Indonesia and Philippines, potential positive stories in 2006 Options

[Najjiah]

err.. I don't think so.. I think the opposite is true..

Today, your president Arroyo declared state of emergency due to elements of your military plotting with communist rebels to overthrow the Filipino government.

Emergency declared in Philippines

Filipino Economy in Crisis

Anyways, I wish Philippines all the best in the future. It is not sensible for Southeast Asian countries to fight each other. It is especially ridicilous that some Filipino forummers here try to insult and belittle Indonesia which has always been a good friend of Philippines. Instead of being so unjustifiably arrogant, let's just get along.

About the currency "battle", the rupiah strengthened by 7% so far this year, making it Asia's best performing currency.

Here's an unbiased source (Reuters Singapore) to confirm this claim:
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/060210/3/3ym0t.html

thank you. aaah.... the sweet sound of the voice of reason.

[Felipal]

If it ever looked like I was insulting or belittling Indonesia and it's people, then I'm sorry but those weren't my intentions. I was just debating the strengths/weaknesses of Indonesia and the PI which has nothing to do with hating Indonesia or it's people. Although I honestly can't say I've met very many Indonesian people here in America, because I don't think there are that many, the few that I have met and come to know I have much respect for, like my Indonesian roomate in college for 3 years for example. Anyways, it's very true that both countries already have their fair share of numerous problems to deal with without complicating matters further by fighting. Unity and peace through knowledge, understanding and respect for one another's countries is the preferrable route to take rather than ignorance and hatred which accomplishes nothing. And coincidentally, both Indonesia and the Philippines still have a whole lot to accomplish. I have read many sources that have said the Philippines and Indonesia have the greatest overall potential across the spectrum among the countries in SEA. I'm certain our two countries won't be able to unleash that potential by fighting and hating one another.

[Bohemian]

If it ever looked like I was insulting or belittling Indonesia and it's people, then I'm sorry but those weren't my intentions. I was just debating the strengths/weaknesses of Indonesia and the PI which has nothing to do with hating Indonesia or it's people. Although I honestly can't say I've met very many Indonesian people here in America, because I don't think there are that many, the few that I have met and come to know I have much respect for, like my Indonesian roomate in college for 3 years for example. Anyways, it's very true that both countries already have their fair share of numerous problems to deal with without complicating matters further by fighting. Unity and peace through knowledge, understanding and respect for one another's countries is the preferrable route to take rather than ignorance and hatred which accomplishes nothing. And coincidentally, both Indonesia and the Philippines still have a whole lot to accomplish. I have read many sources that have said the Philippines and Indonesia have the greatest overall potential across the spectrum among the countries in SEA. I'm certain our two countries won't be able to unleash that potential by fighting and hating one another.

Yes, I think that's the right attitude. Honestly, fights and/or wars between our countries would be the LAST thing I'd prefer. My WIFE is a FILIPINA!!

[purnomor]

[quote=Kokol,Feb 24 2006, 10:37 AM]
Emergency declared in Philippines

Filipino Economy in Crisis
About the currency "battle", the rupiah strengthened by 7% so far this year, making it Asia's best performing currency.

Here's an unbiased source (Reuters Singapore) to confirm this claim:
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/060210/3/3ym0t.html

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It may be the best performing but........Not strongest
It doesnt really matter Indonesa and PI should help each other not put each other down

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Best-performing currency means the strongest currency.

Don't worry, Indonesians never put Philippines down because Indonesians generally don't really know or care much about our northern neighbour.

[Kokol]

[quote=purnomor,Feb 28 2006, 08:24 AM]
It may be the best performing but........Not strongest
It doesnt really matter Indonesa and PI should help each other not put each other down

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Don't worry, Indonesians never put Philippines down because Indonesians generally don't really know or care much about our northern neighbour.

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As if we care about our southern neighbors... Actually......We do care, because your government is paying southern Philippine terrorists so it is all of your muslim and islamic gov ideas that Philippines has to fight against

[SingASong]

Seriously who gives a f-ck about those suicide bombing jihadis to the south.
I personally don't give a f-ck about Indonesia. Just stay away from the Philippines, and keep your filthy JI in your own country.

[purnomor]

Don't worry, Indonesians never put Philippines down because Indonesians generally don't really know or care much about our northern neighbour.

As if we care about our southern neighbors... Actually......We do care, because your government is paying southern Philippine terrorists so it is all of your muslim and islamic gov ideas that Philippines has to fight against

LOL you are so insecure

Actually I was trying to soothe your unreasonable worry that Indonesia is "putting Philippines down". Actually we never do that because we generally don't know much about your country, hence we don't have much opinion about it.

On the other hand, seems like you like putting down your neighbours to cover-up your own insecurities and out of sheer delusional arrogance.

BTW actually the Muslim separatist problems arose bcoz your govt massacred lots of Muslims in 1970s and confiscate their lands to be given to Christian settlers. The jihadists got help from Malaysia, as a payback for Marcos's plan to invade Malaysian state of Sabah.

On the other hand, Indonesia was actually kind enough to promote peace between Philippine govt and MNLF in Jakarta Accords of 1996, for which your president Ramos thanked us a lot.

Too bad the Filipino govt broke so many clauses of the peace treaty so a new rebellion arose under the MILF, which still continues till today.

So, to blame Indonesia for the your southern separatism problem is not only a display of complete ignorance, but also quite a disgraceful utter ingratitude.

@SingASong:

On terrorism, the whole world know terrorist training camps are located on the large swathes of Mindanao Island where Philippine govt has lost territorial control to Muslim separatists. In fact, the Bali bomber were all trained in Mindanao, get their explosives from there, and some of the bombers managed to escape from Indonesia and are now hiding in Mindanao!

Not to mention the many Indonesian fishermen who've been kidnapped for ransom in lawless parts of Southern Philippines! Please get your house in order!

This post has been edited by purnomor: Mar 1 2006, 04:35 PM

[halohalo]

LOL you are so insecure

Actually I was trying to soothe your unreasonable worry that Indonesia is "putting Philippines down". Actually we never do that because we generally don't know much about your country, hence we don't have much opinion about it.

On the other hand, seems like you like putting down your neighbours to cover-up your own insecurities and out of sheer delusional arrogance.

BTW actually the Muslim separatist problems arose bcoz your govt massacred lots of Muslims in 1970s and confiscate their lands to be given to Christian settlers. The jihadists got help from Malaysia, as a payback for Marcos's plan to invade Malaysian state of Sabah.

On the other hand, Indonesia was actually kind enough to promote peace between Philippine govt and MNLF in Jakarta Accords of 1996, for which your president Ramos thanked us a lot.

Too bad the Filipino govt broke so many clauses of the peace treaty so a new rebellion arose under the MILF, which still continues till today.

So, to blame Indonesia for the your southern separatism problem is not only a display of complete ignorance, but also quite a disgraceful utter ingratitude.

Whatever dude, how funny, ur laughing at us filos. So, u actually think ur better than us? Rite...ur delusional!

[The Red Baron]

LOL you are so insecure

Actually I was trying to soothe your unreasonable worry that Indonesia is "putting Philippines down". Actually we never do that because we generally don't know much about your country, hence we don't have much opinion about it.

On the other hand, seems like you like putting down your neighbours to cover-up your own insecurities and out of sheer delusional arrogance.

BTW actually the Muslim separatist problems arose bcoz your govt massacred lots of Muslims in 1970s and confiscate their lands to be given to Christian settlers. The jihadists got help from Malaysia, as a payback for Marcos's plan to invade Malaysian state of Sabah.

On the other hand, Indonesia was actually kind enough to promote peace between Philippine govt and MNLF in Jakarta Accords of 1996, for which your president Ramos thanked us a lot.

Too bad the Filipino govt broke so many clauses of the peace treaty so a new rebellion arose under the MILF, which still continues till today.

So, to blame Indonesia for the your southern separatism problem is not only a display of complete ignorance, but also quite a disgraceful utter ingratitude.

what? we christian settlers in mindanao occupied unclaimed lands...
if land grab actually exist becuase of settlers from visayas then the lumads
must be the one complaining and not the moros...

[purnomor]

Whatever dude, how funny, ur laughing at us filos. So, u actually think ur better than us? Rite...ur delusional!

Relax, halohalo. I'm merely laughing at kokol's overreaction. The Filipinos I know are OK people and Lechon de Leche is tasty

[Bohemian]

Relax, halohalo. I'm merely laughing at kokol's overreaction. The Filipinos I know are OK people and Lechon de Leche is tasty

Have you ever tried the lechon? Or sisig?

[Kokol]

Relax, halohalo. I'm merely laughing at kokol's overreaction. The Filipinos I know are OK people and Lechon de Leche is tasty

ummmm.......truth hurts?


Lol jk 2 I've always wanted to say that "Islam is the reason the earth sux" Lol I know Indonesia and Malaysia are against terrorism.....Did you know that it was the United States who created terrorist group Abu Sayyef....GGGGRRRRRRRR........Oh well maybe Indonesia should actually help Philippines..... And by the way Sabah is originally a Philippines territory......

Go PI and Indonesia


oh wait......GO ASEAN

[jason76]

Hello from indochat!!!

[rox]

i dont think so. indonesia as a country is so much more economically stable than the philippines. ranking ng pilipinas ang bangladesh in terms of poverty.

for real. indonesia is more together as a nation than 'pinas.

i don't agree on u as well....
have a look at this
Richest Countries in Asia
Rank Country GDP - per capita
1 Japan $ 28,200
2 Singapore $ 23,700
3 Brunei $ 18,600
4 Korea, South $ 17,800
5 Palau $ 9,000
6 Malaysia $ 9,000
7 Thailand $ 7,400
8 Turkey $ 6,700
9 Kazakhstan $ 6,300
10 Turkmenistan $ 5,800
11 China $ 5,000
12 Philippines $ 4,600
13 Maldives $ 3,900
14 Sri Lanka $ 3,700
15 Armenia $ 3,500
16 Azerbaijan $ 3,400
17 Indonesia $ 3,200
18 India $ 2,900
19 Vietnam $ 2,500
20 Papua New Guinea $ 2,200

and have a go on this site
http://www.aneki.com/asia_richest.html

This post has been edited by rox: Mar 3 2006, 07:51 AM

[Heran]

LOL you are so insecure

Actually I was trying to soothe your unreasonable worry that Indonesia is "putting Philippines down". Actually we never do that because we generally don't know much about your country, hence we don't have much opinion about it.

On the other hand, seems like you like putting down your neighbours to cover-up your own insecurities and out of sheer delusional arrogance.

BTW actually the Muslim separatist problems arose bcoz your govt massacred lots of Muslims in 1970s and confiscate their lands to be given to Christian settlers. The jihadists got help from Malaysia, as a payback for Marcos's plan to invade Malaysian state of Sabah.

On the other hand, Indonesia was actually kind enough to promote peace between Philippine govt and MNLF in Jakarta Accords of 1996, for which your president Ramos thanked us a lot.

Too bad the Filipino govt broke so many clauses of the peace treaty so a new rebellion arose under the MILF, which still continues till today.

So, to blame Indonesia for the your southern separatism problem is not only a display of complete ignorance, but also quite a disgraceful utter ingratitude.

@SingASong:

On terrorism, the whole world know terrorist training camps are located on the large swathes of Mindanao Island where Philippine govt has lost territorial control to Muslim separatists. In fact, the Bali bomber were all trained in Mindanao, get their explosives from there, and some of the bombers managed to escape from Indonesia and are now hiding in Mindanao!

Not to mention the many Indonesian fishermen who've been kidnapped for ransom in lawless parts of Southern Philippines! Please get your house in order!

We would be getting our house in order, if your Terrorist country wasn't funding terorrist operations in Southern Philippines. And flooding the Philipines with illegal terrorists.

[Kanlungan]

So hot in here... phew...

Got lots of Indos in my Uni.. I'm gonna report purno to them. LOL

[purnomor]

We would be getting our house in order, if your Terrorist country wasn't funding terorrist operations in Southern Philippines. And flooding the Philipines with illegal terrorists.

These terrorists are on the run from Indonesian authorities, hence they decided to flee to Southern Philippines cuz it is so safe there for Muslim terrorists, particularly since the Philippine govt has lost control of large parts of Mindanao to Muslim separatist groups such as MILF, MNLF, and Abu Sayyaf, who basically already established a de facto independent state there.

Terrorist wage jihad from Filipino hideout

Prove that Indonesia "funded" terrorist operations in Philippines. I think it is Arab countries and even Osama bin Laden who are funding these people.

Again, Indonesian govt has actually been nice enough to help you guys out in the matter of South Philippines. Indonesian govt mediated between the MNLF and Philippine govt to settle their differences, culminating in Jakarta Accord of 1996 and we even send a few hundred Indonesian soldiers to Mindanao to monitor the peace deal. Too bad, Filipino govt decided to broke so many clauses of the deal so a new rebellion broke out under the MILF, which still goes on till now.

So, stop being such ingrates, and stop blaming other countries for your own self-created problems that arose out of your own blunders

This post has been edited by purnomor: Mar 4 2006, 12:14 AM

[RL33]

What a stupid comparison 2 Indonesia is gigantic country and philippines is probobly just a quarter of its size.

[Kanlungan]

it seems that purno loves attacking other countries.

[purnomor]

it seems that purno loves attacking other countries.

Relax kanlungan

Indonesians and Ino govt is a good friend of Philippines.

Unfortunately, some Filipino forummers here is laughably insisting that they are superior over Indonesians. Even more hilarious, maybe out of ignorance, they blame Indonesia for your self-created Muslim separatist and terrorism problem.

It is not good if such falsehoods are left unanswered. Hence, I am correcting these errors while clarifying the reality for the benefit of all.

This post has been edited by purnomor: Mar 4 2006, 11:58 PM