Why do Hmongs hate ? |
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Why do Hmongs hate ? |
 Apr 5 2006, 11:49 PM
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AF Fan  Group: Members Posts: 53 Joined: 26-October 05  |
I have seen on numerous sites on how Hmongs claim that other minority group hates on them... but instead i have come to a realization that Hmongs hate on others and themselves even more. They help to contribute these sort of feelings because of the ignorance some of us put fourth and portray. How can Hmongs as a whole be victims when America has offer more freedom then any other countries?
...just random thoughts. |
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Apr 6 2006, 12:08 AM
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AF Pro  Group: Members Posts: 1,253 Joined: 23-August 05 From: MERCED then SACRAMENTO |
they want power...they're greedy...i mean...this is base on those who hate...i'm not saying that hmong as a whole group wants power and are greedy...just an amount of them...but yeah...i'll reply some more after much thinking...
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Apr 6 2006, 01:55 AM
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Newbie  Group: Members Posts: 19 Joined: 21-November 05 |
oh.... Some hmong people are greedy... but that goes for all races..
they'd take the first shot at ripping their own kind off. (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_sad.gif) |
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Apr 6 2006, 11:26 AM
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AF Geek  Group: Members Posts: 100 Joined: 20-February 06 From: MN, USA |
QUOTE (distinKt @ Apr 6 2006, 01:55 AM)  oh.... Some hmong people are greedy... but that goes for all races.. they'd take the first shot at ripping their own kind off. (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_sad.gif) That's so true... |
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Apr 6 2006, 02:42 PM
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AF Geek Group: Members Posts: 188 Joined: 23-August 05 From: Lansing Michigan |
hmong people(like me (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/Talktohand.gif) ) has alot of pride i mean alot
thats not a bad thing but our pride gets to us sometimes you know we dont take any insults people threw at us yeah for some reason i think(and im pretty sure every hmong guy thinks) that we are dominate and we are the best race. funny is that we are just some village farmers with no land to claim as ours, we really dont have anything to be proud of compared to other races lol. but we still got pride i guess we hate on others to make ourselfs look better? This post has been edited by darkrillen: Apr 6 2006, 02:43 PM |
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Apr 6 2006, 03:58 PM
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AF Addict  Group: Members Posts: 564 Joined: 29-September 04 |
QUOTE (Illosopher @ Apr 5 2006, 08:49 PM) I have seen on numerous sites on how Hmongs claim that other minority group hates on them... but instead i have come to a realization that Hmongs hate on others and themselves even more. They help to contribute these sort of feelings because of the ignorance some of us put fourth and portray. How can Hmongs as a whole be victims when America has offer more freedom then any other countries? ...just random thoughts. Are you white? If so, I'd prefer it if you called me by my real nationality. I'm AMERICAN now. Got my citizenship a couple of decades ago. However, the mere fact that you're still referring to me as Hmong indicates that you will never accept me as a real American. Which is contrary to what my citizenship certificate says. Who's the hater now? |
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Apr 6 2006, 04:29 PM
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AF Pro Group: Members Posts: 1,253 Joined: 23-August 05 From: MERCED then SACRAMENTO |
QUOTE (distinKt @ Apr 6 2006, 01:55 AM) oh.... Some hmong people are greedy... but that goes for all races.. they'd take the first shot at ripping their own kind off. (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_sad.gif) i would have to agree, BUT i just have to say this...for once can we just focus on the "HMONGS" alone and i really mean ALONE and not say that others are like this and that too? because we all know that that is true...I just realize that every time a topic like this is voiced, we tend to say, "well, other race are like that too, not just us." but for once...focus on the Hmongs alone...what drives US (not literally us us personally but just Hmong as a whole) to be this way? I mean...let's just say that HMONG is A person and tell why HMONG is like this...define HMONG's behavior...I know that hmongs are human beings like the rest of the world that contains human beings, that all behaviors may be the same, BUT...narrow this down to only just the Hmong people... ok...i've done some thinkin...and i have concluded that an amount of Hmong people hate each other and others so much for the main reason of SUPERIORITY; though it be a big or a small feeling of being superior. List all the things that creates hate and all will lead you to superiority (I've listed a four): Respect (ex: gangsters, religion, old folks, kids: attack for respect of others) Fame (ex: gangsters, old folks, kids: attack for fame, to be known by all) Pride (ex: self, religion: attack for protection of pride in certain areas) Greed (ex: money, food: attack for betterment of self) Oh...one more thing...and it is true that some of us hate each other and others very much...but when it comes to us alone...we so hate each other...if we try to attack other races...we dare not to...but if we attack our own race...we dare to with no hesitation... |
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Apr 6 2006, 04:53 PM
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AF Geek Group: Members Posts: 188 Joined: 23-August 05 From: Lansing Michigan |
yeah it gets even more big headed
first asian pride then hmong pride then we even start saying Vue, vang, xiong,blah blah pride pretty soon it'll be me pride This post has been edited by darkrillen: Apr 6 2006, 04:53 PM |
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Apr 6 2006, 05:40 PM
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AF Addict Group: Members Posts: 564 Joined: 29-September 04 |
QUOTE (moryHX @ Apr 6 2006, 01:29 PM) i would have to agree, BUT i just have to say this...for once can we just focus on the "HMONGS" alone and i really mean ALONE and not say that others are like this and that too? because we all know that that is true...I just realize that every time a topic like this is voiced, we tend to say, "well, other race are like that too, not just us." but for once...focus on the Hmongs alone...what drives US (not literally us us personally but just Hmong as a whole) to be this way? I mean...let's just say that HMONG is A person and tell why HMONG is like this...define HMONG's behavior...I know that hmongs are human beings like the rest of the world that contains human beings, that all behaviors may be the same, BUT...narrow this down to only just the Hmong people... ok...i've done some thinkin...and i have concluded that an amount of Hmong people hate each other and others so much for the main reason of SUPERIORITY; though it be a big or a small feeling of being superior. List all the things that creates hate and all will lead you to superiority (I've listed a four): Respect (ex: gangsters, religion, old folks, kids: attack for respect of others) Fame (ex: gangsters, old folks, kids: attack for fame, to be known by all) Pride (ex: self, religion: attack for protection of pride in certain areas) Greed (ex: money, food: attack for betterment of self) Oh...one more thing...and it is true that some of us hate each other and others very much...but when it comes to us alone...we so hate each other...if we try to attack other races...we dare not to...but if we attack our own race...we dare to with no hesitation... Well, based on your limited definition I'm not of Hmong origin since: 1. I don't hate other Hmong people as you describe. 2. I don't see myself as being selfish as you describe. 3. I don't think I'm superior to any other Hmong. But I know that I am of Hmong origion which leads to only one conclusion: you are sadly mistaken and your definition isn't about Hmong but about your own narrow view of others and you are merely mislabeling it as Hmong because you don't have any understanding of what Hmong is. Also, don't take this wrong. I don't hate you for your view. I just feel sad that you have such a bad image ingrained into your head. Perhaps it is too late for you to learn better, but then there's always hope. Till you find your way, I don't hate you, I only pity you. Sorry. |
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Apr 6 2006, 05:54 PM
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AF Pro Group: Members Posts: 1,253 Joined: 23-August 05 From: MERCED then SACRAMENTO |
^ DUDE...re-read what i wrote...did i freakin say "YAX, you want to be superior that's why you are selfish and you hate Hmong people" ??? NO I DID NOT!!! Now... *SIGH* I think koj yuav tsis nkag siab kuv li os...I was just simply stating what SOME Hmong people want (superiority and all things that leads to superiority) that drives them to hate their own self and others...I'm talkin Hmong people as a whole...those that have hatred!!! NOT YOU!!! NOT THOSE THAT HAVE NO HATRED...just the ONES THAT HOLDS HATE WITHIN THEIR HEARTS!!!
and i did not attempt to define what a hmong person is ok...a hmong person can be anything he or she wants to be...and what's the use of defining hmong when all it really is is a species of human beings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????????? wow...i kinda like these fonts...so big...makes emphasis very so easy... This post has been edited by moryHX: Apr 6 2006, 05:56 PM |
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Apr 6 2006, 06:39 PM
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AF Addict Group: Members Posts: 564 Joined: 29-September 04 |
DUH!! Last time I checked, "Hmong people as a whole" included me. Since when did you get to decide who gets excluded.
(IMG:http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a169/Yacks01/emoticons/giant_rolleyes.gif) QUOTE (moryHX @ Apr 6 2006, 02:54 PM) ^ DUDE...re-read what i wrote...did i freakin say "YAX, you want to be superior that's why you are selfish and you hate Hmong people" ??? NO I DID NOT!!! Now... *SIGH* I think koj yuav tsis nkag siab kuv li os...I was just simply stating what SOME Hmong people want (superiority and all things that leads to superiority) that drives them to hate their own self and others...I'm talkin Hmong people as a whole...those that have hatred!!! NOT YOU!!! NOT THOSE THAT HAVE NO HATRED...just the ONES THAT HOLDS HATE WITHIN THEIR HEARTS!!!
and i did not attempt to define what a hmong person is ok...a hmong person can be anything he or she wants to be...and what's the use of defining hmong when all it really is is a species of human beings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????????? wow...i kinda like these fonts...so big...makes emphasis very so easy... |
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Apr 6 2006, 07:32 PM
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AF Addict Group: Members Posts: 885 Joined: 2-December 05 From: Wis |
QUOTE (darkrillen @ Apr 6 2006, 02:42 PM) hmong people(like me (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/Talktohand.gif) ) has alot of pride i mean alot thats not a bad thing but our pride gets to us sometimes you know we dont take any insults people threw at us yeah for some reason i think(and im pretty sure every hmong guy thinks) that we are dominate and we are the best race. funny is that we are just some village farmers with no land to claim as ours, we really dont have anything to be proud of compared to other races lol. but we still got pride i guess we hate on others to make ourselfs look better? i agree with you. because hmong people has been poor ever since human were created, we have alot of hatred toward other ethnicities because they have more than we do. but, of course, we still have more pride than anyone else. |
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Apr 6 2006, 07:36 PM
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AF Geek Group: Members Posts: 262 Joined: 4-December 05 |
QUOTE (herc @ Apr 6 2006, 07:32 PM) i agree with you. because hmong people has been poor ever since human were created, we have alot of hatred toward other ethnicities because they have more than we do. but, of course, we still have more pride than anyone else. oh yeah, than why be so proud of japan??? |
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Apr 6 2006, 07:43 PM
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AF Addict Group: Members Posts: 885 Joined: 2-December 05 From: Wis |
QUOTE (easy_layup @ Apr 6 2006, 07:36 PM) oh yeah, than why be so proud of japan??? you're a fricken idiot. lol. i don't know what to say to you to make you understand. (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/embarassedlaugh.gif) 2 i'm just fascinated by the japanese language, culture, entertainment and people and that makes you think i'm a a japanese wannabe...... god damn, you're and idiot! (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/embarassedlaugh.gif) i thought you would understand by now..... but looks like i need to do more explaining. |
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Apr 6 2006, 07:54 PM
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AF Pro Group: Members Posts: 1,253 Joined: 23-August 05 From: MERCED then SACRAMENTO |
QUOTE (Yax @ Apr 6 2006, 06:39 PM) DUH!! Last time I checked, "Hmong people as a whole" included me. Since when did you get to decide who gets excluded. (IMG:http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a169/Yacks01/emoticons/giant_rolleyes.gif) ok...so i said this, "(not literally us us personally but just Hmong as a whole)"...are you refering to that part, the part where i underlined? and if you are you've quoted me wrong...i did not say, "Hmong people as a whole" i said, "Hmong as a whole"! or if you were talking about this, "I'm talkin Hmong people as a whole...those that have hatred." then can you not see that after the "hmong people as a whole" follows "those that have hatred"? And since when did I GET to decide who gets excluded? Since when did you not see and continue reading and understand what I said when I said, “i have concluded that an amount of Hmong people”? AN AMOUNT!!! can't you see that AN AMOUNT is different from AS A WHOLE? And since when did you not see that "those that have hatred" followed after "I'm talkin Hmong people as a whole"? you know what...hais li no xwb tsis tim muaj qab hau there's no point in reasoning with you if you didn't understand my thoughts...and i don't blame you...just as long as i know that i said AN AMOUNT and THOSE THAT HAVE HATRED...it's all good...you are free to think that i'm applying you in my thoughts so be it...i'll let you win...and kav tsij dov koj lub qhov muag...tsis yog tias yuav mob kuv lub... This post has been edited by moryHX: Apr 6 2006, 07:57 PM |
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Apr 6 2006, 10:02 PM
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AF Fan Group: Members Posts: 53 Joined: 26-October 05 |
QUOTE (Yax @ Apr 6 2006, 03:58 PM) Are you white? If so, I'd prefer it if you called me by my real nationality. I'm AMERICAN now. Got my citizenship a couple of decades ago. However, the mere fact that you're still referring to me as Hmong indicates that you will never accept me as a real American. Which is contrary to what my citizenship certificate says. Who's the hater now? EXCUSE ME? dumb and retarded... You rather be called an American instead of Hmong... okay buddy... *This is exactly what i mean by IGNORANT... thanks for proving my point. This post has been edited by Illosopher: Apr 6 2006, 10:09 PM |
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Apr 7 2006, 01:31 AM
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AF Pro Group: Members Posts: 1,253 Joined: 23-August 05 From: MERCED then SACRAMENTO |
QUOTE (Illosopher @ Apr 6 2006, 10:02 PM) EXCUSE ME? dumb and retarded... You rather be called an American instead of Hmong... okay buddy... *This is exactly what i mean by IGNORANT... thanks for proving my point. that's right...i forgot to use this against him (i probably shouldn't anyways...hmm)...such a contradiction by the way...i mean...to what he replied back to my thoughts...but whatever... |
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Apr 7 2006, 04:50 AM
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AF Fan Group: Members Posts: 87 Joined: 6-January 06 |
Hmong aren't the only ones hating....everybody hates...
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Apr 11 2006, 07:18 PM
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AF Fan Group: Validating Posts: 59 Joined: 27-August 05 |
QUOTE (TENCHI123 @ Apr 7 2006, 04:50 AM) Hmong aren't the only ones hating....everybody hates... True that. Instead of asking, "why do Hmong hate?", ask, "Why do everyone hate?" |
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Apr 11 2006, 10:43 PM
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AF Fan Group: Members Posts: 53 Joined: 26-October 05 |
QUOTE (red_eyes @ Apr 11 2006, 07:18 PM) True that. Instead of asking, "why do Hmong hate?", ask, "Why do everyone hate?" Because this is a Hmong forum and i'm talking about HMONGS ... if i would to ask how come Lions are undomesticated then i would be wrong to not address the same question towards Tigers ..and so on.. umm.. this is a baseless arguement ...stick to topic... shut up.. This post has been edited by Illosopher: Apr 14 2006, 01:53 AM |
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