Origins of Japanese, article suggests modern japanese are descended from koguryo's sett Options

[rahul1000]

I'm surprised to get a good amount of ag (Japanese) in India, whats up with that, it looks like a mistake to me. (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/sure.gif)

[Musashino]

Now arn't you doing the same thing?

Huh? All I did was comment in one thread. That doesn't make me obsessed with the bloodline of the Japanese race.

Why does it upset you that Korea may have been connections between Korea and Japan?

Since when did I indicate being "upset"? (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_rolleyes.gif)

Fine, China had the bigger influence on Japan if that makes you satisfied.

Why should I care? It's your opinion.

The man's just showing some interesting documentaries.

And he opened a thread welcoming other people's responses (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_rolleyes.gif)

And that whole internet war was sparked by a Japanese flash-movie that claimed Japan made the foundations of ancient Korea. Never-ending propaganda flash-movies can be found around naver and magga.

Give us a credible link.

And that does not include some second-rate web-page done by some disgruntled college kid.

[sweetricecake]

Uh, what's your ethnicity, may I ask?

Hey .... you (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/confused.gif) STOP acting like a moron

[Kstragist]

There is no way that shady chart is for real, lol Mongols two lines under English. My dad's more related English than S Chinese? lol!!! Btw where's N Chinese or Vietnamese?

That's total BS, because genetic traits and expressed phenotypic traits go hand in hand.

Why don't you give us scientific source instead of a chart that reeks of MS paint.

(IMG:http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/5018/untitled12lg.png)

That comes from a scientic source. It comes from The history and geography of human genes by Cavalli-Sforza, L.L., Menozzi, P.& Piazza, A.
If you think about it, there's considerable differnces in phynotypic traits as well. Height for example, N. chinese are a way taller than S. ones. Difference in temperment. N. Chinese are a way more aggressive and competitive than S. ones.

There's a considerable genetical difference between N. chinese and S. chinese
The picture below comes from a Japanese textbook.

(IMG:http://www3.mahoroba.ne.jp/~npa/narayaku/image/dna_map.jpg)

Uh, what's your ethnicity, may I ask?

She's a taiwanese, at least that's what she claims to be.

This post has been edited by Kstragist: Mar 31 2006, 09:36 PM

[n4ce12]

silly kids....

japanese people came from vag*nas

[Kstragist]

silly kids....

japanese people came from vag*nas

I agree with you 100%.

[azndood]

its amazing how much koreans want to be related to the japanese and even claim that they are from european descent.

this guy doesnt know $hit...our grandparents would scoff at the idea

Koreans past and present WORSHIP Chinese ancestor Confucius.

Japanese SMARTLY developed own unique culture,now has many CULTURAL ATTRACTIONS fascinate foreign visitors.Unlike lowly Koreans relied on Chinese much of everything from writing to civil institutions except KIMCHI.

your a fu-king idiot. Back then Culture = China China = Culture, China had one of the greatest and most advanced civilizations of the world. Koreans took as much as they can for their own benefit and recognized this. We were proud of how much Chinese culture we were able to accomodate, while the Japanese were looked at as a backwater country filled with hunters and gatherers. You do know that much of Japanese culture derived from Chinese Tang culture. Korean from Ming. But in this we were all our own separate peoples with a uniqueness that stretches from differing ancestral origins. If you look at it from the Asian perspective, the japanese were the first to sell out to the west and forsaked their own way of life. So fu-k you you fu-king dim witted troll.

Anyways as so far as chinese culture being filtered through the korean peninsula to get to japan
you must remember who the people were that carried the culture to japan. For the most part they were korean from the down low the the up high. Its recorded in the Nihonjin of the number of foreign clans. About 1/3 are from china while 2/3rds are from Paekche/Koguryo households and 1/8 being from Shilla. Note these were the later immigrants, not the ones who set up the Yamato dynasty, which go back to more ancient peninsular origins before there was a Korean or Japanese identity.

This post has been edited by azndood: Mar 28 2006, 10:31 PM

[R3M1X]

ahh making sense now o_O.. my korean friend was telling me something about that.. i think he said their Karate came from Korea too

[azndood]

ahh making sense now o_O.. my korean friend was telling me something about that.. i think he said their Karate came from Korea too

some will take it to the extremes, this is not true, karate traveled through the okinawan islands from taiwan and ultimately from china

[Jagger]

I'm surprised to get a good amount of ag (Japanese) in India, whats up with that, it looks like a mistake to me. (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/sure.gif)

There seems to be a particularly high amount of it in South India, which I doubt, since they don't look anything like the Japanese.

[出家人]

some will take it to the extremes, this is not true, karate traveled through the okinawan islands from taiwan and ultimately from china

This is true. Karate used to be written as Tang shou (唐手) in hanzi, meaning Chinese hand.

[Titanium]

Genetically speaking, Japanese trace partial origins to Korea and culturally speaking from China. However, that still didn't stop them from raping both countries. As someone here already said, genetic origins/relations mean very little.

[roses]

i dont think its more likely that chinese people went thousands of miles to japan rather than koreans who literally could walk over there. cuz some people are saying china influenced japan 100% and korea had no influence on japan at all whatsoever.

This post has been edited by roses: Mar 29 2006, 05:49 PM

[Musashino]

ahh making sense now o_O.. my korean friend was telling me something about that.. i think he said their Karate came from Korea too

What a surprise (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/embarassedlaugh.gif)

Next he'll be saying that Koreans were directly responsible for the Meiji Restoration.

[bubbles20]

That comes from a scientic source. It comes from The history and geography of human genes by Cavalli-Sforza, L.L., Menozzi, P.& Piazza, A.
If you think about it, there's considerable differnces in phynotypic traits as well. Height for example, N. chinese are a way taller than S. ones. Difference in temperment. N. Chinese are a way more aggressive and competitive than S. ones.

There's a considerable genetical difference between N. chinese and S. chinese
The picture below comes from a Japanese textbook.

(IMG:http://www3.mahoroba.ne.jp/~npa/narayaku/image/dna_map.jpg)
She's a taiwanese, at least that's what she claims to be.

people make it like theyre an entirely different ethnicity (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/sure.gif)
most of their differences come from different geogrphaic location therefore over a many yrs
ethnically, they're the same if you dont count the minor intermixing amongst some locals (but not large enough to cause a dent in the population's racial makeup)

[jason76]

Oh, I'm not going to read all that...

[Kstragist]

Oh, I'm not going to read all that...

Just read my post, which is the only one worth reading here anyways.
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D
why doesn't smiley faces appear on my post.

This post has been edited by Kstragist: Mar 30 2006, 02:42 PM

[Kstragist]

What a surprise -laugh

Next he'll be saying that Koreans were directly responsible for the Meiji Restoration.

"Honest" bull$hitting requires ignorance of the subject on hand."
The Meiji Restoration is simply too well known for that.

[supapimp]

even the emperor akihito admitted HIMSELF that japanese royalty have orginated from Korean blood!!!
so the japanese people who worshipps and considers deity are actually Korean!


http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_..._31/ai_83513671

http://english.people.com.cn/200112/24/eng...224_87391.shtml

On December 23, 2001, during his annual birthday meeting with reporters, the emperor, in response to a reporter's question, remarked that he felt a "certain kinship with Korea", and went on to explain his feeling as resulting from the fact that the mother of Emperor Kammu (736–806) was a descendant of Korean dynasty King Muryeong of Baekje as documented in Shoku Nihongi. The emperor also noted that Koreans who migrated to Japan in ancient times introduced important aspects of culture and technology to the country

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akihito

[Takashi]

even the emperor akihito admitted HIMSELF that japanese royalty have orginated from Korean blood!!!
so the japanese people who worshipps and considers deity are actually Korean!

On December 23, 2001, during his annual birthday meeting with reporters, the emperor, in response to a reporter's question, remarked that he felt a "certain kinship with Korea", and went on to explain his feeling as resulting from the fact that the mother of Emperor Kammu (736–806) was a descendant of Korean dynasty King Muryeong of Baekje as documented in Shoku Nihongi. The emperor also noted that Koreans who migrated to Japan in ancient times introduced important aspects of culture and technology to the country

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akihito

cant be bothered to read the other links but that would still only make emperor kammu half korean not full (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_confused.gif)
edit: although dont people know about that anyway (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_confused.gif)

This post has been edited by Takashi: Mar 30 2006, 03:34 PM