Spratly Islands Rightfully Belongs to Vietnam |
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Spratly Islands Rightfully Belongs to Vietnam |
Apr 11 2006, 01:39 PM
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May 18 2006, 04:16 AM
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AF Geek Group: Members Posts: 109 Joined: 16-May 06 |
why dont we just divide the spratlys between malaysia philippines and vietnam, and leave none for china? we are all ASEAN anyway.
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May 18 2006, 08:53 PM
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AF Supreme Group: Members Posts: 12,713 Joined: 14-July 05 |
QUOTE(amritsaramritsar @ May 18 2006, 07:16 PM) [snapback]1861267[/snapback] why dont we just divide the spratlys between malaysia philippines and vietnam, and leave none for china? we are all ASEAN anyway. It belongs to VietNam and VietNam only. |
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May 19 2006, 02:26 AM
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AF Pro Group: Members Posts: 1,106 Joined: 20-April 06 From: Guangzhou |
QUOTE(amritsaramritsar @ May 18 2006, 04:16 AM) [snapback]1861267[/snapback] why dont we just divide the spratlys between malaysia philippines and vietnam, and leave none for china? we are all ASEAN anyway. QUOTE(amritsaramritsar @ May 18 2006, 03:12 AM) [snapback]1861126[/snapback] The Spratlys are obviously Philippine territory, because Philippine lawyers have argued time and time again that the nearest country to the Spratlys is the Philippines, and that the Spratlys sits on the Philippine Shelf. Just look at the map. Isn't it just obvious that the Spratlys are part of the Philippines? Now try including it in China's map, it just looks like some giant p3nis sticking out of its guts. It's obviously them trying to grab some tropical islands because it's too cold in China. Try including it in Vietnam's map. It doesn't look good either. The Philippines had presented their argument on the basis of UNCLOS (United Nations Convention on the Law of the Seas) that states that withing some distance from the border of the country, it still has some maritime jurisdiction. Heck that sure displaces the claims of China and Vietnam. Especially China! They just claim they found some chinese pinggan in one of the islands, they then say it's chinese. The Philippines wants the case to be tried in the United Nations Court, but China and Vietnam won't accept the challenge. Maybe they just don't have enough english-speaking lawyers, they fear they just might bore the judge with their stuttering. This post has been edited by mobi3232: May 19 2006, 02:27 AM |
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May 19 2006, 06:55 AM
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AF Pro Group: Members Posts: 2,741 Joined: 5-July 04 |
Maybe all the claimants can work out a peaceful way to share the islands then.
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May 19 2006, 07:15 AM
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AF Elite Group: Members Posts: 7,939 Joined: 18-January 04 From: Vietnam |
In my opinion the islands should be shared between Vietnam,China and the Phillipines since these 3 have the best claims for the islands and they are the only ones jointly agreeing to security of the islands.
The other claimants like Malaysia,Taiwan, Indonesia, Brunei should just let it go, since their claims are weak. |
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May 19 2006, 07:21 AM
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AF Geek Group: Members Posts: 109 Joined: 16-May 06 |
China's claims are weaker than any. China is just a bully out to get ASEAN nations. China's claims, I repeat, are based on ancient plates and saucers found on waters around the islands. Maaaaaaaaaaan, we also got ancient chinese plates and saucers in Japanese shores right? Why dont they try claiming Honshu island instead? It's bigger..
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May 21 2006, 06:49 AM
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AF Pro Group: Members Posts: 2,741 Joined: 5-July 04 |
Those are UNinhabited islands while Honshu has millions of Japanese.
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Jul 1 2006, 07:21 PM
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AF Pro Group: Members Posts: 1,074 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Kingdom of The GreatViets |
People Can Actually Walk Out To " Hoang Sa " From Land If The Sea Level Drops Low Enough ( Or Unusually High Level Of Sea Water Evaporation ) . _Continental Shelf _
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Jul 21 2006, 05:57 PM
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AF Addict Group: Members Posts: 816 Joined: 21-December 05 From: Qin |
QUOTE(kpham001 @ Jan 23 2006, 02:45 AM) [snapback]1481109[/snapback] That is why Vietnam need to buit its navy with more destroyer and battleship instead of just a bunch of missle ships. Vietnam's military expense is only 2.2 billion USD, it's only enough to buy one modernm destoryer. Do you expect Vietnam to spend all its military money on one destoryer? Vietnam is just too poor and have not enough money to modernized its army. |
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Jul 21 2006, 07:13 PM
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AF Pro Group: Members Posts: 1,733 Joined: 14-November 05 |
Simple solution= let USA station close to the island or persuade them to support Vietnam's claim.
--------> also make them follow Vietnamese environmental protection law code, etc after so much trouble with USA's army stationing in the Phillipines. |
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Jul 22 2006, 12:01 PM
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AF Pro Group: Members Posts: 1,445 Joined: 23-December 04 From: Yurp United |
QUOTE(W&N @ Jul 22 2006, 12:57 AM) [snapback]2076175[/snapback] Vietnam's military expense is only 2.2 billion USD, it's only enough to buy one modernm destoryer. Do you expect Vietnam to spend all its military money on one destoryer? Vietnam is just too poor and have not enough money to modernized its army. Vietnam is a oil exporting/producing country. Vietnam could start the UN's "Oil For Gun" program with the US. |
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Jul 22 2006, 12:06 PM
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AF Pro Group: Members Posts: 2,651 Joined: 14-August 05 |
Something doesn't seem right here. Vietnam's national budget is $15 billions and $2.2 is spent on defense?
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Jul 22 2006, 12:20 PM
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AF Supreme Group: Members Posts: 12,713 Joined: 14-July 05 |
QUOTE(landsknechts @ Jul 23 2006, 03:06 AM) [snapback]2078565[/snapback] Something doesn't seem right here. Vietnam's national budget is $15 billions and $2.2 is spent on defense? In the last two years VietNam spent $1 billion on new military hardware. |
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Jul 22 2006, 01:00 PM
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AF Pro Group: Members Posts: 1,074 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Kingdom of The GreatViets |
Increased demand for energy in the future & Asia economic development must ensure Vietnam peaceful existence in South East Asia . Most likely Paracel & Spratly Islands disputes will become more international in the future .
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Jul 29 2006, 06:23 PM
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AF Supreme Group: Bronze AF Subscriber Posts: 15,889 Joined: 23-July 06 |
No more wars in Vietnam please.
I want Vietnam to be friendly to every country and do business to every country. In addition, my country, the USA, cannot afford to fight more wars. |
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Jul 31 2006, 04:47 PM
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AF Pro Group: Members Posts: 1,074 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Kingdom of The GreatViets |
QUOTE(SoCal @ Jul 29 2006, 04:23 PM) [snapback]2105154[/snapback] No more wars in Vietnam please. I want Vietnam to be friendly to every country and do business to every country. In addition, my country, the USA, cannot afford to fight more wars. Vietnam had somehow always been associated with images of war in the past , it must be the land of million smiles in the future . |
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Nov 16 2006, 04:56 AM
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AF Fan Group: Members Posts: 63 Joined: 6-November 06 |
QUOTE(LaniKai @ Jul 1 2006, 07:21 PM) [snapback]2009405[/snapback] People Can Actually Walk Out To " Hoang Sa " From Land If The Sea Level Drops Low Enough ( Or Unusually High Level Of Sea Water Evaporation ) . _Continental Shelf _ People ? Chinese people ( tourists ) walk out to " Paracels Islands " from Hue , Da nang , Hoi an after visiting on land sights in Vietnam ? Saw some pictures of Paracels in Chinese forum , really pretty . |
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Nov 16 2006, 12:44 PM
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QUOTE(SoCal @ Jul 29 2006, 04:23 PM) [snapback]2105154[/snapback] No more wars in Vietnam please. I want Vietnam to be friendly to every country and do business to every country. In addition, my country, the USA, cannot afford to fight more wars. i think they can actually! |
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Nov 17 2006, 10:11 AM
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AF Supreme Group: Bronze AF Subscriber Posts: 15,889 Joined: 23-July 06 |
Vietnam is a friend to most countries.
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