOTE(LaniKai @ Jul 1 2006, 07:21 PM) [snapback]2009405[/snapback]

People Can Actually Walk Out To " Hoang Sa " From Land If The Sea Level Drops Low Enough ( Or Unusually High Level Of Sea Water Evaporation ) . _Continental Shelf _

People ? Chinese people ( tourists ) walk out to " Paracels Islands " from Hue , Da nang , Hoi an after visiting on land sights in Vietnam ? Saw some pictures of Paracels in Chinese forum , really pretty .

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post Nov 16 2006, 12:44 PM
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QUOTE(SoCal @ Jul 29 2006, 04:23 PM) [snapback]2105154[/snapback]

No more wars in Vietnam please.

I want Vietnam to be friendly to every country and do business to every country.

In addition, my country, the USA, cannot afford to fight more wars.



i think they can actually!
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post Nov 17 2006, 10:11 AM
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Vietnam is a friend to most countries. icon_smile.gif
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