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The Ryukyuan people of Japan
Takashi
post Mar 25 2006, 09:26 AM
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QUOTE (Adee @ Mar 25 2006, 01:57 PM) *
So Reiko is Okinawan? No wonder she kinda look SE asian.

lol tell her she doesnt look japanese and she gets pissy (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/embarassedlaugh.gif)
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post Mar 25 2006, 09:28 AM
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Oh $hit. (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_redface.gif)

Sorry Reiko (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/neartears.gif)
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post Mar 25 2006, 07:49 PM
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QUOTE (Takashi @ Mar 25 2006, 06:26 AM) *
lol tell her she doesnt look japanese and she gets pissy (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/embarassedlaugh.gif)


Nah, I'll teach her to go Columbine (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/embarassedlaugh.gif) (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/naughty.gif)

One more thing...

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They are but a lot of Okinawans will say they're Okinawan as opposed to just Japanese, its stupid


It's called regionalism.
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post Mar 26 2006, 12:32 AM
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QUOTE (Digital Insanity @ Mar 26 2006, 01:49 AM) *
It's called regionalism.

Makes it no less stupid.

'Are you Japanese?'
'No I'm Okinawan'

wtf.........
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post Mar 26 2006, 01:43 AM
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i read in some documentation somewhere....that the people of those islands in ancient times had delicious meat attached to their bones....i think it was from a korean source?
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post Mar 26 2006, 03:03 AM
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awesome thread, bubbles! (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/biggthumpup.gif)

i LOVE okinawan culture!!!!
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post Mar 26 2006, 03:10 AM
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WTF?!! (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/eek.gif)

Okinawans are NOT Japanese people. They may have mongoloid features of East Asian people, but a lot of them are hairier than Japanese people.

I'd say they're a mix of people from Polynesia, China and the Mariana Island areas. But most of them came from mainland China according to Chinese poetry and historical sources.



QUOTE (Takashi @ Mar 25 2006, 01:11 AM) *
They are but a lot of Okinawans will say they're Okinawan as opposed to just Japanese, its stupid (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_rolleyes.gif)
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post Mar 26 2006, 03:18 AM
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QUOTE (BahDukeplayer @ Mar 26 2006, 09:10 AM) *
WTF?!! (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/eek.gif)

Okinawans are NOT Japanese people. They may have mongoloid features of East Asian people, but a lot of them are hairier than Japanese people.

I'd say they're a mix of people from Polynesia, China and the Mariana Island areas. But most of them came from mainland China according to Chinese poetry and historical sources.

They're Japanese citizens seeing as Okinawa is a prefecture therefore they should call themselves Japanese.

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post Mar 26 2006, 03:18 AM
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^So is that why the mainland Japanese discriminate against them just because they got more Chinese blood? I know that karate came from this region via Chinese immigrants from Fukien migrating there and teaching locals how to use kungfu since the samurai forbid them to carry swords.

In California, I have met my share of Japanese-Americans who are of Okinawan descent. They tend to have some southern Chinese influences in their face. Like that guy from Star Trek, a lot of Okinawans I met looked kinda like him.

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post Mar 26 2006, 03:23 AM
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The tie between Ryukyuan languages and the Japanese language seems to suggest that their common origin is in immigrants from eastern China, the founders of Yayoi or Kofun I think.

Edit: just realised bubbles post pretty much says this (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_rolleyes.gif)

Anyway I dont think any of my Okinawan side are discriminated against, at least not these days anyway.

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post Mar 27 2006, 05:37 PM
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QUOTE (BahDukeplayer @ Mar 26 2006, 03:10 AM) *
WTF?!! (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/eek.gif)

Okinawans are NOT Japanese people. They may have mongoloid features of East Asian people, but a lot of them are hairier than Japanese people.

I'd say they're a mix of people from Polynesia, China and the Mariana Island areas. But most of them came from mainland China according to Chinese poetry and historical sources.


Okinawans WERE NOT Japanese origin,Japan's Satsuma samurai clan captured those islands during Ming Dynasty according to one Japanese TV drama aired in the 1990's.

AINU are the hairy NATIVE Japanese not Okinawans as you've mistaken,modern day Japanese are a mix of Koreans/central coastal mainland Chinese/Polynesian/etc.

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post Mar 27 2006, 06:50 PM
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Japan annexed Ryukyu islands in the 1870s.
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post Mar 27 2006, 07:01 PM
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QUOTE (sweetricecake @ Mar 27 2006, 05:37 PM) *
Okinawans WERE NOT Japanese origin,Japan's Satsuma samurai clan captured those islands during Ming Dynasty according to one Japanese TV drama aired in the 1990's.

AINU are the hairy NATIVE Japanese not Okinawans as you've mistaken,modern day Japanese are a mix of Koreans/central coastal mainland Chinese/Polynesian/etc.

However Uchinaguchi is under Japonic language.

There are many okinwan celebrities nowaday in mainstream Japan including namie amuro and orange range

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post Apr 1 2006, 01:08 PM
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QUOTE (Takashi @ Mar 25 2006, 07:32 PM) *
Makes it no less stupid.

'Are you Japanese?'
'No I'm Okinawan'

wtf.........


You should be proud to be okinawan! My Great grandfather and greatgrandmother came from Okinawa to Hawaii in the early 1900s. The Japanese from Mainland Japan always looked down on the Okinawan's because they were farmers, even here in Hawaii. I have 9 nationalities but my last name is Jitchaku. From my research I found that even my last name in Okinawa is no more. Jitchaku is now Serikaku, a Japanese name. What a shame! You should take pride in being from Okinawa! At least I can go to where my family comes from to research family ties because there still is Jitchaku prefecture. We were from what I understand related to Chinen. If you don't take pride in your heritage it will dissapear. From what I understand there is a growing undercurrent of people trying to acknowledge the culture. Similar to the resurgance in the Hawaiian culture during the 1970's of which I'm also proud to come from. Aloha.
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post Apr 1 2006, 01:15 PM
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QUOTE (808racer @ Apr 1 2006, 07:08 PM) *
You should be proud to be okinawan! My Great grandfather and greatgrandmother came from Okinawa to Hawaii in the early 1900s. The Japanese from Mainland Japan always looked down on the Okinawan's because they were farmers, even here in Hawaii. I have 9 nationalities but my last name is Jitchaku. From my research I found that even my last name in Okinawa is no more. Jitchaku is now Serikaku, a Japanese name. What a shame! You should take pride in being from Okinawa! At least I can go to where my family comes from to research family ties because there still is Jitchaku prefecture. We were from what I understand related to Chinen. If you don't take pride in your heritage it will dissapear. From what I understand there is a growing undercurrent of people trying to acknowledge the culture. Similar to the resurgance in the Hawaiian culture during the 1970's of which I'm also proud to come from. Aloha.

Didnt say they shouldnt, however they're still Japanese.
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post Apr 1 2006, 01:20 PM
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QUOTE (sweetricecake @ Mar 27 2006, 12:37 PM) *
Okinawans WERE NOT Japanese origin,Japan's Satsuma samurai clan captured those islands during Ming Dynasty according to one Japanese TV drama aired in the 1990's.

AINU are the hairy NATIVE Japanese not Okinawans as you've mistaken,modern day Japanese are a mix of Koreans/central coastal mainland Chinese/Polynesian/etc.


I beg to differ. Okinawans have always been known as hairy. I should know. My great grandparents and their community all came from Okinawa and are for a fact hairy.

QUOTE (Takashi @ Apr 1 2006, 08:15 AM) *
Didnt say they shouldnt, however they're still Japanese.


They are Japanese as much as Hawaiians are Americans.
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post Apr 1 2006, 01:26 PM
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QUOTE (808racer @ Apr 1 2006, 07:20 PM) *
They are Japanese as much as Hawaiians are Americans.

Matter of opinion (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_confused.gif)
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post Apr 1 2006, 01:30 PM
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QUOTE (Takashi @ Apr 1 2006, 08:26 AM) *


everything discused in these chats are a matter of someones opinion. whats your point?

Okinawans existed in Ryuku, Japanese army entered the islands and took over and became rulers.
Hawaiians existed in Hawaii, American Navy entered the islands and took over and became rulers. Whats the difference?

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post Apr 1 2006, 01:33 PM
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QUOTE (808racer @ Apr 1 2006, 07:30 PM) *
everything discused in these chats are a matter of someones opinion. whats your point?

That I disagree but cant be arsed to get into a discussion about it.
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post Apr 8 2006, 08:14 PM
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Some different info. on Ryukyu islands. Includes the importance of the Japan Ocean Current in Ryukyu. http://mickmc.tripod.com/history2.html
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