Did Holocaust Actually Happen Options

[situmorang87]

It did happen. How about this:

Soul Searching With A Survivor - An Interview With Alice Lok Cahana

I discovered the children's poems from Terezin. They were so positive and totally void of hatred. I understood why we Jews were called the People of the Books. Mothers told their children in Terezin write a poem; don't curse man or God; write a poem. And the poems were found after liberation. A tremendous goodness, like hot lava flowed from these poems. Children wrote: "Don't Hate." This is their message. This is the message from the Shoah.

Poems of Jew's Children in Terezin

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Jew Women before execution. Some of them were carrying their children.

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Lonely Cries
The pain
the sorrow
The endless cries
The scattered dreams
I think to myself
When will it end?
Everyday the same
Shots from the soldiers
Another lonely cry
Another death

Gemma Lechlinski

[situmorang87]

Holocaust Denial in Iran
Source: Holocaust Fact of Fiction? -Stephane Downing

The denial of Holocaust is actually new in Middle East, as what Kenneth Jacobson said, the director of national assistant of Anti-Defamation League, in an interview with Haaretz: "Adopting the theories of Holocaust denial from westerners is a new phenomenom in Moslem world. The acceptable response is: if it's true that holocaust truly hapened, the Palestinian must not responsible about it. The statements from President of Iran, Mahmoud Admadinejad shows how he has mixed two penetration."


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Speaking on December 2005, Ahmadinejad said Holocaust was just a myth which has been promoted to protect Israel, making it easy for its retoric and fast new step in the world.

He said:

"They have invented a myth that Jews were massacred and place this above God, religions and the prophets,"

"The West has given more significance to the myth of the genocide of the Jews, even more significant than God, religion, and the prophets," he said. "(It) deals very severely with those who deny this myth but does not do anything to those who deny God, religion, and the prophet."

He also asked Israel to be moved to Germany or Austria with his argument that those couries have persecuted the Jew and they were responsible about it; not Palestine that must sacrifice their land regarding the forming process of Israel. (To all who denies the truth of Holocause, don't you see the contradiction between his statements).

He also suggested the Jews to be moved to the United States.

Those statment have made international controversy among the goverment officers in Israel, Europe, and America. Later on, six political parties in Germany signed a resolution to curse the denial of Holocaust.

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Even the Iranis defy the conferece of Holocaust Denial.

Hamas political leader, Khaled Mashaal said that Ahmadinejad's comments were 'brave' and that "the Moslems would fight for Iran because it'd helped them in expressing their minds; especially the Palestinians."

On 24 April 2006, Ahmadinejad commanded a free evaluation to find out the truth about Holocaust.

On 30 May 2006, in an interview with Der Spiegel, Ahmadinejad once again asked about Holocaust several times. He didn't changed with his perception that there were 'two opinion' about it. When he was asked several times if Holocaust was a myth , he responded, "I won't accept something as a truth if I'm not truly sure about it." (another ridiculous statement since he talked with all confidence before)

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[jrockerz]

It did happened. It is vey sad that 6 million have died evne though they didn't do nothing wrong. Now we need to be more aware of that kind of evil thing to not occur again in the time to come.

6 million is quite exaggerated.
there was multicultural ethnic was a victim of german war.



and yes,
human genocide is still happened.

open your eyes, breda.
do research

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[situmorang87]

So reasonable that the Holocaust is truly hapened. I think we all know the relationship between Nazi and Arab world along the persecution toward the Jews.

They hated Jews, they hate Jews, and they will hate Jews forever.
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Amin Al Husseini, in a poster when Nazi recruited Moslems to join Hitler fighting against the West and Jews. His faithful studets are Yasser Arafat, Saddam Hussein, and Hamas leaders, Al Qaeda, including Islamic Jihad.

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HAJI AMIN AL-HUSEINI, Grand Mufti Jerusalem, an anti-Semitik totally from hair to toe, lived in Berlin along the yers of Holocaust.

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Walid SHoebat, Palestinian ex muslim and former terrorist, speaks out about Hitler & Haji AMin al Huseini

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[jrockerz]

Hitler’s Jew Soldier’s Photos

by Bryan Mark Rigg, PhD.

7/01/05

Pictures from Bryan’s book, Hitler’s Jewish Soldiers: The Untold Story of Nazi Racial Laws and Men of Jewish Descent in the German Military


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Side and front photographs of “half-Jew” Anton Mayer, similar to those that often accompanied a Mischling’s application for exemption.


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Military service book of “half-Jew” Hermann Aub


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“Half-Jew” Horst Geitner was awarded both the Iron Cross Second Class and the Silver Wound Badge.


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This photo of “half-Jew” Werner Goldberg, who was blond and blue-eyed, was used by a Nazi propaganda newspaper for its title page. Its caption: “The Ideal German Soldier.”


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“Half-Jew” Commander Paul Ascher, Admiral Lütjens’s first staff officer on the battleship Bismarck; Ascher received Hitler’s Deutschblütigkeitserklärung. (Military awards: EKI, EKII, and War Service Cross Second Class.)


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“Quarter-Jew” Admiral Bernhard Rogge wearing the Ritterkreuz; he received Hitler’s Deutschblütigkeitserklärung. (Military awards: oak leaves to Ritterkreuz, Ritterkreuz, samurai sword from the emperor of Japan, EKI, and EKII.)

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“Half-Jew” Johannes Zukertort (last rank general) received Hitler’s Deutschblütigkeitserklärung.

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“Half-Jew” Colonel Walter H. Hollaender, decorated with the Ritterkreuz and German-Cross in Gold; he received Hitler’s Deutschblütigkeitserklärung. (Military awards: Ritterkreuz, German-Cross in Gold, EKI, EKII, and Close Combat Badge.)

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“Half-Jew” and later Luftwaffe General Helmut Wilberg; Hitler declared him Aryan in 1935. (Military awards: Hohenzollern’s Knight’s Cross with Swords, EKI, EKII.)

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“Half-Jew” and field-marshal Erhard Milch (left) with General Wolfram von Richthofen. Hitler declared Milch Aryan. He was awarded the Ritterkreuz for his performance during the campaign in Norway in 1940.

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General Gotthard Heinrici, who was married to a “half-Jew,” meeting Hitler in 1937.

[jrockerz]

Exhibition honors Muslims who saved Jews from Nazi persecution


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[Mua]

the real purpose of Holocaust revisionism is to make National Socialism an acceptable political alternative again and more recently used by many anti-Zionist Islamic groups and individuals to take away any credibility or sympathies from Jews and Israelis.

[Jagger]

So reasonable that the Holocaust is truly hapened. I think we all know the relationship between Nazi and Arab world along the persecution toward the Jews.

They hated Jews, they hate Jews, and they will hate Jews forever.

Arabs have been living peacefully with Jews for more than a thousand years. There were instances of Jewish persecution in Islamic Spain and North Africa, but these incidents were very rare in comparison to the numerous anti-Jewish persecutions in Christian Europe and the Crusader states (and later Nazi Germany).

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[mndeg]

when i was taking eng 103 about 2-3 years ago we had to write a paper, and the teacher gave us a list of example controversial topics to write about and one of them was holocaust denial along with the obvious such as abortion, gun control, etc

In a September 2006 with NBC Nightly News Anchor Brian Williams, Ahmadinejad clarified his remarks, saying that when he called the Holocaust a myth he was merely trying to communicate that it was not just Jews that died, but millions of people and he wants to know why it is the Palestinian people that have to pay for the Nazis' slaughter of the Jewish people.[93]

In the second World War, over 60 million people lost their lives. They were all human beings. Why is it that only a select group of those who were killed have become so prominent and important? Do you think that the 60 million who lost their lives were all at the result of warfare alone? There were two million that were part of the military at the time, perhaps altogether, 50 million civilians with no roles in the war — Christians, Muslims. They were all killed. The second and more important question that I raised was, if this event happened, and if it is a historical event, then we should allow everyone to research it and study it. The more research and studies are done, the more we can become aware of the realities that happened. We still leave open to further studies absolute knowledge of science or math. Historical events are always subject to revisions, and reviews and studies. We're still revising our thoughts about what happened over thousands of years ago. Why is it that those who ask questions are persecuted? Why is every word so sensitivity or such prohibition on further studies on the subject? Where as we can openly question God, the prophet, concepts such as freedom and democracy? And the third question that I raised in this regard: if this happened, where did it happen? Did the Palestinian people have anything to do with it? Why should the Palestinians pay for it now? Five million displaced Palestinian people is what I'm talking about. Over 60 years of living under threat. Losing the lives of thousands of dear ones. And homes that are destroyed on a daily basis over people's heads. You might argue that the Jews have the right to have a government. We're not against that. But where? At a place where their people were — several people will vote for them, and where they can govern.

Criticism of Ahmadinejad's comments denying the Holocaust and calling for Israel to be "wiped off the map" has come from the U.S. Senate, which passed a unanimous resolution condemning his "harmful, destructive, and anti-semitic statements." Identification of Ahmadinejad with anti-semitism has come from a variety of sources.[98][99][100]

The Iranian government has responded that "the Western media empire is trying to portray Iran as an anti-semitic country"[101] and alternate translations have been cited to contradict the accusations.[citation needed] Currently, 40,000 Jews live in Iran and have representation in the Iranian parliament in the form of a Jewish MP, Maurice Mohtamed. Their treatment is a matter of great debate, some stating that the Jews are treated better than other religious minorities in Iran.[102]

In addition Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has stated that "Jews are respected by everyone, by all human beings ... some people think if they accuse me of being anti-Jew they can solve the problem. No, I am not anti-Jew ... I respect them very much ... We love everyone in the world — Jews, Christians, Muslims, non-Muslims, non-Jews, non-Christians".[103]

love the american media spin machine. he dislikes zionists, he isn't a racist. look at it from his point of view. jewish people just showed up in arab lands and claimed their land, then they went on the offensive to ATTACK less successful countries. it's been going on for decades now. that type of behavior is unacceptable.

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[HalfAryan]

Hitler didn't want WWII for Germany but it was something predestined by providence to happen so that Hitler could defeat the ruthless jew bolsheviks who were aiming to enslave the planet earth so that he would go down forever as human history's third savior following Noah and Jesus. Think of all the horrible victimization that jews performed upon Germans throughout the 20th century and then triple it if not the bold and courageous activities of the brave Hitler who stood up to their treachery.

The international jews who have controlled world finance and world media for centuries couldn't allow the lone genius Adolf Hitler use Germany to demonstrate to the whole world just how to get along without jews so they used all of their financial and political power to throw the nations of the world into a war of unparallelled gruesomeness in order to protect and preserve their age-old dominion over the planet earth.

All the jews ever did in those internment camps was put on plays for each other and make up lies about the germans that they used to slander them after the war. Jews didn't even have to work that hard until a great many started becoming ardent homosexuals so the germans thought that maybe hard work might cure them of their perversions. There was never any torture in any of those camps and there wasn't a single person who was ever gassed or burned as there is no evidence.

[Mua]

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thats some fu-ked up horror-story. you have to be pretty twisted to come up with that kind of stuff.

[HalfAryan]

Mick Jagger holds the unofficial celebrity record for having watched Leni Riefenstahl's 'Triumph of the Will' adolf hitler documentary all the way thru more than 80 times. Jagger is only one of the many celebrities fascinated by Hitler and the movement he created from scratch to save Germany from the ruthless jew bolsheviks. I personally prefer Anthony Hopkins' portrayal of Hitler over all others and odds are Hopkins was left with tremendous admiration for Hitler also as would anyone who came to know the true story.

The jews perpetuate this holocaust rubbish to gain sympathy from the ignorant & promote their agenda of jewish supremacy. Not a single holocaust survivor has been able to pass a polygraph examine when interrogated concerning "alleged" atrocities at the concentration camps. Auschwitz-Birkenau was routinely visited/inspected by the International Red Cross & was operated within the guidelines of the Geneva Convention. Jews were provided with food, shelter, clothing, & medical care.

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[Mua]

^
ok and whats your excuse for the slavs?

[avisitor]

There will always be those that refuse to believe ...
And, so the saying goes "Those who don't learn from history are Doomed to repeat it."
Did the Holocaust actually happen?
Does it have to? ... in order for you to learn anything from the past?
Do You want to make such atrocities just so the history books will be correct?
You want to prove Jews are liars and Nazis are really a nice bunch of guys?
Let the hatred go ... Go find yourself a true love and screw your brains out instead.
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[Jagger]

when i was taking eng 103 about 2-3 years ago we had to write a paper, and the teacher gave us a list of example controversial topics to write about and one of them was holocaust denial along with the obvious such as abortion, gun control, etc

love the american media spin machine. he dislikes zionists, he isn't a racist. look at it from his point of view. jewish people just showed up in arab lands and claimed their land, then they went on the offensive to ATTACK less successful countries. it's been going on for decades now. that type of behavior is unacceptable.

That whole "wipe Israel off the map" fiasco was also a load of bull. There's obviously been a lot of (intentional) mistranslation going on.

Mick Jagger holds the unofficial celebrity record for having watched Leni Riefenstahl's 'Triumph of the Will' adolf hitler documentary all the way thru more than 80 times. Jagger is only one of the many celebrities fascinated by Hitler and the movement he created from scratch to save Germany from the ruthless jew bolsheviks. I personally prefer Anthony Hopkins' portrayal of Hitler over all others and odds are Hopkins was left with tremendous admiration for Hitler also as would anyone who came to know the true story.

The jews perpetuate this holocaust rubbish to gain sympathy from the ignorant & promote their agenda of jewish supremacy. Not a single holocaust survivor has been able to pass a polygraph examine when interrogated concerning "alleged" atrocities at the concentration camps. Auschwitz-Birkenau was routinely visited/inspected by the International Red Cross & was operated within the guidelines of the Geneva Convention. Jews were provided with food, shelter, clothing, & medical care.

I had no idea my coincidental namesake was such a big fan of Hitler, which leaves me no choice but to... Heil Hitler!

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[Mona]

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[higginm]

The only people that seem to deny the holocaust are those with some sort of motive, Nazi's and right wing extreme Muslims.

I can understand why Muslims are piss$d off with Iraq, Palestine and other western meddling in the region, but for a few of them to deny the Holocaust is a very unconstructive use of their anger.

[SkyLegenD]

Uh.. just like to tell everyone here that you can't be "half-jew". Being Jewish is like being Christian, Muslim, or Buddhist. It's either you are or you're not.

[ThePunisher]

To say that it didnt happen at all is not fair,but to say that 6 million jews were killed is a big fat lie.
Ive been in touch with jews for along time now,through thier media,websites,and even geographicaly and if there is something i learnt form all of this experience os that
jews just love to exaggerate alot.These ppl are pro's in exaggerating and making themselves "Victims".

but u know eventhough i and my ppl suffered and still do alot cuz of them,i do admire thier twisted ways in getting support and aknowlodge from other's.
The problem is we the palestinians are realy simple minded.im an open person,my ppl cant stand me for some of my opinions but anyway my ppl act in a simple,fool,straight way
cuz they are the owner of the land,they are the owner of the write to exist here,so they dont feel any need to play games and manouver like the jews do.
time changed,and such simple mentality does not work these days

[higginm]

to say that 6 million jews were killed is a big fat lie.

I don't like what happened in Palestine.

I think though the figure of 6 million Jews killed is not a lie.

In Poland alone there were 3.5 million Jews before WW2.

After WW2 (1945 - 1946) there were a couple of hundred thousand Jews left in Poland.

If they weren't killed where did they all go?

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