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[pun187]

Salam, i would like to join this society as well =)

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[samsparky]

Bismillah-ir-Rahman-ir-Rahim

Bismillah-ir-Rahman-ir-Rahim means ‘I start with the Name of Allah.’

Allah is the name of the Self Whom we worship (NOTE: self here does not mean body or anything with dimensions or size since Allaah is not subject to these things – only the creations are), the One attributed with Godhood, which is the power to create things (to bring things from the state of non-existence into the state of existence).

Ar-Rahman means the One Who is merciful to the believers and the non-believers in this life, and merciful to only the believers in the Hereafter.

Ar-Rahim means the One Who is merciful to only the believers in the Hereafter.

Praise be to Allah (al-hamdu lillah), the Lord of the humans and jinn,

From the hadith of the Prophet sallallahu ^alayhi wa sallam related by Abu Dawud:

((كُلُّ أَمْرٍ ذِى بَالٍ لا يُبْدَأُ بِحَمْدِ الله فَهُوَ أَقْطَعُ))

(Kullu amrin thi baalin laa yubda2u bihamdillaah fahuwa aqta3u)

It means: <<Every religiously important matter which is not started with praising Allah falls short (i.e. less reward). >>

The meaning of al-hamdu lillah entails praising Allah for the uncountable endowments He endowed upon us.

The One Who is attributed with Life (al-Hayy),

Allah is attributed with an eternal and everlasting Life which does not resemble our life.

Allah’s Life is not the combination of soul, bones, and flesh.

The One Who does not need anything (al-Qayyum),

Al-Qayyum is a name of Allah and means the One Who does not need anything, yet everything else needs Him.

The scholars also said that al-Qayyum means the One Whose Existence does not end.

It does not mean Allah dwells in us or in all things as some blasphemers claimed.

And the One Who manages all the creations.

The (all-inclusive) management of all the creations is an attribute of Allah only.

Allah is the One Who makes everything the way it is.

Some creations may have a certain management over things, however, it is a management which is commensurate with them.

In Surat an-Nazi^at, Ayah 5 Allah said:

{فَالْمُدَبِّرَاتِ أَمْراً}

(Falmudabbirati amra)

In this ayah, Allah attributed a proportional (partial) management to the angels.

The management of Allah includes everything, whereas the management of the angels is restricted to what Allah has willed for them to manage, and it is not similar to the management of Allah.

Every accountable person is obligated to know the Obligatory Knowledge. This comprises the Obligatory Knowledge pertaining to Belief, issues from Purification (Tahaarah) up to Pilgrimage (Hajj), and some rules of dealings. The sins of the heart and of other organs, such as the tongue, and the issue of repentance and its conditions are mentioned as well. The one who is not obligated to pay Zakaah is not obligated to learn the details of paying Zakaah. The same ruling applies to learning the details of Pilgrimage for the one who is neither able nor planning to perform it, and to learning the details of dealings which one is neither engaged in nor is obligated to perform.

The one who absorbs and understands the cases relating to the above issues eventually becomes among the people of discrimination. That is he will be able to discriminate between what is good and what is bad, and between what is valid and invalid. What a great blessing this is!

This post has been edited by samsparky: Apr 10 2006, 01:52 AM

[jason76]

When was Islam introduced to Indonesia?

Why has it been so popular in Indonesia?

[samsparky]

When was Islam introduced to Indonesia?

Why has it been so popular in Indonesia?

hmmm, when? lol that one I don't know - but you can probably look it up

But I do know that it was introduced into Indonesia because the people of Yemen and the people of Indonesia used to do trading and business with eath other.

And because of the excellent adherence to the Islamic code of conduct of buying and selling and good manners, the Indonesians were very impressed and they embraced Islaam.

This is why when you go to Indonesia and Malaysia these days you can still see a strong connection between them and the people of Yemen.

[aisyah]

hmmm, when? lol that one I don't know - but you can probably look it up

But I do know that it was introduced into Indonesia because the people of Yemen and the people of Indonesia used to do trading and business with eath other.

And because of the excellent adherence to the Islamic code of conduct of buying and selling and good manners, the Indonesians were very impressed and they embraced Islaam.

This is why when you go to Indonesia and Malaysia these days you can still see a strong connection between them and the people of Yemen.

wow so it was the Yemen people who brought Islam to Indonesia. I did not know that. Thanks for the info samsparky! (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_smile.gif)

[aisyah]

aisyah:

The re-iteration of your statement - You know what, you are talking about bin laaden and his followers. When people like bin laaden talk, their followers just accept it as true - no questions asked. If their followers had actually been seeking Religious Knowledge the proper way, they would not have gone to people like bin laaden. why? because people like bin laaden are not following the Prophet's way. Not following how the Companions taught Islaam, not following how the taabi^oon took it from the Companions, not following how the Khalaf took it from the Salaf and not following how the true scholars of today took it from those before them. If they were, they would not have adopted such misunderstandings of Islaam and would not have gone suicide bombing innocent people.

It might be said, such ideas deviating from the true teachings of Islaam might have arisen because of lack of adherance to the authentic chain of knowledge that runs back to the Prophet. They might have arisen because of going off on their own and making their own so-called understanding. THAT is what you should be saying is the cause of deviants and radicals. NOT those who adhere to the true teachings of Prophet MuHammad by learning it through those he taught.

I completely agree.

And I think I understand now what you mean through your second paragraph. And I think I meant the same but we just might've expressed it differently. (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/embarassedlaugh.gif) If we truly, sincerely, seek to understand Islam we will find that we will not sway far from the true teachings of the Prophet.

I don't know if you feel the same, but in my experiences it has been hard to find the "true teachings of the Prophet", as it seems like many Muslims I know have chosen to base their knowledge elsewhere (or use a dogmatic/dictatorial approach towards religious teaching). I really like your post about the "Merits of Seeking Religious Knowledge" and I wish the community I am in truly implemented the methods explained in your post.

And the reiteration of my statement, while also including Bin Laden and his followers (as well as other extremists/fanatics), are also about many Muslims who have sanctimonious/self-righteous attitudes, and those who tend to put down other Muslims...I feel these Muslims have also deviated from the "true teachings of the Prophet" as I don't believe the Prophet would ever encourage or especially embrace such attitudes.

I don't know if you have encountered any, but in the communities I have lived in (and my current one) I've crossed paths with plenty of them.

aisyah again:

Please be clear that there is not writing without a writer, there is no building without a builder, hence there is no creation without the Creator. That is sound intellect. That is the proof.

God, the Creator is Attributed with non-resemblance to the creations. Surat ash-Shooraa, Ayah 11 means: [There is absolutely nothing like Him and He is attributed with Hearing and Sight.]

What does that mean? It means that God's Attributes are not like ours. His Hearing and Sight are unimaginable.

No attribute of the creation is attributed to Him, as Imaam Abu Ja^far at-TaHaawiyy, a reknown scholar of the first 300 Hijriyy years reinforced by saying in the creed he wrote:

"And whoever attributes to Allaah an attribute of the creations is a blasphemer."

Why did he say that? Because such a person is not worshipping the Creator but rather is worshipping something they imagined in their mind and that is shirk (worshipping other than God).

Hence, we must be firm that the things that apply to us like ears, eyes, direction, place, beginning and end do NOT apply to the Creator of all these things.

We do not attribute shape to God or size. We do not attribute to Him body or colour.

We do not attribute to Him form or structure or being made of parts because all those attributes are attributes that the specification of the creations are based on.

All those attributes apply to creations and not to the Creator. That is logic and that is from the Qur'aan and that is from the Hadeeth and from the Companions sayings, and the sayings of the top scholars.

For more info post "1" (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_wink.gif)

I wholeheartedly agree with this.

I believe that if we give God any kind of measureable characteristics (such as an end, beginning, color, body, shape, size, etc.) we will have given God limitations and have "created" God to be what we think God looks like instead of God "just being".

That is why there is only One God and not two/three/four. To have a second God means that we need a characteristic (palpable/discernible one) to differentiate the second God from the first. Thus, we have created God.

And I completely agree that THAT is logical, which is why I believe that Islam is quite a logical religion.

What do you think? Anybody else feel the same? (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

^ thanks for your explanation aisyah. (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

i partuicularly like your view that ppl (especially muslims) should not be unquestioning when approaching islam, but apply a bit of common sense on what is God's will, while being wholehearted at the same time. probably applies to other religions as well, particularly christianity.

salam kenal (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_smile.gif)

You're quite welcome (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_smile.gif)

I think it should apply to all aspects of our lives...because if we follow anything without question we give leverage to those in authority (be they religious or secular) to manipulate us for their own gains/purposes.

[aisyah]

We all know that Islam forbids the innocent killings. But where I live there has been several suicide bomb attacks both in Nairobi and Mombasa. Al Qaida cells are reputed to be along the Somali-Kenya coasts. Many kenyan muslims here have discussed the mind sets of the suicide bombers.

Basically, when the suicide bombers decide to carry out their mission, it's based on the fact that they are acting out of self-defence because they feel that the ummas all over the world have been provoked too much by the encroachment of western powers in their lands and resources.

Secondly, although the Quran prohibits innocent killiings, the suicide bombers feel that if they are wrong in this mission, only Allah can judge them on the day of reckoning, no one else can judge them.

With these fundamental reasoning, people will go on committing errors and barbarities in the name of religion. Unless of course, a leader of the muslim world can come up and denounce such ideas as delusional reasoning that goes against the Holy Qu'ran.

But you won't find such a leader, not unless the christians come up with their own leader to say where they've gone wrong too.

For me, I can understand why they have resorted to violence. The dire conditions (economically or heavy war areas) of many Muslim countries makes it easier for the residents to go off into the extreme, using violence to express themselves.

As for judging them, I believe that once our actions affect the personal safety of another, then for the sake of our communities, our future generations, we should make judgements on it in order to prevent such deplorable actions from spreading or hurting anyone else. I don't think Allah will want us to just sit still and wait for Him to do something about it...

If say a husband physically abuses his wife or parents abusing their children, although yes Allah will judge them on the day of reckoning, should we just allow this to happen? Or should we try to stop it? and prevent it?

As Muslims we are not allowed to inflict harm on someone else, even in war we have limitations. I read somewhere that the Prophet believes (or encourages using) Power of the Pen (I don't think I got the phrase right though) is the ultimate tool (our best method of self-defense) we should use to "fight" against those who wage 'war" against us. Because no matter how many of our "enemies" we kill, the ideology/beliefs/perceptions that they embrace will still survive. To effectively "fight" we don't use our physical bodies we use our intellects.

That is why the Prophet strongly encourages every Muslim (men and women) to be educated. The usage of our physical bodies to "fight" should be taken as the last resort and only in self-defense.

As for leaders of the Muslim world standing up and denoucing such ideas/acts, there has been a lot, atleast from what I know. Maybe you can elaborate this part of your post more...

And I am sorry that your area has experienced such atrocities..

[tangawizi]

On introduction of islam to Indonesia, I thought it was primarily the muslims from India who spread the faith throughout the archipelago? Rather than the Yemenis? I think the latter came much later during the era of the Industrial Revolution (18th -19th century) when travel to Mecca for the Haj became possible for masses of Malayan and Indonesian muslims, thanks to the steamships brought by the colonials.

As for leaders of the Muslim world standing up and denoucing such ideas/acts, there has been a lot, atleast from what I know. Maybe you can elaborate this part of your post more...

And I am sorry that your area has experienced such atrocities..

I am sorry too that East africans have been very badly hit by the terrorist bombings, both socially and economically.

Do you all agree that verily, the crusade has not ended after all these centuries?

Even if the Pope doesn't actively galvanise the christian forces to attack muslim lands, his very lack of action is like a tacit agreement on the wars led by leading christian nations like Britain and USA. The Papacy has made some statements condemning the invasion of Iraq, but Italy is part of the coalition forces, action just speaks louder than words... (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_confused.gif)

I believe the Pope should pave the way for reconciliation between the Abrahamaic faiths - Judaism, Christianity and Islam. Why? Coz it has the money and power to facilitate the kind of dialogue. It is because of this continuing lack of dialogue which has pushed radicals like Biin Laden to resort to the gun rather than the pen.

Sure, many muslim leaders have risen to denounce the innocent killings, but there are still errant imams in certain communities who would call for the population to take up arms against the western powers during the occasional Friday prayers. Does Islam have a disciplinary body to check the preaching of these imams? Because Islam doesn't possess a leader with the status similar to the Pope, such doctrinal errors will continue to go unchecked in certain communities.

I believe the inter-faith dialogue is necessary in order to identify the leaders representing not only the different muslim sects, but also the judaic and christian sects. They got to come together and work out a settlement and not leave it to the average man in the street to take justice into their own hands. This is where the pen will be mightier than the sword. These dialogues should be held in Jerusalem, so these leaders can feel the weight of history and bloodshed in this so-called Holy City on their hands when they come to settle their differences. (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/biggthumpup.gif)

This post has been edited by tangawizi: Apr 10 2006, 01:09 PM

[pancaindera]

I think it should apply to all aspects of our lives...because if we follow anything without question we give leverage to those in authority (be they religious or secular) to manipulate us for their own gains/purposes.

yes. i agree. we not only need to avoid giving leverage to those manipulative ppl in authority, but also those innocent, yet delusional ones, who might also infect us with their delusion.

I believe the inter-faith dialogue is necessary in order to identify the leaders representing not only the different muslim sects, but also the judaic and christian sects. They got to come together and work out a settlement and not leave it to the average man in the street to take justice into their own hands. This is where the pen will be mightier than the sword. These dialogues should be held in Jerusalem, so these leaders can feel the weight of history and bloodshed in this so-called Holy City on their hands when they come to settle their differences. (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/biggthumpup.gif)

sounds like a good idea. has this been suggested or done before?

[tangawizi]

sounds like a good idea. has this been suggested or done before?

The new Pope did say he was gonna carry out a world-wide inter-faith dialogue when he carried out his first mass, but that seems to be just a PR stunt, nothing came out of that since then.

Inter-faith dialogues are being held locally in countries, I know it takes place between local church and muslim leaders in the UK, but these are like local events and not worldwide events where everyone from Anatolia to Zimbabwe are watching the world religious leaders pronouncing a way forward. Nothing symbolic has been done so far.

[e_vaholic]

i don't understand why many people hates islam...
anybody knows here??

[samheisfl]

Really?

[samsparky]

Usually the people who say they hate Islaam, hold misconceptions about it.

There is a certain portion of the Knowledge of the Religion that every accountable person must learn. The Prophet, Sallallaahu ^alayhi wa sallam, said:

((طَلَبُ العِلْمِ فَرِيضَةٌ عَلَى كُلّ مُسلمٍ))

In this Hadeeth related by al-Bayhaqiyy, the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم told us:

<<Seeking the Obligatory Knowledge of the Religion is an obligation upon every Muslim. >>

Seeking this knowledge is an obligation on every accountable Muslim, whether male or female. This Hadeeth was classified as Hasan by Haafith al-Mizziyy.

Since this summary contains what is obligatory to learn of the religious knowledge, the student needs to pay due attention to it. The correct knowledge guides the person to the valid deed and the valid performance.

Imam Muslim related from the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم that he said:

((إِنَّ الملائكَةَ لَتَضَعُ أجنحتَها لطالبِ العلمِ رِضًى بما يصنعُ))

It means: <<The angels lower their wings out of humbleness to the student seeking the Knowledge of the Religion, because of their delight with his deed. >>

THE ESSENTIALS OF BELIEF

It is obligatory upon the one who is accountable but not Muslim to embrace Islam immediately. One is accountable if one is sane, pubescent, and has received the basic message of Islam. Sane (^aaqil) means not crazy. The male becomes pubescent when one of two matters occurs: he discharges his maniyy (maniyy is a term used equally for men and women. It refers to the sexual spermatic fluid of the man, and the corresponding sexual fluid of the woman.) or he becomes 15 lunar years old. The woman becomes pubescent by one of three matters: she discharges her maniyy, she becomes 15 lunar years old, or she menstruates.

One is considered as having received the message of Islam if one received the basic message. For example, if one heard (and understood) the Testification of Faith (No one is God except Allaah, and MuHammad is the Messenger of Allaah), one has received the basic message. To become accountable, it is not a condition that the person receives the details of the creed. Hence, if the non-Muslim was pubescent, sane, and received the basic message, it is obligatory for him to embrace Islam immediately. If he does not, and he dies in that state of blasphemy, then he deserves the everlasting torture in Hellfire.

The one who does not receive the basic message of Islam will not be tortured in Hellfire. This is so because Allaah said in Suratul-Israa’, Ayah 15:

{وَمَا كُنَّا مُعَذِّبِينَ حَتَّى نَبْعَثَ رَسُولاً}

It means that Allaah will not punish (in the Hereafter) those who do not receive the basic message (the creed of Islam) of any prophet. Such people are not accountable.

Likewise, the person who dies before pubescence will be safe in the Hereafter, even if he worshipped a stone. Likewise, the person whose insanity continues until after pubescence and dies will be safe in the Hereafter.

To become Muslim is an easy matter: One believes in one’s heart in the meanings of the Testification of Faith and utters it with one’s tongue—either in Arabic or any other language (even if one knows Arabic). In English, one says:

“I testify that no one is God except Allaah, and (I testify) that MuHammad is the Messenger of Allaah”

…or uses other words which give the aforementioned meaning. One does not become Muslim if one does NOT UTTER the Testification of Faith—even if one holds the proper belief in one’s heart.

Without delay, the blasphemer must utter the Testification of Faith to become Muslim. The Muslim must utter the Testification of Faith in the last tashahhud of every prayer for the validity of that prayer. The statement Sallallaahu ^alayhi wa sallam is not part of the Testification of Faith. Hence, one is not required to utter it. This statement is rewardable to say after mentioning the name of Prophet MuHammad. It means: may Allaah raise the rank of Prophet MuHammad and protect his (Muslim) Nation from what he fears for them.

[malaccan]

I've a feeling that most of us here are Sunni. Like most Southeast Asian Muslims, I was brought up in the Shafii school of law.

Any Wahabbis? (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_confused.gif)

[e_vaholic]

i'm not sunni or shiah or whatever..
i only followed the right Islam..
as long as the teaching is good and Islam allows it..
i'm ok with it..

thanks for the explaination!!!

[samsparky]

The meaning of Ash-hadu al-laa ilaaha il-lallaah is: “I know, believe, and declare that nothing deserves to be worshipped except Allaah”

This means that I firmly believe in my heart and declare with my tongue that nothing deserves to be worshipped except Allaah.

Some people worship things other than Allaah. For example, some people worship buddha. Some people worship Prophet Jesus. Some people worship idols. Some people even worship the devil. All these things are worshipped unrightfully.

Allaah is the only One Who deserves to be worshipped.

Definition of Worship

As defined by Imaam Taqiyyud-Deen as-Subkiyy (d. 756 AH), who was a well-known scholar of Fiqh, the fundamentals of the Religion, the interpretation of the Qur’aan, the Arabic language, and other sciences of Religion, “worship” is:

غَاية الخُضُوع والخُشُوع

(ghaayatul khuDoo3i wal khushoo3)

which means the ultimate submission and humbleness (to someone else).

Ar-Raaghib al-ASbahaaniyy, the famous linguist, established the same definition for “worship” in his book, Mufradaatul-Qur’aan.

So, worship is not simply ‘to call upon one’, ‘to fear one’, or ‘to be hopeful of one’.

Rather, calling upon, fearing of, or being hopeful of something entails worship only when linked to and associated with the ultimate submitting and humbling of oneself to that thing.

Allaah is One (al-WaaHid),

معنى الواحدِ أن الله لا شريكَ له قي الألوهيّةِ ولا معبود بحق سواه

Allaah is One (WaaHid) means Allaah does not have a partner with Him in Godhood.

‘One’ here does not refer to a number. Numbers can increase or decrease, be added to or subtracted from, and can be divided.

For example, to say ‘one person’ does not mean that this person has no partners in humanity. Rather, it is mentioned in the context of a number, i.e., he is one among others. Moreover, others are similar to him in certain aspects.

However, when we refer to Allaah as ‘One’ it means ‘the One Who does not have a partner.’

Imaam Abu Haneefah (d. 150 AH), may Allaah raise his rank, said in al-Fiqh al-Akbar:

(والله واحدٌ لا من طريق العددِ ولكنْ مِن طريق أنَّه لا شريكَ لهُ)

It means: “Allaah is One, not in the context of numbers, but in the context that He does not have any partner.”

Indivisible (al-AHad),

All scholars agree that Allaah is not a body and their evidence is from the Qur’aan. Allaah Exists without a how – the scholars only differed in assigning a meaning to the word ‘al-AHad’.

Some scholars said al-AHad has the same meaning as al-WaaHid, i.e., there is no partner to Allaah in His Godhood.

Others said al-AHad means ‘the One Who is indivisible,’ because He is not a body.

Allaah is without a beginning (al-Awwal) - Eternal (al-Qadeem),

Al-Awwal and al-Qadeem have the same meaning which is ‘the One Whose Existence is without a beginning.’

His Existence was not preceded by a state of non-existence.

Allaah alone is the One Who is attributed with this attribute.

The existence of all things other than Allaah has a beginning.

This matter is among the fundamentals of the Muslim’s belief. Anyone who believes otherwise is not a Muslim (because to believe that something other than Allaah has no beginning is believing that that thing is not created and hence it is associating partners with Allaah).

He is Alive (al-Hayy), the One Who does not need anything (al-Qayyoom),

Allaah is Alive and His Life is without end.

Allaah is attributed with an eternal and everlasting Life which does not resemble our life. His Life is without soul, flesh, blood, bones or body.

Allaah does not need anything, but all the creation is in need of Allaah.

Allaah is Everlasting (ad-Daa’im),

The Everlasting means ‘the One Whose Existence does not end.’

Allaah is Everlasting because that which ends must have had a beginning (it accepts at a time existence and at a time non-existence and hence is in need of one to specify it with either); therefore it must be a creation, and not the Creator.

It is logically impossible for Allaah to end. Allah’s Attribute of Everlastingness is not because of another specifying Him with it. However, the everlastingness of Paradise and Hellfire is because Allaah specified them with it – otherwise logically it is possible for them to end but we have been informed that they will not end.

Allaah is the Creator (al-Khaaliq),

The Creator means ‘The One Who brings everything from the state of non-existence into the state of existence.’ Nothing among the creations comes into existence except by the creating of Allaah.

Allaah said in Surat Ar-Ra^d, Ayah 16:

قُلِ اللّهُ خَالِقُ كُلِّ شَيْءٍ
(qulillaahu khaaliqu kulli shay’)

Which means: Say Allaah is the Creator of everything.

And Allaah said in Surat aS-Saaf-faat, Ayah 96:

وَاللَّهُ خَلَقَكُمْ وَمَا تَعْمَلُونَ
(wallaahu khalaqakum wamaa ta^maloon)

Which means: Allaah created you and what you do.

The slave and his actions exist by the creating of Allaah. All of us, including our doings, thoughts, and inclinations are created by Allaah. The slave does not create anything. The slave does not bring anything from the state of non-existence into the state of existence. Rather, the slave only acquires his deeds. He directs his intention towards a particular deed, but Allaah is the One Who creates that deed.

Likewise, causes do not create any of their results. The fire (cause) does not create burning (result). The knife (cause) does not create cutting (result). The bread (cause) does not create the feeling of satisfaction from hunger (result). Water (cause) does not create the quenching of thirst (result). The sun (cause) does not create warmth (result).

Rather, these are causes followed by results and their Creator is Allaah. At the point when the fire comes in contact with a certain combustible material, Allaah creates the burning in that material. Had Allaah not willed for that particular body to burn as a result of touching the fire, He would not have created the burning, and by consequence, it would not have burnt.

This was the case with Prophet Ibraaheem عليه السلام. He was put into a large, raging fire—yet he was not burnt—because Allaah did not create the attribute of burning (cause) in that fire nor did He create the burning in Ibraaheem (result).

This case is also among the fundamentals of the creed.

The one who believes that there is something or someone who shares with Allaah the attribute of creating (of bringing things from non-existence into existence) is not a Muslim, even if he claims so. To enter Islaam he must repent from such beliefs and utter the Testification of Faith.

[samsparky]

Allaah is the Sustainer (ar-Raaziq),

The Sustainer is the One Who gives the sustenance (rizq) to His slaves.

Sustenance (rizq) includes all the things which give a benefit to the person-whether from a lawful or an unlawful source.

Allaah is Knowledgeable (al-^Aalim),

Allaah is the One Who knows everything.

His Knowledge is without a beginning, without an ending, doesn't change, doesn't increase or decrease.

There is nothing hidden from Allaah.

Allaah knows His Self, His Attributes, and His creations.
(Note: Self here does not mean body or shape or spirit or anything you imagine.)

Allaah knows the things before they happen.

Allaah is Powerful (al-Qadeer)

Allaah is the One Who has Power over all things.

He is not powerless over anything.

Allaah's Power is related to all intellectual possibilities.

Intellectual possibilities are things that the mind can accept for them existence and non-existence (at different points in time). For example humans - it is possible that they exist and also possible that they not exist.

Allaah makes things exist and makes things cease to exist.

Allaah is the One Who does whatever He wills, i.e. whatever Allaah willed to be shall be and whatever Allaah did not will to be shall not be.

Abu Daawood related that the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم taught some of his daughters:

((ما شاء الله كان وما لم يشأ لم يكن))
(Maa shaa' Allaahu kaan wa maa lam yasha' lam yakun)

This means that everything that Allaah willed in eternity (no beginning) to happen must happen in the way which Allaah eternally knew and at the time at which Allaah eternally willed for it to occur.

That which Allaah did not will in eternity to happen will never happen.

Should an entire nation come together to inflict a harm on you that Allaah did not will to happen to you, it will not be able to harm you.

Likewise, should a nation come together to benefit you with a certain matter that Allaah did not will in eternity for you to benefit from, it will not be able to do so.

This also is among the fundamentals of the proper belief.

The Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم , in several Hadeeths (narrated by at-Tabariyy, Abu Daawood, and others), explicitly mentioned that anyone who holds a creed contrary to this is not a Muslim.

"Laa Hawla wa laa Quwwata il-laa billaah" لا حَولَ ولا قوَّة إلا بالله

This is a statement that the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم taught us to say.

As Abu Ya^laa al-MawSiliyy related, the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم explained this statement to mean: "Without Allaah's protection no one can evade sinning, and without Allaah's help no one has the strength to obey Him."

لا حول عن معصية الله إلا بعصمة الله ولا قوة على طاعة الله إلا بعون الله

This does not mean that the person has no will and is like a feather in the wind because that would contradict the Ayah: {wa ma tashaa'oona illa an yashaa' Allaah} because in this Ayah Allaah attributed will to the humans.

The human does his deeds willingly and under the will of Allaah.

Imam Ali was asked about Destining. He said: sirrullaah falaa tatakallaf. When the person insisted, Imam Ali said: am_ma ith abayta fa'in_nahu amrun bayna amrayni laa jabrun walaa tafweeDun, i.e. it is a matter between 2 matters - not jabr & not tafweeD.

jabr = being forced to do things involuntarily
tafweed = to do whatever you want without being under the will of anyone else.

The human does his deeds willingly and under the will of Allaah.

Destining is a hidden matter that the slave will never be able to know every detail about. That is why the Prophet said not to go too much into thinking about its reality but to stick to what we do know about it. He said: <<Ithaa thukiral Qadar fa amsikoo. >> Related by at_Tabaraaniy.

To give you an example - we know that Allaah is the Creator of everything - as proven above from the Qur'aan. Hence, there was a point in time when both light and darkness did not exist.

None of us can imagine it because our imagination is based on what we are used to.

This post has been edited by samsparky: Apr 18 2006, 09:49 PM

[jason76]

hmmm, when? lol that one I don't know - but you can probably look it up

But I do know that it was introduced into Indonesia because the people of Yemen and the people of Indonesia used to do trading and business with eath other.

And because of the excellent adherence to the Islamic code of conduct of buying and selling and good manners, the Indonesians were very impressed and they embraced Islaam.

This is why when you go to Indonesia and Malaysia these days you can still see a strong connection between them and the people of Yemen.

thanks man (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[Jagger]

Assalamu Alaikhum brothers and sisters. I didn't know there was an Islamic Society until now. I want to join.

I assume most of the Muslims here are Malaysian and Indonesian?


This post has been edited by Jagger: Apr 21 2006, 04:59 PM

[pun187]

Assalamu Alaikhum brothers and sisters. I didn't know there was an Islamic Society until now. I want to join.

I assume most of the Muslims here are Malaysian and Indonesian?

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most of our members aren't muslims (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) but yeah...your right (IMG:style_emoticons/default/embarassedlaugh.gif) most of the muslim ones are Malaysian and Indonesian