kings of the kingdom Options

[AEROFORCE1]

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Ofcause it not d part that he attack Khmer (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/embarassedlaugh.gif)

[Nikkie_nid]

What a relief??? i know his history... He fighted to save Thai from Burmese takeover and he also destroyed our main city at that time. I mean, he was good with Armies.

[PervertBurger]

Can someone elaborate more on Ramathibodi I? I heard he was really an ethnic Chinese?

[yokie]

Can someone elaborate more on Ramathibodi I? I heard he was really an ethnic Chinese?

dude, king Ramathibodi I hasn't been mentioned even once anywhere in this tread, how can we elaborate any fact about him for you? King ramathibodi I was the first king of the Ayutthaya kingdom. But we have been talking about king Taksin and his successor king Rama I; they were born approximately 400 years apart from king Ramathibodi I. This tells me how much you know about Thai history. Please do some serious study before asking any question next time.

This post has been edited by yokie: Mar 15 2006, 01:30 AM

[Sirikittong]

Im still waiting for your response, Yokie.

@PB. King Ramatibodi I was known as U-thong before he ascended the throne of Ayuthaya; he was the first Deva Raja of Ayuthaya. And yes he was of ethnic chinese background and is said to have been related to Khun Borom; he was from Chiang Saen or present day Chiang Rai province in northern Thailand.

This post has been edited by Sirikittong: Mar 15 2006, 01:42 AM

[yokie]

I personally dont think King Taksin went mad, when I discussed this with my father and my grandfather and my uncles, they establish that King Taksin was unbearable to rule in the throne; he was too militant; no doubt a military genious, but if he had been allowed to rule, he would have plummetted Siam into a collision course with Britain or France, such as an example of Burmese fall to Britain and Vietnamese fall to France. Taksin's military-esque attitude and governance would have only alieneted the people within the realm into rebellion. King Rama I the Great was a great king in that he calibrated his kingdom and his successors legitimized the Chakri Dynasty with beautific buddhist occasions, temple building, public projects, military growth as well as economic and cultural growth.

Stability was needed, and Taksin, albet a great general, did not have that quality.

As what Jia stated, his removal was necessary and quite frankly it was common in that time to execute a deposed monarch.

Cheers.
Mai pben rai! Anytime my irish friend. (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

กบฏนะครับ ถ้าคุณคิดว่าพระเจ้าตากสินไม่ได้เป็นบ้าจริง แต่คุณยังต้องการให้ท่านออกจากการดำรงตำแหน่งประมุขของประเทศนี่ เท่ากับว่าคุณเป็นกบฎนะครับที่ต้องการจะปกครองประเทศเอง และที่คุณบอกว่าท่านมีหัวคิดทางการทหารมากเกินไปจึงไม่เหมาะสมที่จะมาเป็นประมุขของประเทศเพราะยังไงเราก็สู้ประเทศทางตะวันตกในเรื่องทหารไม่ได้ นี่ผมก็ไม่เห็นด้วยนะ เพราะทหารสมัยก่อนเขาก็ไม่ได้โง่ เวลาสู้ไม่ได้เขาก็ถ่อยทัพหรือหลีกเลี่ยงการทำศึกสงครามไปเลย ไม่ใช่ว่าข้าเป็นทหารแล้วจะต้องสู้กันให้ตายไปฟรีๆ และถ้าเขาไม่เก่งจริงคงไม่ตีหัวเมืองกลับมาได้หมดหรอก

อย่าโมโหผมเลยนะ ผมก็มาแค่แลกเปลี่ยนความคิดเห็นกับคุณ (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_neutral.gif)

This post has been edited by yokie: Mar 15 2006, 02:26 AM

[AnAttA]

King Taksin story has taught thai people many things. A commoner of chinese father and thai mother fought hard to kick the enemy out, united his country and moved it forward.

A lot of people should learn from him.

[PervertBurger]

Im still waiting for your response, Yokie.

@PB. King Ramatibodi I was known as U-thong before he ascended the throne of Ayuthaya; he was the first Deva Raja of Ayuthaya. And yes he was of ethnic chinese background and is said to have been related to Khun Borom; he was from Chiang Saen or present day Chiang Rai province in northern Thailand.

Hey thanks Siri (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
So does that mean Chinese were in the region before Thais?

[Sirikittong]

No. He was just a chinese ethnic, who came from a merchant family based in what was then Chiang Saen

[corky]

I personally dont think King Taksin went mad, when I discussed this with my father and my grandfather and my uncles, they establish that King Taksin was unbearable to rule in the throne; he was too militant; no doubt a military genious, but if he had been allowed to rule, he would have plummetted Siam into a collision course with Britain or France, such as an example of Burmese fall to Britain and Vietnamese fall to France. Taksin's military-esque attitude and governance would have only alieneted the people within the realm into rebellion. King Rama I the Great was a great king in that he calibrated his kingdom and his successors legitimized the Chakri Dynasty with beautific buddhist occasions, temple building, public projects, military growth as well as economic and cultural growth.

Stability was needed, and Taksin, albet a great general, did not have that quality.

As what Jia stated, his removal was necessary and quite frankly it was common in that time to execute a deposed monarch.

Cheers.
Mai pben rai! Anytime my irish friend. (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

kop khun maak krup Sirri. dtawn nee khun yuu tii ameriga ru muang thai? pra waa pom kit waa khun ja sonjai yuu tii nee dtawn nee pra waa mee kon wun wai samlap kun thaksin.......

[North Pole]

พระเจ้าตากสินเป็นบุคคลที่เสียสละ ยอมให้ลูกหลานคิดว่าท่านเสียสติ เป็นบ้า
แต่อย่างไรก็ตาม เราไม่มีวันรู้ความจริงทั้งหมดได้จากบทเรียนประวัติศาสตร์ ไม่ว่าชาติไหนก็ตาม ผู้ชนะคือผู้เขียนประวัติศาสตร์

Truth is Truth, Nobody can't change it.

This post has been edited by North Pole: Mar 19 2006, 07:20 AM

[corky]

พระเจ้าตากสินเป็นบุคคลที่เสียสละ ยอมให้ลูกหลานคิดว่าท่านเสียสติ เป็นบ้า
แต่อย่างไรก็ตาม เราไม่มีวันรู้ความจริงทั้งหมดได้จากบทเรียนประวัติศาสตร์ ไม่ว่าชาติไหนก็ตาม ผู้ชนะคือผู้เขียนประวัติศาสตร์

Truth is Truth, Nobody can't change it.

i jave started to learn to read and write but due to the size and functionlaity of it that could mean decades before i can read and understand your comments so if soemone could enlighten the farang.....

[Sirikittong]

What a relief??? i know his history... He fighted to save Thai from Burmese takeover and he also destroyed our main city at that time. I mean, he was good with Armies.

Yes he was good with armies; but his attack on Khmer settlements were substantiated; considering the Khmers were also on an offensive when the Ayuthayan Armies were away at war with Burma under Nareusan's banner. After Nareusan destroyed Burma, he reprimanded Kambujiya by raizing Lovek to the ground; typical military strategy in those days.

[grandmaster]

i am the ignorant foriegner whern it comes to the past kings of thailand. for those that know me here know that i love the present king. but i have no knowledge of when and what condition the country was in under other majestics....
please advise---->looks to sirikittong...

I am a king and grandmaster of kings . I am the kings of kings and a bloodline of the original king of Ayuthaya . I am the line of king Outhong (Ramatibodi the 1st) . All the kings in southeast asia needs to bow down to me the grandmaster of kings. kalp khun mak mak na krup. hehe

[Arroi]

I am a king and grandmaster of kings . I am the kings of kings and a bloodline of the original king of Ayuthaya . I am the line of king Outhong (Ramatibodi the 1st) . All the kings in southeast asia needs to bow down to me the grandmaster of kings. kalp khun mak mak na krup. hehe

thats not a very nice thing to say dont you think

[AEROFORCE1]

King Taksin story has taught thai people many things. A commoner of chinese father and thai mother fought hard to kick the enemy out, united his country and moved it forward.

A lot of people should learn from him.

What I learn from King Taksin is all about ;we should keep on looking forward to the future ,instead of stuck with the past.

[holamon]

Im still waiting for your response, Yokie.

@PB. King Ramatibodi I was known as U-thong before he ascended the throne of Ayuthaya; he was the first Deva Raja of Ayuthaya. And yes he was of ethnic chinese background and is said to have been related to Khun Borom; he was from Chiang Saen or present day Chiang Rai province in northern Thailand.

Hmmm..U-thong is a vey typical Teochew Chinese name. If I have to guess, this King is of Teochew Chinese ethnic.

[Point_Dexter]

Yes he was good with armies; but his attack on Khmer settlements were substantiated; considering the Khmers were also on an offensive when the Ayuthayan Armies were away at war with Burma under Nareusan's banner. After Nareusan destroyed Burma, he reprimanded Kambujiya by raizing Lovek to the ground; typical military strategy in those days.

King Nareso destroyed Lovek, and redistributed the Khmer people all over his war torn kingdom.

The same was done by King Rammatibodi II, he resettled Agkorian citizens all over is kingdown, about 3 times.

It was a great strategy in there part.

[Sirikittong]

A yes, King Ramathibodi II the Great; my favorite of all Ayuthayan Kings; the man had pure central thai beauty and his tactical brilliance was known throughout the realm. Under his divine rule; no kingdom or nation state dared war with Ayuthaya; and under his mighty hand; he silenced Angkor completely..completely subjegating the whole (or what was left) of the Khmer Empire. Ramathibodi II...a sublime military genious and a true DEVA RAJA.

This post has been edited by Sirikittong: Jul 3 2006, 02:04 PM

[corky]

A yes, King Ramathibodi II the Great; my favorite of all Ayuthayan Kings; the man had pure central thai beauty and his tactical brilliance was known throughout the realm. Under his divine rule; no kingdom or nation state dared war with Ayuthaya; and under his mighty hand; he silenced Angkor completely..completely subjegating the whole (or what was left) of the Khmer Empire. Ramathibodi II...a sublime military genious and a true DEVA RAJA.

naa son jai jing jing.....
how many kings have the title the great and how is it awarded??